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tIB Stainer!
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:21 pm Post subject: mixers: converting insert out fro pre to post eq? |
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A possibly over generic question: if I had an analog mixer with pre EQ inserts on each channel how difficult would it be to change that to post EQ? _________________ Listen
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ignatius Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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depends on the mixer. some of them have little jumpers and it's as easy as moving the jumpers to other pins.
pretty much anything can be done w/an analogue console if you know what you are doing. google will be your friend as to the specifics of whatever mixer you are trying to mod. _________________ LABEL TWITTER FACEBOOOK SAMPLE LIBRARY
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Low-Gain Super Deluxe Wiggler
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tIB Stainer!
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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Ive taken a punt on an old allen and heath sr16 plus, it is apparently cosmetically nearly minty and in full working order... comes with schematics but they are all online anyway. http://www.allen-heath.co.uk/veterans/product.asp?product=SR%20Plus
Im yet to go through the instructions to see if its as simple as jumper settings, would be nice if it is...
Hoping to mod it to allow post-EQ inserts out to my soundcard so I can get a 'wet' out from each channel.
If its difficult then I might just settle for using the pre's but ideally Id have that EQ too. _________________ Listen
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tIB Stainer!
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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That's great news... this is my delaying of getting the zed R16 which Ive been heavily GASing over for some time now. Just hope its as good as it says it is; bit of an ebay gamble on this. _________________ Listen
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daverj Vintage Video Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like the "pre-fader" setting is post EQ. _________________ Dave Jones Design | http://www.jonesvideo.com |
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tIB Stainer!
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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^ That looks right, though Im not sure thats the aux send as opposed to channel insert... think getting the insert to send post EQ might require a bit more work. _________________ Listen
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daverj Vintage Video Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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According to the schematic there is an EQ Cut switch which will bypass the EQ. So if you plug into the Insert jack and push that switch, then you are essentially post EQ. (though you don't get the EQ going out the insert jack)
Otherwise it looks like you would have to cut traces and maybe add a resistor and cap to the insert in to create a true post EQ insert.. _________________ Dave Jones Design | http://www.jonesvideo.com |
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tIB Stainer!
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Posted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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^ thanks for the help, it might be that I can make do with the aux sends being post as I rarely EQ anything other than the modular.... 4 channels should be enough. In an ideal world Id get a mod done to switch between pre and post on each insert, in reality having the 4 channels running post EQ may be enough. _________________ Listen
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EATyourGUITAR has no life
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:15 am Post subject: |
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| a friend of mine modded a midas live mixer in a similar way. the client braught in a printed forum post with pics on breaking the trace on the PCB. after he did the work they told him it was a $10,000 mixer. he almost shit his pants cause he is not really a tech and thats an expensive mixer to learn on. |
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tIB Stainer!
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Ha, good story.
A&H arrived the other day, bt bigger than I expected:
Great board though, not decided whther to have a crack myself or seek help from a pro: didnt cost me 10 grand but i still dont want to kill it! _________________ Listen
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