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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'll take that drink....

yeah, I guess I was very excited by the demo, and just didn't want to see the guy attacked. I just think it looks amazing - I think that the reason why people who defer to hardware, especially analog modulars, do so is to some degree because of the computer interface. this just looked so new - not only in terms of the interface, but in terms of the way you could change sound drastically in real time. I'm seeing some real hope for computer synthesis - as far as having 'real' instruments to play - aalto is great, imo, and this is just simply amazing.

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Nelson Baboon wrote:
didn't get that you were joking Of course, if you were, that makes my response incorrect. sorry.


It's okay. Sometimes sarcasm doesn't translate well, so it was probably a bad idea on my part.

Sorry about all the confusion. Hopefully I can buy you drink someday.

Cheers! Guinness ftw!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Nelson Baboon wrote:
I'll take that drink....

yeah, I guess I was very excited by the demo, and just didn't want to see the guy attacked. I just think it looks amazing - I think that the reason why people who defer to hardware, especially analog modulars, do so is to some degree because of the computer interface. this just looked so new - not only in terms of the interface, but in terms of the way you could change sound drastically in real time. I'm seeing some real hope for computer synthesis - as far as having 'real' instruments to play - aalto is great, imo, and this is just simply amazing.



Agreed. I have this fantasy of using something like the Emulator touch surface or Oblong's g‑speak SOE with AudioGL Minority Report meets wicked synthetic soundscapes! Man, it would be so fun to play and just as much fun for people to watch, especially if you got really good with it. This seems like the kind of software that you could actually become a virtuoso with, you know? Like conducting a synthesizer orchestra or something. That would be remarkable. Of course, I see no reason why you couldn't also use it to control one or more modular systems as well! MY ASS IS BLEEDING

I'm pretty surprised that the DSP is from scratch. I would have used a library like CLAM or Julius O. Smith's Synthesis ToolKit, but I'm really psyched that he's using audio rate control signals for automation. I think it sounds noticeably better than a lot of other softsynths I've recently heard, with the obvious exceptions of Aalto and ACE.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Om

Use a Kinect to motion-track the waveform of whatever on an oscilloscope and pipe that in to AGL as automation - then send it to Silent Way...

Sorry to be rude but... fap fap fap...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Man that is really impressive. I really hope that this sees the light of day in a public release, developer deserves some good funding.

What AGL said about 3D interfaces I can relate to. While my experiences have largely been limited to SketchUp, when the initial disorientation wore off I found the workspace really smooth and intuitive. The idea of working with sound in that way is... fascinating thumbs up

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This reminds me of how I used to work in Buzz. Kinda makes me want to break that buggy piece of software out.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This looks amazing. I definitely think it's the future now kind of thing.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I would use this as my main host eek!

The automation alone...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Want woah
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Really Cool. applause kind of reminds me of this. http://www.jasuto.com/home/
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This stuff really blew me away, the amount of effort that went into that demo track is sick! And what a sick track!

I've been doing similar stuff in Renoise just for fun, a sequencer heavily focused on automation is a good idea!

Also, EVERY daw should have some sort of modular instrument / device arranger, it's IMPOSSIBLE to get an overview of what's going on in most of my ableton live songs! d'oh!

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

WOW. Just, wow. It would be great to be able to use this as a VST in Live, but honestly I think I'd be willing to work with it instead of Live. I don't think it'd take me long not to miss the hardware-derivative interfaces of other DAWs.

I'd be curious to know how it would integrate with hardware units like the MKS-80 or JD-990. Ableton doesn't seem to support sysex in a way that allows apps like MIDIquest to work as a VST, which is really a shame. It's pretty cool to think about being able to automate all the parameters on my mks-80 using a tool like this (though the rekon audio plug is great with ableton, it's the exception rather than the rule--and this automation interface looks unbelievably cool). Please let us know when you crank up the kickstarter campaign. I suspect you'd have a lot of support here.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

LPHovercraft wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:
It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with 3D automation would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to zoom in and out and scroll back and forth in Ableton Live. With 3D you'd have to rotate the shit around constantly, and zoom, and right and left, then rotate some more so you can see it from the right angle.

"I can't see the Automation clearly, there is something behind it."

I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can use it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour.


Okay, don't flame me too hard for this, but:

It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with patch cords would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to punch in and out and route back and forth in Ableton Live. With patch cords you'd have to plug shit in constantly, and unplug, and it's basically mono, then plug some more so you can record it into your DAW.

"I can't play it polyphonically, there is only one voice."

I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can afford it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour.

razz


I don't know if it was a part of the joke but, judging from the video, it seems the demonstration is just about showing how incredibly powerful the enviroment is, only with one voice. I've noticed at least one place where he strikes a chord on his midi-keyboard when testing the oscillator, at the very beginning of the patching demo.

This leads me to believe that this software is far more deep than any of the currently released videos reveal.

This + ableton live via rewire = MY ASS IS BLEEDING

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2011 1:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks again for all of the kind words regarding the project. I'm happy to see there's a good deal of interest.

Regarding the kickstarter idea, I'm holding onto it as a last resort, my preference is towards private funding. I'd like to have the supporters be people who I've met face to face. Still, if it comes to the kickstarter route, I'll definitely give you all a heads up!

Midi is pretty straightforward: click a parameter, enter in its controller number, or, twiddle the knob on your controller a little bit, and it's linked up. You can link multiple parameters to one knob/slider.

Sysex I can do, but I find that the issue with Sysex is not software, but the Midi format itself. In my experience, the Midi system gets bogged down when you're working with it. (My experience being automating a Juno-106 / MKS-7)
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm totally blown away. Thanks to the OP for turning us onto this.

AGL wrote:
Regarding the kickstarter idea, I'm holding onto it as a last resort, my preference is towards private funding. I'd like to have the supporters be people who I've met face to face. Still, if it comes to the kickstarter route, I'll definitely give you all a heads up!


FWIW if it came down to Kickstarter funding I'd happily contribute to help support the development and release of Audio GL, even thought I'm a Mac user and likely couldn't use the software for some time -- and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.

In any case, I really hope you can make this project happen. Best of luck to you. It's utterly brilliant, and deserving of support and success.

And your programming on your track was seriously sick, too. BT just crapped his pants a little.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2011 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

hednoize wrote:
FWIW if it came down to Kickstarter funding I'd happily contribute to help support the development and release of Audio GL, even thought I'm a Mac user and likely couldn't use the software for some time -- and I'm sure I'm not alone in that.


Your certainly not! But then, I'd buy a PC just to run this!

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