Muff's Modules & More

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:09 am Post subject: [ORDER] CGS/Serge Panels

Ok guys i think we're set to do a run of some cgs/serge panels.
These are the panels you can order.

The Bog - The voice panel. (BOG = Bringer of Groove)

The Swamp - The sequencer panel. (SWAMP = Sequencer With Aribrary Manipulated Pulses)

The Marsh - The bizarre panel. (MARSH = Mutilated Active Research System Hold)

You can order any panel you like.
I can get some discount this time.
1 panel = 75 euro shipped
Each extra orderd panel you'll get for 70 euro.

Please use the order form in an email to my email adress which is also the adress to paypal to (modular@gmail.comremovesomecrap)

BTW if someone wants the first or second vco panel if possible add it in the order form. If i get enough interest i can do those to. But i might contact you before ordening to get the new design instead.

CV TWISTER DOC http://db.tt/qWsPjgwJ

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:11 am Post subject:

I'm ordering [1] pieces of the CGS/SERGE xxx Panel
for EUR xx shipped worldwide
I'm aware that I may have to pay additional amounts of customs and tax in my country.

I'm also aware that I'm only buying screened and drilled panel that may help me building an
electronic module - I'm *not* buying a diy kit, not a "project" - just a screened/drilled panel.
I know how to build electronic circuits and I am trained in electrical safety matters.
The seller of these panels will not be held responsible for any damage that results
from these panels, directly or indirectly.

My shipping address is

xxxxxx
xxxxx
xxxx
xxx

My PayPal address is xxx@xx.com
My Forumname is xxxx

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:16 am Post subject:

I wanna close the orders the 1st of July and order the panels at the manufacter.

GeneralBigBag · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:25 am Post subject:

MARSH TIME! w00t

Now I just gotta decide if I want to build a second voice panel...

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:30 am Post subject:

- eagleroad 2 BOG and 2 Marsh
- Barry BOG
- Frozenkore BOG 2xMARSH
- franzschuier MARSH BOG
- SMS303 2 BOG and 2 Marsh
- chinard BOG and MARSH
- whitewulfe BOG SWAMP MARSH
- otherunicorn 2 BOG, 2 SWAMP, 2 MARSH
- Muff Wiggler 2 BOG, 2 SWAMP, 2 MARSH
- JP BOG
- bint MARSH
- PF BOG MARSH
-fluxmonkey BOG MARSH
- notimeforlove BOG MARSH SWAMP
- Kollo BOG MARSH
- cosmic-gang BOG MARSH SWAMP
- diophantine BOG MARSH SWAMP
- theabsent BOG
- zyathus BOG MARSH SWAMP
- Pozor BOG MARSG SWAMP
- negativspace 2xBOG 2xMARSH 2xSWAMP
- bluedonkey MARSH
- Sandy BOG MARSH SWAMP
- Dego MARSH 2xCUSTOM
- chocolatyshatner BOG MARSH
- rico loverde BOG MARSH SWAMP
- jooks BOG MARSH SWAMP
- Magman MARSH
- 303monkey BOG MARSH
- rod serling fan club BOG MARSH
- bf 2x BOG 2xMARSH
- harolddonnelly BOG SWAMP
- iopop BOG MARSH
- krisp14u 2xMARSH 2xBOG 2xSWAMP
- zdarma BOG MARSH
- Cheradenine BOG
- modularfreak 2xMARS 1xBOG
- astroschnautzer MARSH
- FOWL BOG SWAMP MARSH
- mark 2xBOG, MARSH, SWAMP
- Återvändsgränd BOG SWAMP
- GeneralBigBag 2xBOG 1xMARSH
- Kopter BOG SWAMP
- dualmono SWAMP BOG MARSH
- wmonk BOG, MARSH
- CJ Miller BOG MARSH SWAMP
- the bad producer 2xBOG SWAMP MARSH
- thebot BOG
- mirri BOG MARSH
- miditerranean BOG
- wavehead SWAMP
- re create MARSH
- widdly BOG MARSH
- butte BOG SWAM MARSH
- E.A.S. BOG
- opsysbug BOG MARSH
- Droctave 2BOG, 2MARSH, 2SWAMP
- Elby 2BOG, 2MARSH, 2SWAMP
- grantb Marsh, BOG, SWAMP
- mb123music BOG, MARSH, SWAMP
- lematt BOG
- synchromesh Bog MARSH
- demian bog marsh swamp
- nangu 2xBOG 2xSWAMP 2xMARSH
- julianw BOG MARSH SWAMP
- microscopial BOG
- VICMOD 9x Marsh 1xSWAMP 1xBOG
- jpauty BOG SWAMP MARSH
- phisynth SWAMP MARSH BOG
- slo BOG MARSH
- gwaidan MARSH BOG
- Soldersmoke BOG MARSH
- otoskope 3xMarsh 3xSWAMP 3xBOG
- cyklopljud BOG,MARSH,SWAMP
- Pfurmel SWAMP
- ugh BOG MARSH SWAMP
- Krelnarb BOG MARSH
- Zodanga BOG MARSH
- bananeurysm BOG
- themanthatwasused BOG SWAMP
- mattrick BOG
- pre55ure BOG
- Sungjan BOG SWAMP
- gigasturtz BOG MARSH
- Kalerne BOG
- Asthmareport BOG, SWAMP, MARSH
- jean bender SWAMP, MARSH
- zyathus MARSH
- synchromesh SWAMP
- pvls MARSH, SWAMP

RED names are shipped

Ok i sorted out all orders to see what are the leftovers.
Some of them i'll keep for stuff which can go due shipping.
But stuff i can let go now are:

No spare panels avaible for now

If you order/pay for a panel i will add it to your current order if it isn't shipped yet.
If you didn't order before or your order is already shipped your name will go underneath the list and yours will be shipped as one of the last panels.

tailwagger · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:45 am Post subject:

I know what I'm going to be doing this fall/winter. hmmm.....

Living in The Bog, The Swamp and The Marsh. screaming goo yo

dude · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:49 am Post subject:

oh this is amazing stuff. i cannot order this time but you inspire me! so fucking cool.

jenamu6 · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:54 am Post subject:

So I have about a month to decide if I'm in or not.......

Damn this is tempting.

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 11:55 am Post subject:

About a month and a half Jean.
Ooow picking up panels here gets discount to and a beer.

Mr. Green

frozenkore · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:04 pm Post subject:

Now just gotta scrape together some cash. w00t

attacksustain · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject:

parasitk · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: [ORDER] CGS/Serge Panels

frozenkore · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:50 pm Post subject: Re: [ORDER] CGS/Serge Panels

parasitk · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: [ORDER] CGS/Serge Panels

frozenkore · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 1:58 pm Post subject: Re: [ORDER] CGS/Serge Panels

richard · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:12 pm Post subject:

MARSH for me, and I will get the processing panel too (SPEW*??) if and when you guys do it (dreaming of a couple of Thomas White LPGs in there though, Serge guys need LPGs too)

I have the SWAMP running already and the VCO B coming soon, add my two boats of Serge and TKB and 2 rows of Bugbrand... I mean seriously: an insane 9 panel banana system!! And I will sell all my euro if necessary to make it happen

(*Sound Processing Event Wanker)

dualmono · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject:

:omg:

Lame question:
Will CGS offer PCB/Parts kit(ty)s?

GeneralBigBag · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 2:41 pm Post subject:

Ken hasn't done kits in the past, but if you search the CGS build thread, I think someone on this board does.

frozenkore · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:01 pm Post subject:

Pfurmel · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:03 pm Post subject:

I thought the bare set of PCB's for each panel were available at a discount price, no?

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject:

attacksustain[ oow must have linked an old file.
The panel we got screened has this fixed!

the bad producer · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:54 pm Post subject:

Is the BOG decided upon, or is this the one where we choose VCO-A or VCO-B?

SMS303 · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject:

1 bog and 1 marsh please! hyper

Mono i'll pm you for a small beerdrink wiggler meeting and bring the money in person.... w00t

wmonk · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 7:55 pm Post subject:

Tempting, I could use a little side modular in my room in Utrecht cool

Time to get back to kit making i guess This is fun!

numan7 · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:16 pm Post subject:

numan7 wants 2 each of VCO A and MARSH panels thumbs up

!!

cheers,
n7

SMS303 · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:19 pm Post subject:

wavehead · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 8:53 pm Post subject:

todd fletcher has parts kits for all the Best of CGS stuff... which include hinged mounting rails, bud boat + everything.

widdly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject:

Sweet! I'm ordering another bog and a marsh. Thanks Zhee and Monopoly for all your efforts.

BTW the swamp panel I got last time has the Gated Comparator IN labelled as CLOCK.
I'm not sure if that's been fixed.

eagleroad · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:46 pm Post subject:

I just sent my email order for 2 BOG and 2 MARSH.
It's peanut butter jelly time!

negativspace · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 9:46 pm Post subject:

This thread just made my week, and it's only Wednesday. Thanks for all your hard work on this, mono-poly and zthee!

I'm probably in for 3-4 panels, expect an email from me as soon as I figure out which ones. w00t

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 10:48 pm Post subject:

You can order whatever panel you like.
But for the vco-a or vco-b panel i need about 20 orders to make it happen.
I'd love to have the cash for all orders at the 1st of July to proceed.
if there aren't enough vco-a or vco-b orders i might ask about cancel your order or switch to the Bog panel.

theabsent · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:06 am Post subject:

edit: found the info already.

Propably mentioned somewhere but didn't catch it:
What size are these exactly? I'll search/do a case during the summer.

harolddonnelly · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:18 am Post subject:

doepferiano · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:22 am Post subject:

MARSH!

zthee · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:14 am Post subject:

whitewulfe · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 3:29 am Post subject:

Can we send in the order email if we aren't able to pay for another week or two, or do we send in the order email as we pay?

Looking at 2x bog, 1x swamp, 1x marsh.

EDIT: Wound up sending in an order for one of each.

mono-poly · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:33 am Post subject:

negativspace · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 4:53 am Post subject:

Well, that solves my dilemma. hihi

magman · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:43 am Post subject:

zthee · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:33 am Post subject:

franzschuier · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:18 am Post subject:

PF · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:46 am Post subject:

I will probably book Bog and Marsh Panels.... thumbs up

SMS303 · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 9:58 am Post subject:

POST DELETED!
I was talking crap again..

wmonk · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:40 am Post subject:

Post deleted

cerebrosis · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:44 am Post subject:

Elby has component kits for most of these modules too, best for people in AU.

Rod Serling Fan Club · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 10:56 am Post subject:

Is there going to be another bud-boat group buy? I'd be down for a few.

mono-poly · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:59 am Post subject:

Updated the orderlist on page1.
If your name is RED it means i got the payment on my paypal acount.
If your name is black i just got the order form and i'm awaiting to have your payment before the 1st of July.
Please only order by emailing me the order form and not trough pm's.
This makes it easyer for me to work trough!

mono-poly · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:05 pm Post subject:

Falafelbiels:

Solderingclub seems interesting.
I'd love to join to or maybe if there are to many people we could consider doing it here?
Only thing is i won't be able to do it each week on a static day due work.

chinard · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:16 pm Post subject:

ok, ordering bog and marsh

just to make things easier, do you have a quick list of what CGS PCB kits go into these?

Pfurmel · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:22 pm Post subject:

digidennis · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject:

Dego · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:13 pm Post subject:

THE MARSH
------------------------------------
2 x CGS116 Extended ADSR $60
2 x CGS64 VCA $20
1 x CGS40 Modulo Magic $20
1 x CGS38 Wave Multiplier $10
1 x CGS32 Infinite melody $30
1 x CGS37 CV Cluster $10
2 x CGS62 Slope Detector $20
1 x CGS81 Dual voltage processor $10
1 x CGS41 Diatonic Converter

iopop · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:33 pm Post subject:

I believe the mixer in The Bog is the cgs04 D.C Mixer, right?

One could maybe use the spare op-amp in the serge vcf, havnt really checked if that's possible?

fluxmonkey · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject:

so on the Marsh, the Infinite Melody module incorporates a Diatonic Converter?

zthee · Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 11:57 pm Post subject:

otherunicorn · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:26 am Post subject:

Assuming I have not stuffed it up, these are the current PCB kits for the Best of panels.

http://www.cgs.synth.net/pcb/bestofcgs.html

Feel free to comment, throw mud, point out blunders, etc.

303monkey · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:03 am Post subject:

1 MARSH for me please.

Dego · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:13 am Post subject:

303monkey · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:14 am Post subject:

+1 BOG

jenamu6 · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:23 am Post subject:

SMS303 · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:12 am Post subject:

jooks · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 11:42 am Post subject:

1 MARSH and if I get funds 1 BOG for me w00t

Many thanks to the three of you for the great work making this possible applause

wmonk · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject:

GeneralBigBag · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:25 pm Post subject:

I'm gonna BOG + MARSH, and I think I'll be doing a build with a friend who was talking about BOG + SWAMPing SlayerBadger!

JP · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:37 pm Post subject:

I want them all. But it'll take me the next 20 years to build them. Grrr procrastination. Bog ordered.

JP · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:38 pm Post subject:

falafelbiels · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject:

falafelbiels · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:04 pm Post subject:

JP · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:07 pm Post subject:

Does anyone happen to have a saved mouser list or parts kit for the bog and others?

Last time I ordered parts myself for a tiny pcb I wanted to do, I ended up with 2 dozen capacitors the size of my fist.

notimeforlove · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject:

SMS303 · Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:30 pm Post subject:

bint · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:01 am Post subject:

emailed to order one MARSH panel - thanks for doing this!

kollo · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:19 am Post subject:

I just want to say how great i think it is that some very dedicated people make it possible for so many to build an amazing modular system and on top of that gain a bunch of electronics-skills. Thank you all! Guinness ftw!

Pfurmel · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:49 am Post subject:

amnesia · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 8:58 am Post subject:

I should get about 8 - 10 Marsh for VICMOD :-)

mono-poly · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:05 am Post subject:

List with orders updated!

lizlarsen · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 9:21 am Post subject:

Just curious, will the Swamp panel's mounting hole spacing and bottom logos be changed to match the Bog and Marsh panels? What about the text for "new compact oscillator" that is cut off by the mounting hole? I'm really excited about these but get anal about such stuff. smile

amnesia · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject:

10 x Marsh for VICMOD
Thanks

otherunicorn · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:38 pm Post subject:

fluxmonkey · Posted: Sat May 21, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject:

1 BOG, 1 MARSH, emailed & paypal'd. thanks everyone for making these happen.

Kopter · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:33 am Post subject:

How much do the more experienced wigglers here reckon it will cost to build a BOG-panel including "boat" and power supply? I really like the idea of building my own Serge-like panel, seeing as I probably won't be able to afford a genuine Serge any time soon...

franzschuier · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:00 am Post subject:

andrewF · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 10:10 am Post subject:

theabsent · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject:

I should be on the list for 1 X BOG. You never replied my e-mail. Did you got it?

Kopter · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:25 pm Post subject:

wmonk · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:39 pm Post subject:

Kopter · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:47 pm Post subject:

The Danish customs are notoriously anal, but I guess you have a valid and (very!) compelling point! nanners

wmonk · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject:

Kopter · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 6:08 pm Post subject:

Oh, yeah, Denmark is part of Schengen (even though we're apparently reinstating our ancient border control hmmm.....

). I was referring to the PCBs from Australia.

whitewulfe · Posted: Sun May 22, 2011 8:39 pm Post subject:

Pfurmel · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 4:46 am Post subject:

JP · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:48 am Post subject:

Bog panel and pcb's paid for, can't wait. Please now close orders, I'm having a very hard time not ordering the other 2 panels and pcb sets, they look like they'd be awesome as a set of 3, ggrrr weakness.

So is anyone planning on making component set group buys? Or saving the list as a mouser order (I think you can do that on mouser).

I'm confident with the making, just not the buying.

digidennis · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 7:58 am Post subject:

Tax in Denmark: 25%(vat/moms) + 3%(added vat based on type) + 22€ handlingfee

For the BOG and MARSH it could be as much as 510€ (~3800DKK) Never maintain cash savings again

for the panels and PCBs

Damn taxes.

Pfurmel · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:09 am Post subject:

iopop · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:12 am Post subject:

Panels are sent from EU so taxes are payed already. You should not pay any taxes/customs on those.

You could get most exotic parts inside EU, musikding.de or banzaimusic.com for knobs/pots/caps or make a large order (100€) via mouser so its sent as incoterms ddp and no need to worry about unexpected custom-fees.

As for pcbs from Ken, all orders Ive done have passed through without problems. I do realize I live on the other side of the 0resund and that my next order will be caught..

digidennis · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:23 am Post subject:

iopop · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:27 am Post subject:

Ah, sorry, 510€ in total. Though that was what you expected to pay for vat+customs. d'oh!

Seems like Ive been lucky. Only ever had to pay custom + tax on certain futurlec orders.

notimeforlove · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:16 am Post subject:

email sent ordering one of each

wmonk · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 9:53 am Post subject:

digidennis · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:34 am Post subject:

JP · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 1:51 pm Post subject:

n00b question, but how compatible with a eurorack system would this be once built? How easy is it to go back and forth between +/- 15v and +/- 12v?

Would it be as simple as me swapping the banana's for 1/8" jacks?

Dego · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:29 pm Post subject:

I have never paiad any custom and tax for Kens PCBs in Sweden. You Danish guys should do a deal with iopop wink

iopop · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 2:44 pm Post subject:

Haha, I can see myself as the future pcb pusher.. nanners

mono-poly · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject:

Updated the orderlist!

CJ Miller · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 6:49 pm Post subject:

I showed up just in time! Still been kicking myself about missing the A and B panels. Sure, I cannot really "afford" these now. But I actually have a huge pile of CGS on my bench and been banging my head for panel solutions. I have all of these ready to go, except for the programmer/sequencer and diatonic converter. Since my setup is almost ready, what I really mean is that I cannot afford NOT to buy these!

So, yes, I am definitely going to buy 1x each of these panels. Going to see which bills I can slide around to make this happen without getting my finances killed.

Thank you so much for doing this!
Cat Girl Synth

cosmic-gang · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 8:18 pm Post subject:

I'm in for the BOG and the Marsh. good luck for me! i'm gonna need it smile

diophantine · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject:

Spent all weekend (and then some) debating... finally ordered 1x of each.

I really want to play with bananas, and I only have PCBs here and/or planned for one of these circuits (the slope detector) into a module for my 5U/MU modular.

bint · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 10:14 pm Post subject:

payment sent

miditerranean · Posted: Mon May 23, 2011 11:31 pm Post subject:

1 Bog panel for me, please!

Euros was sent It's peanut butter jelly time!

richard · Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 7:20 pm Post subject:

MARSH ordered. Will have to pay later - bad time for me :(

notimeforlove · Posted: Tue May 24, 2011 10:52 pm Post subject:

I sent an email ordering one of each, but didn't see my name on the list, did you get that email?

mono-poly · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 12:27 am Post subject:

notimeforlove added

JP · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:17 am Post subject:

more n00b questions, am I reading right? there's no filters in any of these panels?

Could we be seeing a filter panel in the next batch? A panel that does nothing but filter would be madness.

cerebrosis · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:29 am Post subject:

JP · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:40 am Post subject:

So blind.

PF · Posted: Wed May 25, 2011 9:19 am Post subject:

Money send..... Guinness ftw!

babysealclub · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:37 am Post subject: Best of CGS Parts Kits

We've had several requests for parts kits for the new panels.

Here are prices I have put together. None of them include the panel or PCB's which you would need to purchase.

For The BOG (or either of the previous VCO Panels)
Parts are $600.00

For The Swamp
Parts are $500.00

For The Marsh
Parts are $580.00

All kits include all PCB mounted parts, panel parts, 3" boat, custom hinged mounting rails, all harware, and power cabling. Everything except the panel and PCB's.

Pictures of a recent build using same parts as supplied in the kits.

If you are interested, please PM or contact use through our website http://www.thesonicworkshop.com/

Thanks,
-TF

mono-poly · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:40 am Post subject:

Looking great!

zthee · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:05 am Post subject:

I don't mind my designs being built by people, who use it for a while and then sell it.

But to actually turn it into a business...

Remind me to clearly mark my next projects as non profit.

bf · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:38 am Post subject:

zthee, I for one greatly appreciate the time a thought that you put into these designs. Without your involvement I know that I would be much less active in sdiy. It would be nice to see your designs inspire more people to become involved in diy. Surely those for whom sdiy is simply beyond (two years ago I hadn't soldered more than a cable) may be tempted to look beyond themselves for an opportunity to enjoy your designs, and for them options like TF has offered would surely seem appealing. I would encourage those tempted to go that route to try it themselves. There is simply a greater pleasure in powering on an object you have built than one you have bought. Not to directly criticize TF too harshly, but the post does seem a bit disrespectful given the time that zthee and mono continue to put into these projects free of charge (really I'm sure at a great loss of time) simply out of a shared passion and goodness of heart.
Let me just voice that perhaps TF's post is off topic, this being the Do It YOURSELF subforum.
Thank you zthee, mono and Ken for your time, dedication and passion for this project.

babysealclub · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:11 pm Post subject:

Zthee,

I surely didn't mean to cause a problem. I have asked for, and received, Ken's blessing to offer parts and custom builds of his designs. And while I do charge for my time and try to run things as a buisness, it's still just a hobby. I think your panel designs are beautiful and a great service to other DIYer's, and I feel that the services I offer are in the same spirit.

Thanks,
-TF

mono-poly · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:18 pm Post subject:

Well i don't see it really as a businenss since Todd never orderd a panel.
And people have to supply the panels to him.

zthee · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:23 pm Post subject:

I could've been fine with this if you had asked me as well. Since it's my designs that now gives you an extra income.

But since you didn't I'm not.

zthee · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:26 pm Post subject:

bf · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:28 pm Post subject:

redacted

babysealclub · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:31 pm Post subject:

Zthee,

It's absolutely not my intention to upset anyone, so if it would please you, I will not offer custom builds based on your panel designs.

-TF

dude · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:37 pm Post subject:

who else offers parts kits? i ask out of ignorance not stating political perspective. it would seem to me that offering kits would actually encourage more people to buy panels. i agree communication beforehand is always a great way to be sure everyone is on the same page and everything is welcome. i probably don't understand the whole issue here. if it is just parts kits and folks have to buy the pcbs and panels, than i don't see how that is stepping on toes. again this post isn't meant as inflammatory. for me, if someone didn't offer a kit, i wouldn't buy it, not because i didn't want it, but because not everybody is capable if flawlessly putting together such a complex series of circuits based on an even more complex set of boms.

zthee · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:42 pm Post subject:

TF, You stopping this will not benefitting the community.
And that's what's most important for me.
So just keep going.

But I do want you to know that next time you make damn sure to ask EVERYONE involved! Even the designer.

babysealclub · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 12:56 pm Post subject:

Zthee,

I apologize for not getting your permission beforehand. I thought I was above board when I had made arrangments with Ken. It was a total oversight for me to not ask you, since you had put so much work in on your panel designs, and again the panels are beautiful.

If you Mono, Ken , or Serge are ever in Chicago It be my pleasure to take you out for a pizza.

Thanks Again,
-TF

mono-poly · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 1:23 pm Post subject:

Thx Todd,

But i am just organizing stuff i don't feel that super special.
I am also hapoy stuff settled with you and Zthee and that everything is cool.
I'm happy you offer the service and that all is good now.

polyroy · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:29 pm Post subject:

How often do you do these runs out of interest? Would love to buy all panels but doesn't seem economical atm cool

otherunicorn · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 10:37 pm Post subject:

polyroy · Posted: Thu May 26, 2011 11:01 pm Post subject:

Shit, better start saving then! At least the deadline gives me some time

theabsent · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 1:25 am Post subject:

rico loverde · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 4:13 pm Post subject:

Email and payment sent for 1 bog

harolddonnelly · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:32 pm Post subject:

Hi I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask questions about specific modules but I'll throw it out there, On the dual VCA is the pot for Gain or VC amount?

Thanks!

otherunicorn · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 7:41 pm Post subject:

harolddonnelly · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 9:47 pm Post subject:

Okay great thanks!

diophantine · Posted: Fri May 27, 2011 10:16 pm Post subject:

BTW, probably anal/inane question: I notice that the BOG VCA is shown with black (bipolar) IN/OUT jacks, while the MARSH VCA is shown with blue (unipolar) IN/OUT jacks. Is it just creative use of jack colors, since the MARSH is mostly CV processing?

otherunicorn · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:00 am Post subject:

Reality Checkpoint · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:40 am Post subject:

Is there anyone in the UK or Europe who is offering the type of service offered by Todd Fletcher at the Sonic Workshop?

I have zero diy skills, but am interested in all of the panels, and wondered if there is anyone who could make them up for me.

polyroy · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:35 am Post subject:

I'd like to give a go at the boards, but certain ones like the sequencer, will be abit more troublesome for me so i'm wondering the same as Reality Checkpoint!

iopop · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:45 am Post subject:

The sequencer panel are not that bad. At least not if speaking in terms of source / trimming / matching / soldering components. I'd say its the easiest one of them all.

The programmer might be intimidating though, I have yet to find out.

otherunicorn · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:04 am Post subject:

polyroy · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:08 am Post subject:

Really? Pictures looked quite intimidating from the way that they are all 8 boards are wired together, but fingers crossed it won't be too difficult. I'm going to do the bog first and then see what I feel like doing next!

fluxmonkey · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject:

because of the pcb-mounted pots, the programmer is actually on of the easier sequencer projects to build--minimizes the flying wires, plus solves the physical issue of having to mount the circuitry. go for it

polyroy · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject:

Well i've put in my order for all 3 panels, should be able to pay for them in a few weeks. I hope you all look forward to me filling the build thread up with questions w00t

negativspace · Posted: Sat May 28, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject:

Ordered & paid for one of each... and don't be surprised if I order another set. Haven't made my final decision on that yet. hihi

bluedonkey · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:50 am Post subject:

ordered and paid for a marsh panel

rico loverde · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:04 pm Post subject:

is this the correct address to send payment: modularatgmaildotcommmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Edit to keep spam bot away

frozenkore · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:12 pm Post subject:

rico loverde · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:20 pm Post subject:

Thanx frozencore!

rico loverde · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:25 pm Post subject:

Had some issues with the previous attempt, money should be there now for 1 bog panel. Thanx monopoly!

frozenkore · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject:

widdly · Posted: Sun May 29, 2011 9:51 pm Post subject:

mono-poly · Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 11:43 am Post subject:

I haven't updated the orders for about a week.
Will do it before the weekend.

JP · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 10:55 am Post subject:

pcb's arrived, knobs arrived, raring to go smile

Rod Serling Fan Club · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 1:35 pm Post subject:

Zthee announcing he won’t be doing panels anymore made me decide to keep my “SWAMP” and I will get MARSH. I’m still on the fence about the BOG as it has a lot of overlap to the panel I just etched. So put me down for 1 MARSH and I will think a bit on the BOG…

chocolatyshatner · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject:

Sent order and payment for 1 Marsh and 1 Bog.

JP · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:47 pm Post subject:

This might be a dumb question considering I already ordered, but these are designed to fit in a standard 19" rack are they? From what I understand they are only 16". Is that right? Anyone considered how to make it play well with a rack system? Big ears?

richard · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 2:49 pm Post subject:

paid for 1 x MARSH

otherunicorn · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 5:19 pm Post subject:

richard · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 7:44 pm Post subject:

rack ears are easily attached.

but less easily purchased!

otherunicorn · Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:54 pm Post subject:

Pfurmel · Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 2:38 am Post subject:

mono-poly · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:35 am Post subject:

Orderlist updated.
Let me know if something is wrong there.

rico loverde · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:59 am Post subject:

I paid for a panel last week and still don't see my name on the list

mono-poly · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:20 am Post subject:

fixed

rico loverde · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:24 am Post subject:

Am I the second Richard w a BOG? Thank mono-poly?

mono-poly · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:33 am Post subject:

Malekko · Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:47 am Post subject:

I can offer knob sets (50 knobs) for 65.00 shipped within the US, these are ones we get made for us and are better quality than the Small bear ones, they have a full brass insert so if you tighten it, they dont strip out.

Rod Serling Fan Club · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:50 am Post subject:

otherunicorn · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 5:43 pm Post subject:

Rod Serling Fan Club · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 7:46 pm Post subject:

I thought that particular pcb was only for sale if you bought a best of panel?

Any chance you are going to be releasing a smooth/stepped generator pcb in the future?

negativspace · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:02 pm Post subject:

Ignore the part of the web page that says it's only available as part of the set, and do not ignore the part of the web page where it's listed at $30 on its own. hihi

otherunicorn · Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject:

Rod Serling Fan Club · Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 11:03 am Post subject:

jooks · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 11:46 am Post subject:

Ordered and paid for 1 BOG and 1 MARSH love

fluxmonkey · Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 2:48 pm Post subject:

ordered and paid for the CGS PCBs for my Marsh & Bog. yep, it's a chunk of change, but Ken always has a sizable investment of boards on the shelf--the sooner he recoups some of that investment, the sooner he's able to turn around and make new goodies available to us.

http://www.cgs.synth.net/pcb/bestofcgs.html

can't wait.

bbob

magman · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:04 am Post subject:

Paid for 1 x MARSH.

I expect it will be next month before I can order the PCB set though (spent too much on Synth DIY this month anyway).

Magman

otherunicorn · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 5:46 am Post subject:

magman · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:17 am Post subject:

theabsent · Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2011 6:23 am Post subject:

Paid for the panel and pcbs. Let's see if this will be impossible mission with my timetable...

Anyone building these with 3.5mm jacks?

kollo · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:46 am Post subject:

paid for 1x MARSH & 1x BOG

andrewF · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:17 am Post subject:

otherunicorn · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:21 am Post subject:

krisp14u · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:56 am Post subject:

I looked at doing mine in 3.5mm jacks but glad I went Nanas
I was going to use these

http://uk.farnell.com/pro-signal/mj-073h/socket-3-5mm-jack-3pole/dp/12 67396

303monkey · Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:06 pm Post subject:

1 BOG & 1 MARSH for me. Boba Fett

Sorry I will make payment monday. Boba Fett

303monkey · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 11:33 am Post subject:

Payment sent.

Standing by.

Boba Fett

JP · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 12:45 pm Post subject:

So anyone planning or already doing component sets, or at least a list I can just order?

miditerranean · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:38 pm Post subject:

miditerranean · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject:

Anyone received their group boards from CGS yet? I haven't but I'm assuming they'll ship once the CGS09 is back in stock. Pretty excited for this build! I'm going to use the BOG primarily for live gigs where I don't want to bring the big rig out.

GeneralBigBag · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:00 pm Post subject:

Put me down for 2x BOG and 1x Marsh

JP · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject:

JP · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:10 pm Post subject:

cosmic-gang · Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject:

payment sent for 1x BOG + 1x Marsh

franzschuier · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:00 am Post subject:

otherunicorn · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject:

Rod Serling Fan Club · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:28 pm Post subject:

Paid for 1 BOG and 1 MARSH
Thanks to everyone involved!

widdly · Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:31 pm Post subject:

I paid for a bog and a marsh. This will bring it to four panels of awesome for me. Woot!