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revmutt
I am thinking about buying an small drill press.

Any recommendations?

I have little to no space right now but if I could find the right one to do things like panel holes I might consider it.
BananaPlug
I looked into that a bit but ended up buying this little punch for much less money.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Heavy-Duty-Hand-Punch-w-Stand/H7862

That and a few handy hand tools is sufficient for my needs at the moment. I use a little spring loaded hole marker to make a tiny dent (like you would use to start a hole for a drill), then punch it with the punch. The tip of the punch has a point to engage with the dent. If I need an in between size the hole may need to be enlarged with a few turns of a reamer or by drilling with a step drill bit. Using the step drill hand held isn't bad at all if you've gotten the hole started accurately with the punch. In aluminum panels you can generally punch a hole pretty close to the size you need and be done in one or two steps.
revmutt
I want something that I can get accurate matching holes and don't have to be able to see nor draw a straight line.
pheops
i have the ryobi drill press they sell at home depot...i think it was $99 or less.
it works great for what I do, although would probably not be a good choice as a 'production' tool? has the laser guide line thingy and everything, but i try not to trust that stuff. for the less than 100 holes a year I drill, it works great, is fun to use, fits on a nightstand, and is great to show off in tours of the house...makes me look quite manly to have a drill press in the shop. hihi .

i did have to get over the 'buying cheap tools from china via bigbox retailer' thing, but.....
revmutt
Buying cheap tools is always a bad idea. Sometimes one has to go cheap to figure out whether it's something that one is going to get enough use out of.

I am tempted to see if I can find a local machine shop that will allow me access or just do the work.

I'm not doing anything like production. It's mostly for doing stuff like adding extra switches and making LED panels.
pheops
i've yet to find fault with its actual performance, its more of a ethics thing for me. its surprisingly sturdy and accurate for the price.if i were machinist i would consider something else, but i'm not using it everyday by any means.

there's nothing like a row of perfectly countersunk holes, all exactly the same depth...a beautiful thing. maybe overkill for aluminum front panels, but...

community colleges are a great place to find shop tools. sometimes $40 will enroll you in a class that gives you access to lots of shop tools, even laser cutters and cnc mills.

the bayarea has places like 'techshop'; pay by the day access to tools, like a sportsclub for diy.
JohnLRice
While a drill press would be sweet, why not just use a hand held drill?

Hey, can you drive to Michigan? 8)
http://annarbor.craigslist.org/tls/980224161.html
Luka
for the kind of stress that goes into a drill press when drilling pcbs and aluminium i think buying relatively cheap drillpress is fine

if you are drilling through inch thick steel then buying a cheap drill press is going to be a bad decision

ours is worth about $50-$80 in the hardware store and my housemate uses it for drilling 10mm steel, even now that it is a bit broken it is still perfectly fine to use for small jobs like pcbs and faceplates.
the only main things that go wrong with them is the rubber belt becomes loose (which can be replaced) and the drill unfastens a little from the pole (not a major problem, only really jerks a bit when you turn it on/off... you should be lining it up while it is turned on anyway)

i dont see anypoint in going out and spending more than $100 on a press
you need to save money for drill bits!

and you know we actually bought ours 2nd hand for $5 at a garage sale smile
Luka
but.. i woud definately buy a drill press and not resort to using a normal drill
having control over the perpendicular motion is essential
you will break 1000 more drill bits using a normal drill
JohnLRice
I wish I had room for a drill press! waah

It REALLY pays to get good drill bits too! One of the best tool investments I've ever made was to buy a set of Triumph Twist Drills! They are truely awesome! I used to use everything from super cheap the manufacturer should be shot drill bits to reasonable quality stuff but about 10 years ago I got tired of drill bits that would constantly break, chip, get dull and even bend! eek! I only use drill bits occasionally but it's always been with a hand drill and in 10 years I haven't broken any of the Triumph bits, not even the 1/16" one! w00t And they all seem plenty sharp still.

I can't recommend them highly enough! love Here is their site: http://www.ttdonlineusa.com/
The set I have is the 21 peice (1/16”-3/8” by 64th) model T180HD with a metal index. This set goes for about $70 retail but I found a brand new set on Ebay for only $35!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=27033035 8260

Do yourself a big DIY favor and get a set of Triumph bits NOW!!! Mr. Green
Cat-A-Tonic
BananaPlug wrote:
I looked into that a bit but ended up buying this little punch for much less money.
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Heavy-Duty-Hand-Punch-w-Stand/H7862

That and a few handy hand tools is sufficient for my needs at the moment. I use a little spring loaded hole marker to make a tiny dent (like you would use to start a hole for a drill), then punch it with the punch. The tip of the punch has a point to engage with the dent. If I need an in between size the hole may need to be enlarged with a few turns of a reamer or by drilling with a step drill bit. Using the step drill hand held isn't bad at all if you've gotten the hole started accurately with the punch. In aluminum panels you can generally punch a hole pretty close to the size you need and be done in one or two steps.

Thanks for the link Bananaplug.
I'm looking in to buying one of these.
ndkent
I'm curious, what are people using for holes in PCBs?
Scott Stites
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the bayarea has places like 'techshop'; pay by the day access to tools, like a sportsclub for diy.


eek!

Holy cow!!! TechShop looks freaking awesome - it looks like a DIYer's paradise. You could do PCBs, panels, even cases. The have Arduino classes and an electronics shop. I bet they'll have one in Kansas sometime in the next 100 years . lol

Looks like they are sprouting up in other places, but I found this video of the original, which is in Menlo Park, CA, just across San Francisco Bay from Buchla and Associates.

http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/05/01/techshop-a-community.html
JohnLRice
Scott Stites wrote:
Quote:
the bayarea has places like 'techshop'; pay by the day access to tools, like a sportsclub for diy.


eek!

Holy cow!!! TechShop looks freaking awesome - it looks like a DIYer's paradise. You could do PCBs, panels, even cases. The have Arduino classes and an electronics shop. I bet they'll have one in Kansas sometime in the next 100 years . lol

Looks like they are sprouting up in other places, but I found this video of the original, which is in Menlo Park, CA, just across San Francisco Bay from Buchla and Associates.

http://tv.boingboing.net/2008/05/01/techshop-a-community.html


That IS a really cool idea! But it seems kind of expensive unless you need to do a lot of work and/or need specialized tools that are too expensive or big to have at home. A year's membership is $1200 (monthly it's $125 or $50 for one day). $1200 would buy a lot of nice tools to have at home or 10 to 20 panels done at Front Panel Express etc.

Still, I hope to see this catch on! It would be nice to know that there was one in driving distance. hyper
bubblesound
ndkent wrote:
I'm curious, what are people using for holes in PCBs?

i've got the drill press kit for my dremel. it was about $30+the dremel tool.
pheops
would LOVE to be a little closer to techshop in menlo park. they always bring all their tools/cnc mills/laser cutters to maker faire...mills that would never ever fit it my garage or in my budget. pretty sure its one of the 'mythbuster' guys that started to place...its geek heaven.

in reality though, i've had better luck/cost ratio from a local laser cutter for one-off's. and from a website called mfg.com (upload a drawing and machine shops bid against each other for your job).

i've heard good things about:

http://www.bigbluesaw.com/
and
http://www.emachineshop.com/

the dremel press is absolutely perfect for pcbs.
but there's nothing like clamping down an awkward part and pulling down the drill press slot machine arm for the WIN SlayerBadger!
Scott Stites
Quote:
That IS a really cool idea! But it seems kind of expensive unless you need to do a lot of work and/or need specialized tools that are too expensive or big to have at home.


Hmmm....this is true. I do actually have a drill press at home (I'm actually allowed to operate it from time to time, too), but an hour or so at a shear would do me good.

I know! One could design a whole bunch of different panels, get pre-orders from folks, then take that money and buy a membership and materials. Then you could schwack out the panels on all of those gizmos, when they could fit you in on them, and trickle the panels out as time and conditions allow....

Russian Roulette

What the hell am I thinking? lol

I like those links from Pheops much, much better now that you mention it.

As you were......
pheops
how bout this?

"$30 DIY high-speed PCB drill press"
http://www.instructables.com/id/%2430-High-Speed-PCB-Drill-Press/

this is great too, scale up the jig for drilling holes in a straight line (waaay harder than you think):

"Drill Small, Precise Holes"
http://www.instructables.com/id/SZSRPRIFZ8J3OAM/

i'm a makezine/instructables junkie....
daverj
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Techshop ..... pretty sure its one of the 'mythbuster' guys that started to place...its geek heaven.


Looks like it was created by Jim Newton who was a "science advisor" for Mythbusters during their 3nd season.

http://techshop.ws/founders.html
Scott Stites
Quote:
$30 DIY high-speed PCB drill press"
http://www.instructables.com/id/%2430-High-Speed-PCB-Drill-Press/

this is great too, scale up the jig for drilling holes in a straight line (waaay harder than you think):

"Drill Small, Precise Holes"
http://www.instructables.com/id/SZSRPRIFZ8J3OAM/


This stuff is just too cool! My drill press is really much too large for PCBs. Thanks for this!
Peake
I believe that Ace Hardware have a nice one for about $100.00 delivered (order online).
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