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Author Smallest MU sequencer
Voltage_Controller
I DIY'd a Voice of Saturn sequencer when I first got my modest MU system because I really wanted a seq and the price was right, and its small. I now mostly use a Keystep and VoS is just taking up space. But I can't help but want an integrated sequencer and I have outgrown the VoS. Analog Craftsman has the single space RLS (which would be cool if I had a quantizer).

What are the other small sequencer options in MU?
fac
Dotcom Q179 Envelope++ can be used as a 4-stage sequencer. You can link multiple Q179s for more stages.

https://synthesizers.com/q179.html

There is also the STG Sequencing Suite, which is a set of modules that work together so you can build your own sequencers. You can use the Voltage Store and Trigger Store as standalone modules, but you will need to drive them from an external clock. Shouldn't be a problem to drive them from your Keystep or VoS sequencer.

http://www.stgsoundlabs.com/

Neither of those have built-in quantizers, so it's probably best to allocate another MU space for a quantizer bank.

Now, if you're looking for unconventional sequencers, I like to program generative algorithms in my Ardcores. For example, I have made an Euclidean generator and a S&H'ed VC LFO. Both with quantized output. If you know a bit of C programming, you can do lots of stuff with an Ardcore.
JohnLRice
A 1 MU Hexinverter sympleSEQ if you can find one? With the knobs so small it was best used with a quantizer though if you wanted specific notes.
Legacy page:
http://www.hexinverter.net/sympleseq-univ/
If you are up for DIY Synthube has PCBs and ReSynthesis has panels: thumbs up
http://synthcube.com/cart/makers/hexinverter-net/hexinverter-sympleseq
http://www.resynthesis.shop/epages/zuunneamm4zd.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/ Shops/zuunneamm4zd/Products/REMU-HEX-SS1BK

Next might be a STG Voltage Mini-Store plus Trigger Mini-Store modules?
http://www.stgsoundlabs.com/products/voltage_ministore_mu.htm
http://www.stgsoundlabs.com/products/trigger_ministore_mu.htm

Or maybe a Encore Electronics UEG? (Universal Event Generator) The 2 MU version seems to have been discontinued
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_ueg3.html
but you can still order the 2U MOTM version new:
http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_ueg1.html
Dave Peck
Simpleseq.

https://www.modulargrid.net/d/resynthesis-sympleseq

And the 2U-wide Universal Event Generator from Encore Electronics can act as a simple 8-step sequencer (it can do a whole lot more than that, too).

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_ueg3.html
JohnLRice
Oh yeah, and a Modcan 72B Touch Sequencer if you can find one?
Faustgeist
So want one. MY ASS IS BLEEDING

JohnLRice wrote:
Oh yeah, and a Modcan 72B Touch Sequencer if you can find one?
Voltage_Controller
Thanks all - I am leaning toward DIYing a simpleSeq.
anomie
I'm also a big fan of the UEG as a simple sequencer, and as Dave says, it can do a whoooole lot more too. But you'll need a quantiser if you want to use it for accurately pitched stuff and you don't want to spend forever getting the levels right
alternating.bit
My demo of the UEG. Good stuff.

DrReverendSeance
alternating.bit inspiring demo of the UEG - I was wondering about then possibilities of that module.
josaka
as far as I can see.. none of the MU options for price point/features are really worthwhile.. they cant compete with say.. a korg sq-1 or even beatstep..
alternating.bit
josaka wrote:
as far as I can see.. none of the MU options for price point/features are really worthwhile..


Anyone entering the world of MU should realize that its not about cost efficiency.
fac
josaka wrote:
as far as I can see.. none of the MU options for price point/features are really worthwhile.. they cant compete with say.. a korg sq-1 or even beatstep..


I disagree. Every sequencer has different features that can be exploited. The UEG can be used as envelope, LFO or sequencer, and you can modulate all the time lengths. The dotcom Q179 has several uses and can also be modulated. The SympleSeq can also be used as sequencer or envelope (in "one-shot" mode). All of these have an output to signal the end of the sequence/loop so that they can be linked to other sequences or you can use that output to sync an LFO or something.

I have a Beatstep and I like it a lot, although I use mostly with software, not with my modulars. It's economic but sturdy, has internal quantization with user-definable scales, integrated clock division, 16-steps (while many modular sequencers have only 8), and various playing modes (reverse, random, etc) that you don't find in "small" modular sequences. But (two big buts)... (1) it doesn't have clock input or output so there is no way to sync it to another analog sequencer, and (2) the knobs are encoders so you don't have a visual feedback of their values. The Korg SQ-1 doesn't seem to have these shortcomings but I hate those tiny knobs (I have a monotron and a Volca Beats, so i know) - I can't imagine trying to reach a specific note with those knobs, even with quantizing. So yeah, they are good tools for the price, but they are also limited in some regards.
josaka
not saying they dont have uses .. but an sq-1 is 80£ ..its a fully featured 16 step seq +2 cv and gate the encore is not exactly a fully featured seq and cost £300+ it does nice things.. but like all the others .. for the money I dont see it..
josaka
alternating.bit wrote:
josaka wrote:
as far as I can see.. none of the MU options for price point/features are really worthwhile..


Anyone entering the world of MU should realize that its not about cost efficiency.


true .. but sequencers dont have to be in the system..
alternating.bit
josaka wrote:
true .. but sequencers dont have to be in the system..


Nor does anything else? It's all how you want to build stuff. To me sequencers were one of the first things that attracted me to modular.

josaka wrote:
but an sq-1 is 80£ ..its a fully featured 16 step seq +2 cv and gate the encore is not exactly a fully featured seq and cost £300+ it does nice things.. but like all the others .. for the money I dont see it..


For the money you can buy a DAW and a laptop and be done with it. Full music production. Doesn't mean that's the way I want to go.
josaka
the whole point of 5u is flexibilty fun + the sound.. you need certain modules to make/control sound in a modular.. A seq is not one..
I defend the right of anyone to buy what they want put it where they want
because I certainly do..
there are just better value/featured options in a external hardware seq over a 5u one.. as we know its one of the most expensive formats!!
knock yourself out if you want a built in seq ..personally I would rather buy another funky soundsource and have a better featured external sequencer.. the best of both worlds for less money.. smile

I have one built in seq in my set up.. but.. I dont use it as a seq in the standard sense.. smile

Ranxerox
I don't use my MU UEG enough. It's not the module's fault, it's mine... Real life gets in the way!

I'm with alternating bit, modular isn't about 'need', nor is making music (if you're a rich westerner). It's an indulgence, pure and simple.
Faustgeist
I, for one, love sequencers.

A lot of that due to my interest in Berlin style Music. I also like to keep the greater 'instrument' in one box: 5u for 5u / euro for euro.

I don't own a keyboard, a DAW, or midi devise in any way. And I don't feel limited limited, yet . .

I am, however, slowly opening my eyes to stand alone devises. Lets face facts, there is a lot of cool shit out there - no matter what your interests. twisted
alternating.bit
Ranxerox wrote:
I'm with alternating bit, modular isn't about 'need', nor is making music (if you're a rich westerner). It's an indulgence, pure and simple.


Though I'm glad you agreed with me, I hope you're not saying that modular is not for making music (??). I use mine all the time for published works.
Perhaps I misunderstood and you're saying that making music isn't a "need" in itself?
josaka
Faustgeist wrote:
I, for one, love sequencers.

A lot of that due to my interest in Berlin style Music. I also like to keep the greater 'instrument' in one box: 5u for 5u / euro for euro.

it is that style of music.. 16ths music is the 5u seq strongest reason to live. nanners smile

Faustgeist wrote:

I don't own a keyboard, a DAW, or midi devise in any way. And I don't feel limited limited, yet . .

I am, however, slowly opening my eyes to stand alone devises. Lets face facts, there is a lot of cool shit out there - no matter what your interests. twisted

yep.. there is some great stuff out there.. !
if you have a midi input the ZAQuencer is a great option.. the ratcheting/control is hard to match.. Rockin' Banana! w00t
Voltage_Controller
This is interesting. I have 2 stand alone sequencers, and one MU sequencer (Synthcube VoS). The stand alone (keystep) is far superior in every way (for me - quantized, randomization, customizable scales, playability) But I find myself using the the VoS just as often because of patch flow. I can't explain it, really. The argument for stand alone sequencer is sound - I guess I just want the option of having everything "in the box."

Dammit Rimas that UEG is very compelling. Will that run on a dotcom power supply?

I am still torn. I know I am tired of the VoS though and want to replace it with something. I have a small space (22) system and I like that size so modules fight for the right to be in there. Was going to do a simpleSEQ which would give my another 1U slot to play but the UEG is very attractive.

Not sure what to do at this point but still thinking. Thanks again for the ideas.
bandwidth
I use a Korg SQ-1 with my dotcom system all the time. For me, it is a great low-cost cv-to-midi converter driving my antique Alesis SR-16 drum machine.
Dave Peck
Voltage_Controller wrote:


Dammit Rimas that UEG is very compelling. Will that run on a dotcom power supply?



You can get it in either 5U as seen in AltBits demo or you can get it in MU format (if Tony is making them). You can also get it in Euro format.

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_ueg3.html

and

http://www.encoreelectronics.com/cont_ueg2.html

I have two in 5U format. This is fun!
JohnLRice
Dave Peck wrote:
Voltage_Controller wrote:


Dammit Rimas that UEG is very compelling. Will that run on a dotcom power supply?



You can get it in either 5U as seen in AltBits demo or you can get it in MU format (if Tony is making them).
It seems that the DotCom version hasn't been available for years, not sure why? seriously, i just don't get it

Voltage_Controller, if you have a DotCom case that can handle a MOTM format module (typically wooden mounting rails and you don't mind some gaps between the sides etc) you could just get the MOTM version since making a power adapter cable is relatively cheap and easy. Take a look at these threads:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6598
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16488
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