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Xy controller for Ableton
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Moon Indigo
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Two questions, both about xy/Ableton


1. What are the options for an xy controller for controlling Ableton devices? It would have been nice if push had one of these. Is there anything for an iPhone? (I don’t have an iPad).

Any thoughts welcome. I’d like to map multiple parameters to x and y and slide around.

2. Does anyone know of a M4L or other decide that allows modulation of xy? Like the cool 3D modulator in Aalto. It would be cool to set up some crazy xy modulation, figure 8’s, etc.

Thanks!
listentoaheartbeat
There is a XY Pad device that comes with Live. It's under Max Audio Effect in the Max for Live category.

If you Google "max for live xy control" there are more options, including a number of cool devices published on maxforlive.com. This one looks interesting:

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/2004/m4l-xy-circle-control

Just map the X and Y coordinates of these devices to a XY controller. Touch OSC or Lemur on iOS are ideal, but obviously any MIDI controller with a two-dimensional control will do.
Moon Indigo
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
There is a XY Pad device that comes with Live. It's under Max Audio Effect in the Max for Live category.

If you Google "max for live xy control" there are more options, including a number of cool devices published on maxforlive.com. This one looks interesting:

http://www.maxforlive.com/library/device/2004/m4l-xy-circle-control

Just map the X and Y coordinates of these devices to a XY controller. Touch OSC or Lemur on iOS are ideal, but obviously any MIDI controller with a two-dimensional control will do.


Great, thanks, that all makes sense.
ersatzplanet
A more expensive route would be a CV to MIDI CC converter and a Joystick. The advantages are that you have more than 2 CV inputs to apply to Ableton (16 on the Doepfer one, 10 on the ADDAC one for example), and of course you also can apply the MIDI CC commands to any VST or virtual synth that can accept CC commands.
listentoaheartbeat
ersatzplanet wrote:
A more expensive route would be a CV to MIDI CC converter and a Joystick. The advantages are that you have more than 2 CV inputs to apply to Ableton (16 on the Doepfer one, 10 on the ADDAC one for example), and of course you also can apply the MIDI CC commands to any VST or virtual synth that can accept CC commands.


For an analog source (e.g. CV Joystick) I'd recommend using a DC coupled converter. The signals can be directly applied in a little M4L patch that gives high resolution XY control.
ersatzplanet
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
For an analog source (e.g. CV Joystick) I'd recommend using a DC coupled converter. The signals can be directly applied in a little M4L patch that gives high resolution XY control.


If you make or get your own converter and have a way to feed the data to Max you would be golden. You could break away from the 128 step and bandwidth limitations of MIDI. Im sure there are many people in the Max art community that have made special rigs just like this for performance purposes.
listentoaheartbeat
ersatzplanet wrote:
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
For an analog source (e.g. CV Joystick) I'd recommend using a DC coupled converter. The signals can be directly applied in a little M4L patch that gives high resolution XY control.


If you make or get your own converter and have a way to feed the data to Max you would be golden. You could break away from the 128 step and bandwidth limitations of MIDI. Im sure there are many people in the Max art community that have made special rigs just like this for performance purposes.


You can use any DC coupled ADC for this and feed the signals directly into your Max patch. Just take any of the existing XY control patches and connect the inputs carrying the Joystick signals to the X and Y controls. Some scaling may be required either on the analog side or in Max, but that’s it.
pottering
Max for Cats Gratis Hits has a simple but nice XY pad too, records gestures as well (transport has to be playing for "playback").

https://www.ableton.com/en/packs/gratis-hits/
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