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Coming from SOMA Labs The Ether
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RickKleffel
I noticed a bit on the SOMA Facebook page; in the carousel of product photos, a black space would appear with the words THE ETHER COMING SOON...sounded like a new product, so I asked.... They confirmed that they are on a path like no other!

Rick Kleffel‎ to SOMA Laboratory

OK, ladies and gents, in the world of SOMA, what pray tell, is "THE ETHER"? And more importantly, when do you start the queue?

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SOMA Laboratory

SOMA Laboratory Ether - special device to hear magnetic fields around, from Hz to GHz and working not only some cm to the magnetic field but can be used in the city for example ( we have made amazing tests in subway during travel, or in the bus on the street, where the lamps across the street made the melody... really interesting for field recording/ sampling/looping).

If you know maybe Elektrosluch or Elektrousi, this is the direction but more advanced... the production will start very soon, hope the first Ethers will be available in... September?

Rick Kleffel I just sent my email to get in the queue! Back in the day, used to love cell phone scanning. You would alas, likely believe the things I heard people szy during the LA riots of 91, was it?

Rick Kleffel
Rick Kleffel I just realized that this is the first commercially available PKMeter!

SOMA Laboratory
SOMA Laboratory do you remember? a few years ago a lot of people in various parts of the world left their homes and ran around the streets looking for Pokemon. I hope that soon we will see a lot of people looking for magnetic fields in the strangest places, not only musicians, but people interested in sounds, recording in the field, creating their music without being a musician, but certainly not only echoes of sounds from the surrounding world, but also the creator...
meska
hmmm..... hyper

like this idea need too see more !
Synth Con Meo
Sounds very interesting. Kind of like a cousin of some sort to the Midisprout. I wonder what the price is going to be?
Easterner
On a small scale you can use an induction coil microphone (similar to a guitar pickup) to pick up electromagnetic fields, it’s great to record this as it picks up what’s emanating from power supplies, tv screens, telephones, hard drives, etc for clicks glitchy noisy microbeats and drones.

The induction coil mic needs to be pretty close to pick these up though! I wonder to what extent the Soma project allows you to pick up a wider spectrum and over some distance?
RickKleffel


Priezor is an open-source passive magnetic antenna for electromagnetic listening. It is very sensitive and capable of capturing faint atmospheric events in VLF radio bands. Compared to regular Elektrosluch, it is less directional and focused, and therefore more useful in recording ambient electromagnetic fields, where the overall "sound of the place" is desired.

Perhaps like this...?
starthief
Easterner wrote:
On a small scale you can use an induction coil microphone (similar to a guitar pickup) to pick up electromagnetic fields, it’s great to record this as it picks up what’s emanating from power supplies, tv screens, telephones, hard drives, etc for clicks glitchy noisy microbeats and drones.

The induction coil mic needs to be pretty close to pick these up though! I wonder to what extent the Soma project allows you to pick up a wider spectrum and over some distance?


Magnetic field strength has a pretty wide dynamic range and you won't really know until you stick a transducer in it. So anything sensitive better have some sort of limiter / gain control.

I've got a really basic induction coil "mic" and it mostly needs a huge gain boost, but close to some devices it does put out a pretty strong signal which falls off rapidly with distance.
Pugilistas
Vlad has definitely been touched by the Infinite!

Another really interesting approach, can't wait to hear more about it.
phisynth
it's available now :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdiGn0LPMPs
https://somasynths.com/ether/
Tumulishroomaroom
Really cool; quite tempted to get one.
EPTC
So immediately intrigued and excited about this. Sent in a quick yes to get on the list.
tau_seti
Disappointing.

I don't see how this isn't a copy of the elektrosluch or preizor. Just watch the video at Soma. It's the same thing! Jonas Gruška does great work and to present this as someone new, I just don't know …

https://store.lom.audio/products/elektrosluch-3?variant=4542168268832
EPTC
tau_seti wrote:
I don't see how this isn't a copy of the elektrosluch or preizor.


Damn - That stuff looks cool as hell, too! - FWIW, Vlad mentioned he's been working on his design for six years. Maybe like minds detect electro transmitting sound alike?
tau_seti
EPTC wrote:
Vlad mentioned he's been working on his design for six years. Maybe like minds detect electro transmitting sound alike?


Elektrosluch was available in 2012, maybe earlier. It's as far as the Wayback Machine went for me.
EPTC
Ah - cool - I appreciate that. I like the look of both!

Perhaps this is still a unique design, though. From SOMA's description:

Quote:
ETHER has both magnetic and electric components for sensing radiation. For the magnetic component, it has a built-in magnetic antenna, like the ones used in old long-wave radios. The antenna has maximum sensitivity on ETHER’s axis. By changing the orientation, angle and position of ETHER, you will change the sound. For the electric component, it has antennas printed on the PCB and the special input pin placed on the anterior surface.


Certainly doesn't look cosmetically similar in terms of housing.
tau_seti
Yes, interesting although it really seemed the same on the video.
arseniqua
Vlad actually replied about comparison to Electrosluch:

Quote:
ETHER is not just an inductive sniffer as some projects that you can easily find in the net. A simple low-frequency inductive sniffer will be silent in most places that full of sounds in the video. Such devices have to be placed close to the emitting device and will not work on a street. Such devices have just a coil and a low-frequency amplifier. In compare, ETHER has the regenerating circuit and the demodulator, so it's a real radio waves receiver, not just an amplifier of low-frequency magnetic fields. However, ETHER can perceive the low-frequency magnetic fields as well. But, honestly, if you would like to scan devices in close proximity (0-20 centimetres), such devices as Elektrosluch will work cleaner and more focused due to the narrow bend and lower sensitivity. ETHER designed to be first of all a part of your walks in a city and may sound even in a forest or a seashore (I have such experience). While Elektrosluch designed first of all for using over a table full of gear. Also, ETHER can perceive the electric component of the radiation as well, captures radiation that is far much above the audio range and much more sensitive. In this way, it has different design, functions and implementation than a simple inductive sniffer though in some cases their functions crossed.
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Panason
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can perceive the electric component of the radiation as well, captures radiation that is far much above the audio range and much more sensitive.


hmmm.....
wvrm
Intriguing! I already have a LOM Priezor, will be interesting to compare the two.
calaveras
I've always used one of those induction mics for recording phone conversations. Or when I was younger and smarter, I jury rigged an antenna with an adjustable load. That was a looong time ago so I do not recall the details. I was into pirate radio for a while and was researching how to make a less obvious, less directional antenna so the FCC couldn't bust me as easily. (I never got that part figured out) But I did kind of connect the dots to make a small antenna which could be tuned quite broadly.

You can also just wrap wire around nearly anything and make an inductor. To me the fun part of experimental music/sound is getting your hands dirty building stuff. But I suppose companies like Crank Sturgeon are there for a reason.
Infinity Curve
tau_seti wrote:
Disappointing.

I don't see how this isn't a copy of the elektrosluch or preizor. Just watch the video at Soma. It's the same thing! Jonas Gruška does great work and to present this as someone new, I just don't know …

https://store.lom.audio/products/elektrosluch-3?variant=4542168268832


also the Micro Research Detektor thumbs up

I have the Detektor already, but I just emailed Soma about one of these, looks and sounds really promising thumbs up
Unborn Gore
This thing looks about as disappointing as Monica Bellucci.
beelsebub
wvrm wrote:
Intriguing! I already have a LOM Priezor, will be interesting to compare the two.


I'm also interested how these differ from each other.

Is the Priezor useless without an expensive preamp you have to carry around to boost the signal? Mainly I was thinking about recording power transformers, power lines and such.

Also the tip in ETHER which can make objects external antennas seems like an interesting feature.
wvrm
beelsebub wrote:
Is the Priezor useless without an expensive preamp you have to carry around to boost the signal? Mainly I was thinking about recording power transformers, power lines and such.


You need a preamp to use the Priezor while the Ether can be used stand-alone. Better quality preamp naturally means lower noise floor and thus better results, but a Zoom, Olympus, Sony etc. handheld recorder should be fine.
kinkycables
Sounds awesome. Just in time for the Ghostbusters reboot!
motorhead412
this is def going on my list of crap to buy. eager to see what i can pick up with this in the remote wilderness
Jondue
Just got an email from Soma saying that the first batch is sold out, and that batch two is in production.

thumbs up
EPTC
I'm looking so forward to this thing I had to use some of the samples from the downloadable ETHER SONG that Soma uploaded. In the ending half, you'll hear the "Drum" track and a little of the "Bass" track in this new Disquiet piece:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/eptc/disquiet0373[/s]
(credited in description)
BogartDestructo
I'm seriously considering picking one of these up. Might even cancel my Spotify sub and just listen to this whenever i'm out and about hihi
Feinstrom
Yes, ETHER seems to have some things in common with the Elektrosluch - I'm looking forward to finding out any differences/improvements.
My primary use will be live performances. With Elektrosluch (which I absolutely love!) I have experienced loud humming noises from PSUs (of course!); maybe the ETHER will handle that balance a bit smoother (haven't had a chance to test it yet).

Disclaimer: I have recently become acquainted with SOMA, so don't trust me in anything I say.
There won't be any shady advertising from me, though, promise...

Cheers,
Bert
oneoff
I’m totally in love with this project from SOMA labs. Unfortunately I can’t order (or wait) for a unit ATM.
So I started playing around with some different RF sensing circuits, having some very interesting results!
First I’ve built an RF sensing device based on 2 germanium diodes. Works on 9V battery.
It takes one CA3140 opamp (might work with a modern single rail opamp like the TLC271 or272 for dual...) but I’ve read somewhere that the CA3140 has the right Input impedance for this type of antenna amplification.
The output works ok for headphones-I’ve built it in stereo, each channel has its own slightly different antenna.
The antenna in this circuit is a key element and you can totally sense anything from low Frequency stuff like AC power to Am/Fm radio, to WiFi and some blips and clicking noises from electronic devices or nearby phones... it supposed to sense anything between few hertz to a couple of Giga hertz.
As for the antenna- experiment with different coils, long wires and whip antennas. Very sensitive and effective circuit for what it is, and I’m sure it can be improved in many ways..


Another device I’m experimenting with, is a relatively cheap Chinese, pre built RF sensing circuit, Based on the AD8317 IC. This chip can sense anything between 1mhZ to 10GhZ and when connected to an amplifier it can give some incredible Results, although I’m getting some high pitch sound indoors, which I can’t eliminate yet...
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fu lk%2Fitm%2F173547125492

The last device I’m currently experimenting with is a natural VLF radio receiver based on this interesting project - Stephen P. McGreevy's BBB-4 :
http://www.auroralchorus.com/bbb4rx3.htm
The description and schematics are all in the link.

I’m not saying that anything here is the same as the ETHER project. I just don’t know. I got the feeling it’s much more then these, with 2 different antennas inside, a solid output and probably a nice preamp section etc.
I’m pretty sure that I’m going to buy one from SOMA when they’ll be available in the future. Meanwhile I’m just having a little fun here:)
EPTC
Was fortunate/deeply thankful to make the initial cut on the first batch. Mine arrived from Russia this morning. What a delight!

Here's two quick videos

Snake charming loop from a wall wired with Ethernet
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu4DgeaFXIQ/

Fluorescent light and a Sony Tapecorder
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu4EmFCFahz/
EPTC
Just got back from an hour with this thing out downtown in Austin. Man! Here's an hour of raw audio:

[s]https://soundcloud.com/eptc/soma-ether[/s]
Richard deHove
V2 preorders now being shipped
Kingnimrod
what's up with production on these? I have a preorder active since late March through Perfect Circuit and not seeing them available anywhere...
dumbledog
I tried to buy one direct from Soma a month or two back, but had to back out because Paypal won't let me send money to Russia. I told them I'd just get one when it shows up stateside and they replied that it could be several months before PCA et al have them.
david_r
I ordered directly from Soma June 22nd and it arrived to California USA this week so it all took a little under a month.

The version I have looks a little different from the picture on the website. There's 2 pots and 2 'antennas'. I'm guessing each pot is the volume for each antenna? Haven't tested yet, need to go get batteries!!
david_r
david_r wrote:
I ordered directly from Soma June 22nd and it arrived to California USA this week so it all took a little under a month.

The version I have looks a little different from the picture on the website. There's 2 pots and 2 'antennas'. I'm guessing each pot is the volume for each antenna? Haven't tested yet, need to go get batteries!!


Found this:


Kingnimrod
any idea what's up with these? Did Soma ship to PC yet?
Kennymester
dumbledog wrote:
I tried to buy one direct from Soma a month or two back, but had to back out because Paypal won't let me send money to Russia. I told them I'd just get one when it shows up stateside and they replied that it could be several months before PCA et al have them.


I had the same issue since my regular PP account is a business account. I ended up making another one that wasn't and I was able to pay.

After I ordered in April I got it within a couple of weeks. From what I heard last there are so many direct orders that they won't be shipping to dealers for a while yet.
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