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LPHovercraft
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 Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 5:48 am Post subject: AudioGL: Apparently what Tron synthesizes with. |
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Instead of sleeping, I decided I'd surf the net all night and see what I could find (besides porn). I stumbled upon what has to be one of the most compelling pieces of music software I've ever seen.
AudioGL.
It sounded nice, but it's nothing special until around 7:48, where he demonstrates it's automation system. My jaw hit the floor so hard, I thought I'd broke it (my jaw and the floor). Seriously. Check it out. |
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Wow. Yeah. Some stuff Im not crazy about, but 3D visualization of modulation waves and signal flow is incredible!!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:44 am Post subject: |
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| This is an incredible accomplishment. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:07 am Post subject: |
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| Amazing, I really hope this comes out one day |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 9:14 am Post subject: |
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Nuts. Fucking Nuts.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Amazing, but I cannot dedicate my life to quite that much automation...ever. |
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LPHovercraft
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at it again, I have to admit that I'm a little overwhelmed by it. I mean, Max/MSP is already so complicated I get lost. I'm not sure I'd be able to handle this thing.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject: |
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This is much easier than Max/MSP.
All the basic building blocks have been made for you already.
The only thing I see that would need getting used to is the automation environment. It is still a basic modular system with fairly high level objects but a twist on organization and layout.
It sounds better than Max/MSP though. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Yes amazing. I'd like to think this guy will get funding easily based on what he already has + the future potential. If he ends up having to do a kickstarter campaign, I'll be supporting for sure. |
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| Hi5 wrote: | This is much easier than Max/MSP.
All the basic building blocks have been made for you already.
The only thing I see that would need getting used to is the automation environment. It is still a basic modular system with fairly high level objects but a twist on organization and layout.
It sounds better than Max/MSP though. |
Well, I think I'm primarily intimidated by the automation section. I'm still wrapping my brain around his exceedingly clever demonstration with one parallel processed oscillator. I'm beginning to really get it the more I think about it, but the amount of work it must have taken him to edit all those modulations is scary. Perhaps there are some automation tools that he hasn't revealed yet? 
Oh, and I also thought it sounded better than Max/MSP. In fact, it sounds better than a lot of soft synths I've heard. I wonder what's going on with that? You think maybe it's possible to use audio-rate control signals in it? That's one reason u-he's ACE sounds so good. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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| LPHovercraft wrote: | I'm beginning to really get it the more I think about it, but the amount of work it must have taken him to edit all those modulations is scary. Perhaps there are some automation tools that he hasn't revealed yet?
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It really just looks like NI's envelope editors on steroids. I hope that there's some copy/past n-amount option so you can just create one 4 bar automation pattern and copy it n-times. I also wonder what the time bar at the top of the screen is about.
I would pay to be a beta tester. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:16 pm Post subject: |
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Definitely looks pretty.
But what is so special about the automation?
Is it how it's displayed?
In that sense I thought it was cool because you can visualize the X and Y automation with one line.
The Z automation I don't get. It is essentially the time domain, right?
Can it speed up and slow down each Z automation line independently?
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It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with 3D automation would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to zoom in and out and scroll back and forth in Ableton Live. With 3D you'd have to rotate the shit around constantly, and zoom, and right and left, then rotate some more so you can see it from the right angle.
"I can't see the Automation clearly, there is something behind it."
I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can use it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:25 pm Post subject: |
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| megaohm wrote: | Definitely looks pretty.
But what is so special about the automation?
Is it how it's displayed?
In that sense I thought it was cool because you can visualize the X and Y automation with one line.
The Z automation I don't get. It is essentially the time domain, right?
Can it speed up and slow down each Z automation line independently? |
I have no idea. Ideally, whoever is doing this will get some funding and be able to answer these questions (I invited him here to answer questions, but I haven't heard anything yet). I would hope that you could run the Z automations at different speeds, but you could also fake that by just using polyrhythms. Not very elegant, though. |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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At 2:38 he says "You can create tempo changes, lots of tempo changes". That could be Z.  |
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| Johnisfaster wrote: | It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with 3D automation would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to zoom in and out and scroll back and forth in Ableton Live. With 3D you'd have to rotate the shit around constantly, and zoom, and right and left, then rotate some more so you can see it from the right angle.
"I can't see the Automation clearly, there is something behind it."
I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can use it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour. |
Okay, don't flame me too hard for this, but:
It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with patch cords would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to punch in and out and route back and forth in Ableton Live. With patch cords you'd have to plug shit in constantly, and unplug, and it's basically mono, then plug some more so you can record it into your DAW.
"I can't play it polyphonically, there is only one voice."
I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can afford it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour.
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