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Post by Bricks » Sat Oct 02, 2010 10:50 pm

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Post by JohnLRice » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:21 pm

Waz wrote:Is there an e340 kit? I'm kinda late to this party...
Premade circuit boards are available from Synth Tech and then you have to come up with a panel, jacks, pots, switches and knobs etc and put it all together. :party: :hyper:

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Post by JohnLRice » Sat Oct 02, 2010 11:22 pm

Neutron7 wrote:Its working! (except no bonus switches installed yet)
Great job on the build! :party:

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Post by Waz » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:04 am

JohnLRice wrote:
Waz wrote:Is there an e340 kit? I'm kinda late to this party...
Premade circuit boards are available from Synth Tech and then you have to come up with a panel, jacks, pots, switches and knobs etc and put it all together. :party: :hyper:
Is it the same price as the e350?

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Post by JohnLRice » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:39 am

Waz wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
Waz wrote:Is there an e340 kit? I'm kinda late to this party...
Premade circuit boards are available from Synth Tech and then you have to come up with a panel, jacks, pots, switches and knobs etc and put it all together. :party: :hyper:
Is it the same price as the e350?
:doh: Sorry! :roll: Please ignore the old man on the internet! I was getting the numbers confused. There hasn't been a E340 kit announced yet. :deadbanana:

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Post by decaying.sine » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:46 am

All this gossip provoked an email to Paul about the e340 kit. I thought I missed it. Thanks for nothing John. :waah:
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Post by JohnLRice » Sun Oct 03, 2010 1:54 am

decaying.sine wrote:All this gossip provoked an email to Paul about the e340 kit. I thought I missed it. Thanks for nothing John. :waah:
I am a dumb bastard! :cry:

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Post by fluxmonkey » Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:53 am

Waz wrote:Is there an e340 kit? I'm kinda late to this party...
this question was asked when the 350 semi-kit was announced. at that time, paul posted "d) if I sell 10 of these kits for the E350 I will do a E340 version. So far I have sold 2." i'm sure he's sold more than 2 at this point, since i have since bought one....
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Post by essex sound lab » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:49 am

fluxmonkey wrote: this question was asked when the 350 semi-kit was announced. at that time, paul posted "d) if I sell 10 of these kits for the E350 I will do a E340 version. So far I have sold 2." i'm sure he's sold more than 2 at this point, since i have since bought one....
If conversion from the RR Edition to the DIY kit counts, there may but up to 10 more right there.

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Post by Neutron7 » Sun Oct 03, 2010 12:00 pm

I would be up for an e340 board if it was available

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Post by pugix » Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:51 pm

Neutron7 wrote:I would be up for an e340 board if it was available
+1 :tu:

My e350 DIY kit is just waiting for the (in the mail) FPE panel. I'm stuffing mine into 1U. I'd try the same with an e340 kit. 8_)
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Post by Waz » Sun Oct 03, 2010 11:45 pm

fluxmonkey wrote:
Waz wrote:Is there an e340 kit? I'm kinda late to this party...
this question was asked when the 350 semi-kit was announced. at that time, paul posted "d) if I sell 10 of these kits for the E350 I will do a E340 version. So far I have sold 2." i'm sure he's sold more than 2 at this point, since i have since bought one....
I'm buying an e350 kit as soon as I sell my Wii. I'm kind of low on cash at the moment.

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Post by paults » Mon Oct 04, 2010 12:05 am

a) yes, I have sold more than 10 E350 DIY kits

b) however, it will be a while for E340 versions. I have to finish up the E560, the MOTM backlog and get the 5U Cloud Generator (MOTM-520) rolling. I also have large purchase orders still in place for the "full up" E340/E350 modules from my distributors.

I am waiting for mounting hardware to arrive this week so I can ship the rest of the E350 DIYs and RR editions. I have 3 "unspoken for" DIY sets available for shipment. Send PayPal ($250/$270 USA/foreign) to synth1@airmail.net if interested.

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Post by decaying.sine » Mon Oct 04, 2010 4:49 pm

Got my two e350 kits today (and 2.0 order). Thanks Paul.
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Post by paults » Mon Oct 04, 2010 9:45 pm

More E350 kits shipping Wednesday when the hardware arrives. Still have 2 available to ship then :goo:

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Post by money bags » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:00 am

Still have 2 available to ship then
as in no more after that?

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Post by paults » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:38 am

As in these are all ready to go. If I sell these, I can sell more but it might be 3-4 weeks later. Got to get the E560 moved into production, ship existing E340/E350 orders to distribution.

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Post by wavehead » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:54 pm

Any possibility we might see a kit for the E560?

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Post by paults » Tue Oct 05, 2010 5:27 pm

Not anytime soon.

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Post by Waz » Wed Oct 06, 2010 12:44 am

I noticed in the instructions that the kit come uncalibrated. Are there instructions for calibration?

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Also you wouldn't happen to have a mouser part number for the POT's you use on the assembled modules? I'd really like this DIY experience to go as smoothly as possible and would like something that fits (with no fabrication or workarounds) into the PCB.

Sorry for the bombardment of questions. I'm just trying to get all of my ducks in a row.
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Post by paults » Wed Oct 06, 2010 8:27 am

a) calibration is just playing 1 octave apart on a keyboard w/MIDI to CV and turning to taste. It will be *very close* to the center of rotation (it's a 25-turn pot, so go to one end of travel and then count to 13 turns).

b) the pots I use are custom ordered from BI Technologies. I have to buy them in sets of 480pcs.

The intent of the DIY kit is not to duplicate the E350 as I build it but for you to use your own panel/pots/switches/knobs.

Having said that, there is nothing "special" about the pots I use, any linear 50K or 100K pot will work fine.

If you are set on using them, PM me for a price quote.

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Post by sduck » Wed Oct 06, 2010 10:44 am

Since I just ordered one of these kits, it was time to throw together a panel design. I mentioned earlier about wanting to do this in a 1U panel, but upon further consideration decided to go with a 2U one, so I could fit the extra switches in. And I was impressed enough with the demos I've heard that I think this one is worthy of taking up 2U in my cramped system.

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(edit - slightly modified from previously posted version)(second edit - I've changed this one a LOT and ordered it. It now has 3 new cv attenuator knobs)

Print quality from the mac version of FPE isn't great - it'll look a lot better in real life. This is a jpeg extracted from a pdf print, kind of roundabout but it works. I can send the .fpd file to anyone interested - I'll put it on the modularsynthpanels yahoo group once I build it and make sure it all works (it should).

Should note that this version is with all the pots and switches connected with flying wires - I've made no attempt to line up anything with the pcb mounted stuff.

The pot holes are sized for alpha pots. All the stuff that looks like white infill is actually no infill - plain etched aluminum. Total cost for one of these is about 82$ - but if I could round up 4 more of you who want one of these the price could be knocked down to 74$ - PM me if interested - but there probably won't be 4 other of you who actually like my design "considerations".
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Post by Waz » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:06 pm

I planned on using the same layout, but with different knobs jacks and faceplate. My concern with the POTs was it lining up correctly if I used PCB mount pots like these ones from smallbear http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=692

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Post by Neutron7 » Wed Oct 06, 2010 3:30 pm

Note for People building with MOTM panels/ jacks

I had to normal the FM and 1V/OCT to ground, before i did that, turning the MorphX would cause it to go very slightly out of tune.

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Post by sduck » Wed Oct 06, 2010 4:07 pm

Neutron7 wrote:Note for People building with MOTM panels/ jacks

I had to normal the FM and 1V/OCT to ground, before i did that, turning the MorphX would cause it to go very slightly out of tune.
According to the e350_diy.pdf, if you use the regular switchcraft 112ax switched jacks, you'll want/need to connect the middle wire to the switched lug on these 2 jacks and the sync one also. The ones that are marked (optional). Or I suppose you could just connect a small jumper between the switched solder lug and the ground lug - I assume that would do the same thing. Of course this would apply to anyone to anyone using other sizes of switched jacks also, as are common in euro and frac.

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