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Post by Prints » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:57 am

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tobb wrote:Total shitty design...cv gate jacks on the top panel...lol

Its of course cheaper then making another pcb that has to fit at the back with a ribbon cable..
I prefer the CV jacks on the top panel.
Same, easier to access.
We must be shitty designers..

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Post by Flux302 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 7:58 am

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tobb wrote:Total shitty design...cv gate jacks on the top panel...lol

Its of course cheaper then making another pcb that has to fit at the back with a ribbon cable..
I prefer the CV jacks on the top panel.
1) not at all a cost cutting measure, this was the design decision day one.
2) you would want cv where? In the back where you can’t get to it ... ok smh .

As for the “influencer lock step” something tells me you guys don’t understand how an embargo works.... no “influencers” were paid it wasnt a “you must release at this time....
an embargo means you are not allowed to go live u til x time and date. That’s how the world works. Those who were excited about it, did their videos and made em live the minute the embargo was lifted... so really what you are seeing is people who don’t leak before hand. Quite a positive thing imho.

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Post by nectarios » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:01 am

Prints wrote:
nectarios wrote:
Prints wrote:
tobb wrote:Total shitty design...cv gate jacks on the top panel...lol

Its of course cheaper then making another pcb that has to fit at the back with a ribbon cable..
I prefer the CV jacks on the top panel.
Same, easier to access.
We must be shitty designers..
Yes.
Joking aside, I just like to patch cables to make sounds and find it much easier to access jacks on the top panel of something that is laying on a desk.

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Post by Panason » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:14 am

I guess tobb's objection is that exposed upward facing sockets are prone to dust and liquid entry?

no “influencers” were paid it wasnt a “you must release at this time....
Look, we're just tired of these guys pretending to be un-biased and independent. They get paid by Youtube ads and they need to get the hardware to do the videos, and companies aren't going to work with them if they didn't act as free publicity.
The only one who has some clout and is able to be a bit more critical is Nick Batt, the others generally seem like little more than influencers, so you don't need to put it in quote marks. At least we're not saying "shills"!

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Post by Flux302 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:24 am

I’m mobile so I doubt my links will work how I want... but seeing as this is MW I figured I’d be safe posting my nerdy videos here. I was involved early in the voicing process of this synth so I figured I would show what the mutants do. Really they do so much it’s hard to show it all and of course one selection of waveform/mutant combo might be the opposite of what another person would want to here but hey..
So here is a 30 min look at just the oscillator section
[video][/video]

Sorry if that doesn’t embed
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Post by Flux302 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:29 am

Panason wrote:I guess tobb's objection is that exposed upward facing sockets are prone to dust and liquid entry?

no “influencers” were paid it wasnt a “you must release at this time....
Look, we're just tired of these guys pretending to be un-biased and independent. They get paid by Youtube ads and they need to get the hardware to do the videos, and companies aren't going to work with them if they didn't act as free publicity.
The only one who has some clout and is able to be a bit more critical is Nick Batt, the others generally seem like little more than influencers, so you don't need to put it in quote marks. At least we're not saying "shills"!
My point is it’s a company trying to get the word out about its product. So they go to the advertising platforms that are going to reach the people who are going to be interested in their product. It’s a your damned if you do damned if you don’t thing. If you don’t like a particular YouTube channel, don’t watch it. That’s how you combat shills and shitty content.
Knowing most of those people personally I can say that most of them if they don’t like a product, just don’t review or advertise it. Ethics + YouTube is a fine line these days and most of those people are good people and that’s how they handle it. Anyway this is completely side tracking the discussion about the synth. So sorry for that.
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Post by GUM » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:31 am

at $800 a retro-looking 3osc wavetable desktop synth with poly-aftertouch pads (!), formant filter, looping envelopes that can sync to external bpm, and 5 LFO's (!) with an open mod matrix is a definite no-brainer, must buy for me.

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Post by damase » Wed Sep 04, 2019 10:57 am

would be awesome to have a simple midi controller with this PolyTouch keybed

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Post by mmp » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:23 am

Sure would be nice. Hint hint.
damase wrote:would be awesome to have a simple midi controller with this PolyTouch keybed

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Post by mush » Wed Sep 04, 2019 11:53 am

It is quite an interesting team. Daniel T. who was one of the elektron founders, Glen D. former Arturia. ASM sure know how to get good people.
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Post by ckwjr » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:11 pm

I don't have any objections to the idea of an extremely coordinated marketing campaign for a completely unknown/new brand. When a campaign looks more organic, it's not that it is necessarily more organic but often because the marketing is more savvy. Here it's been kind of brute force, but highly effective. Banner up at Perfect Circuit. Perfect Circuit Video. 2 videos at Sweetwater. Loopop, Bobeats, Sonic State, etc. It's not different from other products really. If I had a new product for this market, this is how I would market it. That's what YouTube is for...now...

The embargo is an effective "on switch" for a marketing campaign, so it seems disingenuous to suggest there's something arbitrary about the deluge of social media happening simultaneously.

I like knowing about new products. That's a big reason I visit this site and am a solid customer of this kind of gear. It's just interesting to watch the process unfold. No judgment from me.

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Post by TheRosskonian » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:44 pm

Flux302 wrote:I’m mobile so I doubt my links will work how I want... but seeing as this is MW I figured I’d be safe posting my nerdy videos here. I was involved early in the voicing process of this synth so I figured I would show what the mutants do. Really they do so much it’s hard to show it all and of course one selection of waveform/mutant combo might be the opposite of what another person would want to here but hey..
So here is a 30 min look at just the oscillator section
[video][/video]

Sorry if that doesn’t embed
I listened to all the demos on the official site and while they sounded good, this video does more for showing the sound of the synth, thanks for sharing this one.

Interested to see/hear more of this synth in action now that it's been announced, the spec list alone is rather impressive. Did anyone catch a release date?

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Post by kcd06 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:45 pm

Nice to see BBoy tech report getting some attention.

Also, some people here could really chill a bit on their contempt. I'm not sure about some of the channels that got one of these synths (because I've not watched all the currently available vids), but others like Sonicstate has been a reliable and enthusiastic information source for years, Ken Pierce/Fluxwithit is among the last people I would accuse of being a mindless corporate shill, and Sweetwater is--as the others are--demonstrating and *gasp* having fun with a cool new instrument. There are no commercials of someone doing a deadmou5 impression in an oddly clean and carefully lit warehouse, no one-finger-Vangelis wannabes with a blizzard of 1/2 second cuts and lingering gear porn shots, no marketing drivel suggesting that history is now over as <new plastic thing> is The Greatest Evar and made from unicorn parts and LSD; just a bunch of established synth nerds geeking out over a tool with some really nifty capabilities and isnt a blatant ripoff of someones elses old work.
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Post by ckwjr » Wed Sep 04, 2019 12:58 pm

Wow that's the most accurate slamming of, e.g., Roland's TR-8s campaign I've ever read. Well done.

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Post by chiasticon » Wed Sep 04, 2019 1:13 pm

as far as it dropping via all the influencers, etc all at once... I get it. it's how I would announce the synth too. I mean, they're a brand new company with zero products. it's not like they have 100k followers on social media, or that they're announcing it at a trade show. gotta create buzz somehow. and now everyone's talking about it and watching the videos. mission accomplished. you can choose which source you'd like to go to to hear/learn about the thing, based upon your own preferences. given the number of people covering it, should be something for everyone.

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Post by tehyar » Wed Sep 04, 2019 2:12 pm

Now I just need Nick to wrap up his review so I can see how well it PWMs and how long the reverb tails.

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Post by CF3 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 3:48 pm

Big thumbs up for making a desktop variant. :tu:

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Post by Flux302 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 4:45 pm

tehyar wrote:Now I just need Nick to wrap up his review so I can see how well it PWMs and how long the reverb tails.
4 types of pwm (I walked nick through it a bit the other day, I think he is tiring of the joke haha).
I’ll have to double check but I wanna say reverb full length (before going into infinite freeze is 30 seconds .
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Post by tehyar » Wed Sep 04, 2019 8:30 pm

Flux302 wrote:
tehyar wrote:Now I just need Nick to wrap up his review so I can see how well it PWMs and how long the reverb tails.
4 types of pwm (I walked nick through it a bit the other day, I think he is tiring of the joke haha).
I’ll have to double check but I wanna say reverb full length (before going into infinite freeze is 30 seconds .
Well I never tire of Nick’s reviews. :tu: :hihi:

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Post by Sinamsis » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:03 pm

I don't need another synth but this has my attention. Great price point. Polyaftertouch and ribbon controller on the keyed version. It sounds pretty good to me, but I guess I'm just not a critic. The complex envelopes/LFO count. Tempo synced envelopes. I could keep going. Over all it is a very forward looking synth, but seems to take influence from some legendary synths.

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Post by VM » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:34 pm

Wonder how this will compare (in terms of sound) to the Malekko/Harvestman BFF that we've been waiting 2 years for...

The idea of a rugged, utilitarian, wavetable desktop synth is appealing, but im not totally convinced of the ASM yet.
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Post by Flux302 » Wed Sep 04, 2019 9:34 pm

Sorry I just checked, longest reverb tail before freeze is 90 seconds
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Post by deltaphoenix » Thu Sep 05, 2019 9:34 am

Nothing to be sorry about and WOW ambient synth from hell.

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Post by Flux302 » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:11 am

Ok so I’m gonna ask, and please everyone be nice ... what sort of stuff would you like me to show in a video of it. I’m gonna be shooting more videos of it (because I want to not because I’m paid to or anything else). So I figure I’ll ask, what sort of things do you feel like you wanna see from it? I’ll see what I can cobble together over the weekend. I have a video going live probably tonight showing how to create a eveloving kind of pad sound. And in it I show the workflow pretty well.
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Post by mamsk » Thu Sep 05, 2019 11:22 am

this is a fuckin auto-buy, what an entrance

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