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Endosine
Tamahagane Modular

Joined: 07 Oct 2009
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Location: Shanghai

 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Introducing Tamahagane Modular and our first module Eternity

Eternity provides 6 clock dividers that are independently settable. The focus is long timeframe divisions, but it can do short counts too. Each divider has a endless encoder to set the division. By default each encoder will jump to 1 through 8, 16, 32, 48, 64, 96, 128, 192, 256, 384, 512, 768, 1024=E1 and maybe 2048=E2. Pressing the encoder and turning will allow you to move one step at a time to get odd divisions.

Past those steps there is a FIB/PHI and PI setting. Still sorting out the details on the math modes - EG how to round but the idea is that it would count steps according to the math on one divider. So you'd get a pulse every 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 in FIB Mode out of one divider. I'm not too sure how to limit the upper range of the division for those modes, would be nice if it was adjustable. Inverse would be nice too.

The dividers can be linked together to follow each other so you could have a ping every 60 counts / bars / quarters / etc. followed by one after 4 then looping around again to the 60.

In addition there are modes that allow you to set the gate time, repeat and offset of each divider. Modes are accessed by clicking the encoders.

Modes - on encoder release
Enc1 - divide (default)
Enc2 - trigger/gate
Enc3 - offset
Enc4 - repeats
Enc5 - system settings

This announcement is coming a little earlier than planned thanks to Monobass starting a fun thread on Module Daydreams. Eternity has been my daydream for the last few months. I'm just finishing up the design stages and starting prototyping. Aiming to be in production early summer. Any feedback would be great.

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qu.one
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:19 pm    Post subject:

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:32 pm    Post subject:

Awesome. This is one of those modules I've had in the back of my head that I would do whenever I got around to it (I even had some Arduino code written for it).

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:33 pm    Post subject:

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:34 pm    Post subject:

Agreed - the only thing i would change is the typeface - and maybe line up the pots in a straight line.
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Endosine
Tamahagane Modular

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Location: Shanghai

 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 12:54 pm    Post subject:

Isn't that usually a good thing around here? I might look for a different font considering there's two comments already on it. I imagine with the milling / laser cutting I was planning on for the front panel my choice in fonts might be limited.

 qu.one wrote: Agreed - the only thing i would change is the typeface - and maybe line up the pots in a straight line.

The pots, Encoders actually, are something I was having a hard time with. My original designs were in a straight line but they don't have much space in between. The encoders are a bit bigger than the knob size on the back panel. I was thinking staggered would be a good compromise. The other route I looked at was cutting it to 5 dividers/channels but that didn't feel "right". In looking at my rack the densest module I have knob wise is the WMD Geiger Counter, with 6 knobs evenly spaced top to bottom but they don't have a row of jacks at the bottom. I thought about going with a wider panel to put the clock, reset and sum jacks on the side but that didn't feel "right" either. I imagine as I go through the prototypes the module will evolve here.

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Mans
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:04 pm    Post subject:

Excellent! And another vote to change the font
Endosine
Tamahagane Modular

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:11 pm    Post subject:

Here's a few of the alternate designs I was messing with... I think the one above is the easiest to use version. Someone in the other thread mentioned small and cheap which might be more like the LCD version. Put your bad font sunglasses on!

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gryfon1
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:25 pm    Post subject:

Here's a vote in favor of the font (and the module).
Way nicer looking than any of the Make Noise stuff... [just my \$0.02]

I don't even mind the staggered pots ;-)

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:26 pm    Post subject:

i like the font.

this is pretty awesome module.

i would rather it be easily usable than match other modules. the staggered is a good way to get more stuff on the face with a little space

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:35 pm    Post subject:

Hate the font.
Maybe it would look more balanced if you invert the stagger?
I'd probably prefer the Micro version.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject:

that module is awesome. i don't think you should worry about the font. euro is so polarized/disconnected visually that no matter what you do it will piss of x and please y. go with your heart and make the thing kick fucking ass and it will sell. the most important thing is that design is fucking fantastic.
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject:

this is awesome. Clearly having this type of setup will yield some very advanced rhythms! I want one.

Staggered encoders is great, if it means you'll get six over five, and I agree that it would look better if they were "inverted", so that they go top to bottom:
right, left, right, left, right, left.

Do the typeface in black for legibility, keep the font.
woodteeth
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:00 pm    Post subject:

lose the font. do something in a nice bold sans. and in black.
hawklord2112
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Introducing Tamahagane Modular and our first module Eter

 Endosine wrote: Eternity provides 6 clock dividers that are independently settable. The focus is long timeframe divisions, but it can do short counts too. Each divider has a endless encoder to set the division. By default each encoder will jump to 1 through 8, 16, 32, 48, 64, 96, 128, 192, 256, 384, 512, 768, 1024=E1 and maybe 2048=E2. Pressing the encoder and turning will allow you to move one step at a time to get odd divisions. Past those steps there is a FIB/PHI and PI setting. Still sorting out the details on the math modes - EG how to round but the idea is that it would count steps according to the math on one divider. So you'd get a pulse every 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144 in FIB Mode out of one divider. I'm not too sure how to limit the upper range of the division for those modes, would be nice if it was adjustable. Inverse would be nice too. The dividers can be linked together to follow each other so you could have a ping every 60 counts / bars / quarters / etc. followed by one after 4 then looping around again to the 60. In addition there are modes that allow you to set the gate time, repeat and offset of each divider. Modes are accessed by clicking the encoders. Modes - on encoder release Enc1 - divide (default) Enc2 - trigger/gate Enc3 - offset Enc4 - repeats Enc5 - system settings This announcement is coming a little earlier than planned thanks to Monobass starting a fun thread on Module Daydreams. Eternity has been my daydream for the last few months. I'm just finishing up the design stages and starting prototyping. Aiming to be in production early summer. Any feedback would be great.

This.

NOW.

this looks fantastic.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:05 pm    Post subject:

My vote:

Dedicated knob per channel (don't want to select before adjust).
Two of these half sized modules seems more useful than a single module with 6 outputs derived from the same clock.

Edit: Oh, I missed the part about...
 Quote: Modes - on encoder release Enc1 - divide (default) Enc2 - trigger/gate Enc3 - offset Enc4 - repeats Enc5 - system settings

Good stuff. I was working on something like this a while back but never came up with a good display.
Endosine
Tamahagane Modular

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:15 pm    Post subject:

Thanks for all the great feedback everyone!

The fonts, colors, etc. are something you will have to wait until the module has been forged in atoms to really get a sense of. I have some cool plans for the look and feel of all Tamahagane Modular modules.

If you didn't know, Tamahagane is the high carbon steel ingots that are used in making samurai swords. A prime inspiration for Tamahagane Modular are the fold lines that you can see in a very high quality sword.

Here's an inverted encoder version... Thoughts?

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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:18 pm    Post subject:

I want one of these!
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Introducing Tamahagane Modular and our first module Eter

 Endosine wrote: This announcement is coming a little earlier than planned thanks to Monobass starting a fun thread on Module Daydreams. Eternity has been my daydream for the last few months. I'm just finishing up the design stages and starting prototyping. Aiming to be in production early summer. Any feedback would be great.

OMG!
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 Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 2:35 pm    Post subject:

Great looking module. Keep the font and color.
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