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DO NOT SUPPORT PLAN B WITH PURCHASES CUSTOMERS RIPPED OFF |
MrDys
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| felix wrote: | | I do know of 2 or 3 people through twitter who have received their M32's. *Something* is happening at least. |
I was contacted by BCM last week informing me that I was on the waiting list for a M32, what is my address and how would I like to pay for the module. A bit confused (since I had already paid Peter in Feb), I responded and then got a phone call from BCM.
The gist is that Peter handed over the non-paid waiting list names/e-mails to BCM to fulfill at their hearts' content. All pre-paid M32s are being handled by Peter. Somehow Peter didn't see that I had already paid for this frickin thing and I got stuck in the pile of non-paid waiting list names. BCM can't do anything to fulfill my order, because they won't/can't get my money out of Peter. BCM sent my name back to Peter to hopefully fulfill my order. Haven't heard anything since.
If there's anyone with M32s, I'd have to say that they're coming from BCM. |
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Kent
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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MrDys,
You are not the only one that this has happened to. I'm sure Roger @ BCM is shaking his head and wondering WTF. 
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richard
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:26 pm Post subject: |
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45 pages and counting, phew
IMO what BCM should do is obvious
drop plan B like a hot potato
this community is too small for them to behave like its "just business". I don't think they have any direct responsibilty for the current situation but effectively they are functioning as represtitives for a company that is behaving most unethically, and no doubt illegally too
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A Dingleberry Monstrosity
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| Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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wow, looks like word is spreading like fire.
Peter will still most likely not care and do nothing about it.
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BugBrand
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I just got back from working in Spain - two people organised workshop events there for me and both of them were interested in Eurorack modules - one had a small doepfer system and one was looking to get one. Neither is particularly reading/writing on online forums but BOTH had heard about the PlanB shits... So word is definitely spreading.
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Mr White
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:34 am Post subject: |
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paypal:
yesterday I received a mail by paypal to inform me that the claim on the plan b payement has resolved to my favor! 
they proudly rescued $0,95 from the seller, but, if I feel he owes me something more they will take measures against him limithing his account! 
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richard
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:59 am Post subject: |
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strange, Paypal decided in my favour 2 weeks ago and i didn't even get the 95 cents - i could have bought like 2 minijack plugs with that!
i never knew how feeble paypal was, so much for buyer protection.... I'll know better in future anyway, always and only use a credit card for the little one-man operations, because anything can happen.
Funnily enough the last sentence Peter wrote to me (before he became "Jennifer") was about George Bush:
"how in the holy hell could one man do such global damage...in eight years? mind boggling"
funny eh?
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Mr White wrote: | paypal:
yesterday I received a mail by paypal to inform me that the claim on the plan b payement has resolved to my favor!
they proudly rescued $0,95 from the seller, but, if I feel he owes me something more they will take measures against him limithing his account!
unfuckinbelievable |
95 cents??? 
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MrWHite, make sure to let them know ASAP that he owes you way more, it currently looks like he's milking the paypal and withdrawing money immediately, leaving no room for claims.
get them to limit that fucking account NOW! 
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:46 pm Post subject: |
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| the ear sites paypal is atleast out of use. |
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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| This thread means nothing without someone pressing theft/grand theft charges. |
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| SynthBaron wrote: | | This thread means nothing without someone pressing theft/grand theft charges. |
oh come on. that is trolling if I have ever seen it.
I agree, someone should, but as stated some have started with various claims, PayPal, CC, Post, etc. This is probably a better thing to do after communicating with the seller fails, but before pressing formal charges.
And if someone presses charges, I wouldn't blame them for sure after all of this madness.
But "this thread is meaningless"?? 
This thread has served as a warning to others. As a last chance for Plan B, as another place to see an example of their promises failing (in case you don't believe the many people who've actually complained). It's served as a place where those who were silenced elsewhere can state their claim.
Even if not a soul presses a single charge, I'd say there's quite a bit of meaning in these many bitter pages.
Unfortunately.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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I filed complaints with the FTC and Attorney General... It took 5 minutes and I would encourage others to do the same. I haven't received my module, my money, any replies to my emails and I already assume that I have a special place on the Adam Henry list so I figure I had nothing to really lose.
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| Muff Wiggler wrote: | | SynthBaron wrote: | | This thread means nothing without someone pressing theft/grand theft charges. |
oh come on. that is trolling if I have ever seen it. |
eh .. go easy on him, he had a negative customer service experience way before most of the people on this thread did.
not as badly, though. he did actually get his oscillator.
"means nothing" is a pretty harsh assesment, but i think he was honestly encouraging people to do just that. |
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Muff Wiggler
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:58 am Post subject: |
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i also encourage everyone who got ripped off to pursue legal action
but without saying that their comments here mean nothing
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Mr White
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| jonkull wrote: | | I filed complaints with the FTC and Attorney General... It took 5 minutes and I would encourage others to do the same. I haven't received my module, my money, any replies to my emails and I already assume that I have a special place on the Adam Henry list so I figure I had nothing to really lose. |
I dont know if the FTC would protect also a non-american customer.
but if it will I definitely will file the claim.
maybe I'll need some assistance doing that, if you want to help me I will love it! |
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Mr White
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:14 am Post subject: |
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thanks jonkull,
complaint filed.
claimed by my VISA too.
..a couple of days before someone here told me that if I was gone by car to planb to rescue my money I would come back only with hopes and promises by Peter...
definitely I dont think so.
I'm really a good and quiet person, indeed, but I'm sure that if I spoke to Peter personally, I came back with something for sure (maybe its TV). :gun:
so for all of you that can do it, take your car and head to your money. |
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