Muff's Modules & More

[theglyph]

Phonogene?

[Veqtor]

I love grain delays, also having some cv control over jitter also, pitch envelopes of the grains is really nice, would love connecting it up to pp+brains with the pp modulations controlling different resynthesis parameters and also a rené to control a 1/voct pitch transpose input.

And about the "there's no point in having one because you can do it on a computer"... Sell your modular. You can do all of it on a computer.

But seriously... I think it's what won't come to mind until I work with a modular granular processor for a while that'll be really interesting.

[suboptimal]

[pixelmechanic]

[Monobass]

I hope the mobile device version of PD will be offered on the Raspberry Pi.... that could open up a very modular friendly world of high quality/voice computer granulation.

[Veqtor]

I'm quite fond of the idea of having an actual modular. I could never replace it with a computer. Perhaps it is that I work with computers all the time and want to get away from them when I create. There's something about a computer screen that kind of makes it not-leisure anymore for me. I went from reaktor to REAL modulars so... I'm never going back.

[Monobass]

yeah me too.. although If I could easily encapsulate a PD or Max patch into a standalone module that would be awesome...

[Drumdrumdrumdrum]

Andrino and Max?

I'm still a bit naive about all these open source programs. It all seems a bit too geeky for me. I'm researching the whole idea but it seems like a bottomless pit of research. How far does one go before they can use it for compositions?

Granular effects just take me to outer space. I have to have it in my music, there is no doubt.

[Soy Sos]

The Fragment Generator is not really granular in the way people are discussing, as in chopping up bits of digital audio. I just got a Tyme Sefari a couple of days ago and am having a lot of fun with it. I know it's not granular either, but it is letting me crudely shuffle and scan through small 8 bit audio samples. The Max 4 Live instrument Granulator is the shit, I doubt we'll see anything that huge in a module any time soon. I'd love something between those 2 extremes at some point for sure!

DGTom (the designer) describes the Fragment Generator:

I could call it a VC Electro Boogie Tom Fill module. . . but I don't think that will help much

its not digital but it can sound very digital.

it isn't a filter, tho it _contains filters_

it's more indebted to the Polyrhythmophone than the 258, but, has more in comman with the TR 808 than either of those.

it is, indeed, a PITA to explain without getting bogged down in technicals, but I'll do my best.

Its a 'voice module' that has VC over Frequency, Amplitude & Timbre built around 3 high Q (ringing) filters which we've called "fragments"

How often, how loudly, at which frequency & at which relative position each fragment 'rings' makes up the sound at any given moment in time.

It can sound like a 500bpm electro breakbeat, like the secret attic offspring of granulab & a CZ-101, make throaty, resonant filter sweepy sounds & insane subsonic, almost DC 'is this shit even on' speaker wobbling waveforms.

its my attempt at Marvel Comics "WHAT IF. . . Granular Synthesis Was Analogue!!?!?!" & is best used while wearing a cape with your undies on the outside of your pants for that very reason!

[Monobass]

[tomerbe]

if i have time i'll put together some sort of granular patch this weekend. though i'll be "cheating" as i'll be using my es3 & PD to provide the grain envelopes and CVs with random deviation. i only have enough modules to do 2 or 3 grains at once (3vcas, 3 vcos), but enough to be somewhat interesting....

[amalthea]

[Drumdrumdrumdrum]

Why have I not heard about Alchemy before now? That is one slick VST! Im particularly interested in using this for resynthesis. They seem like a fun bunch of geek programers too.

[thaneco]

Reaktor is an amazing program with endless possibilities. Using both modular and reaktor is the best way for me (like for example passing the audio out from my modular to reaktor's granular effects). But I have to agree that watching a computer screen is a little tiresome

[Drumdrumdrumdrum]

Not to dis Reactor, but it always sounds like Reactor....if you know what I mean? Im starting to feel the same about Omnisphere too. Can pick it from a mile away on a movie soundtrack or nature doco.

I agree that a balance between VSTs and modular is the key. But balancing can be very tricky.

If some of these companies like Livid could get some real hands on interfacing between modular and VST then................

[Dr. Sketch-n-Etch]

So, I'm a bit of a noob with this granular stuff. Is it basically just switching little snippets of sound in and out really quickly? For example, say that you've got two sources of audio (say, Bach's "Mass in B Minor" on Channel 1 and the Sex Pistols' "God Save the Queen" on Channel 2) going into a crossfader (like, say, the Intellijel uFade -- TM 2011, All Rights Reserved) which is being controlled by a pulse wave at 1 to 100 Hz. Now, let's say you modulate the pulse width and frequency of the pulse wave. Would this essentially be granular synthesis?

[tomerbe]

you are somewhat there.

granular synthesisis a pretty open idea, but usually implies randomization of parameters for each grain, possibility of randomization of grain size and start time. and a variability of grain density, so that you might have 0 to say 32 grains (no real top limit) playing at the same time.

check barry truax's riverrun for an early example



here's a simple granular csound sampling piece i did a while back

[s]http://soundcloud.com/tomerbe/i-can-hear-my-heart-singing[/s]

[Mark Landman]

[Johnisfaster]

How could it possibly be pointless? I put modular samples into software granular apps all the time and it sounds bitchin. To be able to do it on the modular with CV control would be amazing.

A simple sine sample can get really crazy, it doesnt have to be a complex audio source to get really complex results.

[amalthea]