Muff's Modules & More

evil wizards · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:08 pm Post subject: Modcan Euro?

I saw some module illustrations on the rack planner from modcan that included the vcdo. I'm curious if anyone has any information on these.

JohnLRice · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:16 pm Post subject:

Yes!

Read the whole "Touch Sequencer: thread:
http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=33713

reignbear · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject:

I was thinking the other day there should be a seperate thread for these as the info was burried in the touch sequencer thread...

here is some info from there, these all look really exciting!

reignbear · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject:

that triple ocs sounds DOES sound LUSH Drunken Homer Simpson

wiresandstraps · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:23 pm Post subject:

Where we these be available for purchase? Through modcan, or AH? I have my eye on a triple osc.

savage_vomit · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:27 pm Post subject:

ah excellent i just posted asking for a new thread. Hopefully Mr. "Synthmaker" will join us?

savage_vomit · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:30 pm Post subject:

+1 for the Triple Osc!

JohnLRice · Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:36 pm Post subject:

MindMachine · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:20 am Post subject:

WOW - this will be really nice. I am in for a VCDO. I never bought in the other format(s) due to the power costs. If I can just plug inot my Euro rig - sweet.

What is the Dual Wave?

parasitk · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:25 am Post subject:

JohnLRice · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:27 am Post subject:

Drumdrumdrumdrum · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:14 am Post subject:

Whats with the Modcan website? I haven't been able to access it for days.

This set could be a real alternative to a Macbeth Dual VCO. Modcan quality, space and versitlity +

Mitchk1989 · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:36 am Post subject:

dan_k · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:37 am Post subject:

[quote="Drumdrumdrumdrum"]Whats with the Modcan website? I haven't been able to access it for days.

No problems for me, I just opened it right now. Maybe flush your browser cache or try a different browser.

Or do you have some malware that's redirecting your searches?

Drumdrumdrumdrum · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:47 am Post subject:

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:11 am Post subject:

the modcan triple and any macbeth have nothing to do with each other besides both being exceptionally well made. the triple osc is entirely digital. it tracks like a bloodhound. all these oscs have optional built in semitone quantizers. there are a number of videos and things in the 5u area of all of the vcos. they mostly don't cover the same territory that other companies are offering.

and the site is most definitely working. as you can guess i am there a lot hihi

Mitchk1989 · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:12 am Post subject:

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:22 am Post subject:

here is a youtube search of the 3vco. that way you can get an idea of what it sounds like in the wild. not really any straight demos in there i don't think but it's character is captured. i am happy to shoot further video of any of these modules. i don't do demos though. just patches. i can keep it simple if desired. try searching around first of there is something you want as it may well have been covered by a number of us.

Mitchk1989 · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:27 am Post subject:

ok dude, here's a question: out of the three modcan digital oscillator modules, which one do you think gives you the most 'modcan'-like experience? That is - which of these is the least like anything currently in euro?

parasitk · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:34 am Post subject:

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:37 am Post subject:

none is more modcan than another from one angle. they together make up the modcan modern oscillator compliment (plus the miniwave). sort of like voltron. i cannot honestly answer as to which is least like the current offerings in euro. from my view, it appears there are scores of available oscillator designs in euro. there is no lacking in the community. and of course i haven't used even half of them. the only system i am extremely familiar with is the modcan. rather than approaching from what they aren't like, it might be more helpful to examine what they are like unto themselves. site descriptions as well as dozens of videos can describe that to you better than i can with words in a post. i am sure that doesn't answer your question but i dont know that i could in the first place.

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:42 am Post subject:

and to me the real power of modcan isn't each or any individual modules but how the system functions together to make an instrument...like any 'system'. it is partly functional and partly aesthetic etc. i am not saying to go out and buy a whole system but i am saying the 'modcan experience' won't happen from adding a single digital oscillator or whatever.

parasitk · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:50 am Post subject:

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:52 am Post subject:

they don't actually have any of it though as none of these designs are available. i am fairly sure the touch seq will be first but it may be a second before the other ones come out.

parasitk · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:58 am Post subject:

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:01 am Post subject:

sorry, didn't mean to come off so serious. i was trying to be informative lol

my typing probably rarely ends up being documented forever on the internet as i actually intend.

SlayerBadger!

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:02 am Post subject:

i don't know if freaky bach approves of digital oscillators which may have some affect on the gravity of my posts.

Mitchk1989 · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:16 am Post subject:

I don't know if freaky bach approves of ANYTHING.

Just from the modcan site info + demos I'd say the VCDO is the most interesting to me, and it's now in the running against the cyclebox and long fabled possibly vapourware malphonic subsystem (which would also be competition for the triple VCO)

dude · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 11:38 am Post subject:

bliss000 · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:18 pm Post subject:

So the 3VCO is digital as well.

Is the 3VCO DSP based or DCO? Also, are the two CV in's for Osc 2/3 Exp or Lin?

joey · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 2:19 pm Post subject:

Looks like there is a VCDO in my future...

bphenix · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 5:15 pm Post subject:

flashheart · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:22 pm Post subject:

Can I just ask that all the modules should be 14HP ...

NV · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 6:53 pm Post subject:

bphenix · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:48 pm Post subject:

I know little of the Cyclebox, but one dandy feature of the VCDO is the cv wavetable feature. Great fun in modulating the wavetable that you are performing FM the aforementioned ratio-mated phased-locked FM on.

bphenix · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject:

For the record, while I want Modcan to be successful, I oppose their move into the Euro format. Every other manufacture that has gone Euro from another 5u tends to get consumed by the euro crack babies and neglect their 5u roots.

I kid, of course.

Mostly.

parasitk · Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 10:13 pm Post subject:

ignatius · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 1:52 am Post subject:

Monobass · Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:28 am Post subject:

Entrainer · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:51 pm Post subject:

Hey Euro folk.

SandyB said once that Modcan swings -2.5V to +2.5V.

Something like the Maths is -10V to +10V, I think the
Envelator has the same range.

Then we have Cwejman, which I pretty sure is -5V to +5V.

I'm thinking we should petition Bruce to adapt the voltage
if possible for the 3 oscillators and the CV Recorder.

At least to -5V to +5V.

Otherwise you'll need to put attenuators between everything,
taking twice as many cables and making more "mess". And
of course you need to pay for these attenuators and cables
as well, so there's a hidden price involved if it stays
-2.5V to + 2.5V.

dude · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:08 pm Post subject:

that's not entirely the case. some things are 0-5, the cv recorder can natively take -5 to +5v on its inputs. i agree it is a consideration that will hopefully get addressed. the problem is that there is no standard in euro so hoping bruce will adhere to something other than his standard gets a little murky. the vcos generally output -2.5 to +2.5v but not always, the vcdo has an onboard bipolar vca on its output so that sort of changes everything in its case. as for lfos, the quad can be anything really -5to +5 or 0to+5 or 0 to -5. anyway it is certainly something to be aware of and think about in regards to systems/intersystems patching. in terms of 'needing attenutaors', that is already the case for any sort of dynamic modulation other than 'full swing'. so i would say that euro (and any other format) already needs attens or more ideally vcas between everything to avail the full modular experience. the euro modcan would be no different. in some ways i think this is much more of a topic of the current wild west state of euro voltage expectations than anything bruce does or doesn't do. any way/range he chooses to use couldn't possibly please everybody or work flawlessly with all manufacturers.

synthmaker · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 3:45 pm Post subject:

The Modcan Euro will use 10V range for CV inputs
and signal outputs will be +/-5V.
This means that if using +/-5V as a CV voltage the associated function control (knob) for the CV jack would be set to mid point to offset the negative CV.
The CV jacks and pots are summed together for each of the functions.
This way it should all play nice with the rest of the format.

Bruce

Funky40 · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 4:18 pm Post subject:

Entrainer · Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:37 pm Post subject:

dodecabilly · Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:48 am Post subject:

can we hope for a Phase Shift/Timbre Mod in euro...?

Scaff · Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 4:20 am Post subject:

Do you have any news about the release of the VCDO and CV-Recorder?

apertureburn · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:14 pm Post subject:

would like to know too if there are any updates. looking in to the dual wave and it really seems cool.

apfEID · Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2011 3:15 pm Post subject:

whoa, was not aware of this, I've spent some time with Scooter's Modcan and it was amazing, so I hope I can fit at least a VCDO into my system at some point... nanners

synthmaker · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:57 am Post subject:

Getting closer to releasing some more Euro modules.
I have updated the web site to include the new additions
http://www.modcan.com/EuroRack/Euro_main.html
Distribution and price are still TBD. Hopefully if all goes well they will be available to ship in Jan-Febish. I will be working on the CV recorder
after these are released.

Thanks
Bruce

Veqtor · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:19 am Post subject:

I'm mostly looking forward to the cv recorder, I think that's where you'll get most customers considering it's a revered module and there's no overlap with any existing module in euro.

ignatius · Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 3:31 am Post subject:

thanks for the update Bruce!

komyta · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 9:01 am Post subject:

I'm definitely in for a VCDO. applause

Chuck E. Jesus · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2011 11:12 am Post subject:

that FMVDO sounds very, very nice...

lombrose · Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject:

Any idea on the price of the modules by now? Guinness ftw!

SunSpots · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 12:14 am Post subject:

Dunno about retail price, but the FMVDO sounds extremely good, as does the triple Osc. I have a feeling people will overlook the triple, but it's super sexy for bass.

Touch Seq, FMVDO, Triple Osc - and Quad LFO if it comes out next year after the CVrecorder. Just gather up all your money and send it to Bruce right now. That's the only reasonable conclusion.

Oh and it sounds like Bruce is SUPER close to sending these babies off to the retailers smile

SunSpots

peripatitis · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:13 am Post subject:

It seems though that only the triple oscillator is band-limited.
Does this mean that the rest are going to be aliasing ?

peripatitis · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:15 am Post subject:

The triple osc though does sound great...

lombrose · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 8:19 am Post subject:

thermionicjunky · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:34 am Post subject:

lorenzovektor · Posted: Thu Mar 01, 2012 1:03 pm Post subject:

yum, triple VCO, this looks promising..

ianross · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:52 am Post subject:

any

on the triple osc yet?

Entrainer · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:16 am Post subject:

dude · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:29 am Post subject:

the 3vco can be huge. i won't use the word fat. hihi

it has some weird sync circuitry that sounds amazing, can sync to any wave at any freq. triple sync ftw. it is the best sync i have come across. its an amazing lfo too.

Entrainer · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:22 am Post subject:

Ah, thanks for the feedback DUDE. Think I'm going to make a go at it.
I do miss the perfect index ratios of the VCDO though but Cypher
(FXP/DCAM) does that sort of thing really well. And you can turn on
oversampling 4X so I've been able to achieve similar results.

Triple Osc, Dual Wave

Dick don't fail me now. fap fap fap...

(NSFW)

fiero · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject:

im considering getting the triple osc , is compact and sounds good

synthmaker · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:15 pm Post subject:

Here is a preview of the new Oscillators in their finished form.
Apologies for the iphone photo. They will be available hopefully
by the end of March at Analogue Haven. The price is still TBD
but shooting for around $385 per. Please check
http://www.modcan.com/EuroRack/Euro_main.html
for MP3 demos and more info.

Thanks
Bruce

Matos · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:25 pm Post subject:

Mamma Mia! Those look superb. The dual wave and the fmvdo sound delicious. It's a great year for euro.

REwire · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:52 pm Post subject:

WOW YAH!!! I want all three! MY ASS IS BLEEDING

SunSpots · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject:

That price is amazing... If you're in Euro and not buying these Modcans while they're at AH you're missing the boat. There's something for everyone here... or 3 for everyone! lol

Microscopial · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject:

damn ive got a lot of cases to shift applause

dude · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:30 pm Post subject:

hiawog · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject:

fuck yeah! i've been waiting for these.

JohnLRice · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:24 pm Post subject:

JohnLRice · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:30 pm Post subject:

dan_k · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:31 pm Post subject:

Congratulations Bruce, nice to see these close to delivery.

Really looking forward to the CV recorder, and whatever comes after that.

Dual FS, Quad LFO (hint hint) SlayerBadger!

ignatius · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject:

FMVDO! (VCDO)

sweet.

Entrainer · Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:42 pm Post subject:

DVDO, four capital letters...

ModCan!

synthmaker · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:30 am Post subject:

Interesting that you guys are picking up on the font.
I chose the fonts based on what seemed the most legible given the reduced
panel size and increased density of Euro.
My standard fonts just looked a little weedy at the lower point sizes that were needed to jam all the stuff in. I gotta say I like how the Euro designs turned out and fonts look very "crisp" and easily read on the metal photo panels.
Certainly a lot less work than the painted and silkscreen B series panels.
The reason the price is quite a bit less than my other formats is down to the economics of mass production and Jacks,panels and boards etc are cheaper
and with higher volumes allows boards to be assembled by robots.

Bruce

norbert smith · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:58 am Post subject:

congrats man and good luck with euro format

what can I sell to purchase one of these mmmmm applause

dansna · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 5:37 am Post subject:

the samples on the modcan site sound awesome - definitely have to pick up the fmvdo and triple osc!

Tomek Mirt · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:09 am Post subject:

can you have too much digital oscillators? Hope not.
Rockin' Banana!

and

i think no one asked: when in schneiders? hihi

lombrose · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject:

Leoespejo · Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject:

MMMM Don't know if someone already asked.

HOW MUCH !!!!!

Fuck i just saw Mr Modcan's post answering my question: "about $385"

mm

visible cow · Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:

Wow, I've been listening to fmvdo samples all afternoon. I need this module. I'm considering shaking up my modular and replacing my oscs with the modcan offerings. Also, planning on finally picking up the Touch Sequencer. My fingers crossed for the end of March and $385!

wbelote · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:22 pm Post subject:

The features, build, and demos have got me very excited to get some Modcon into my racks.

Mitchk1989 · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject:

the VC AHDBDSR looks cool. Any plans to euro-ize that?

SunSpots · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:16 pm Post subject:

What Euro NEEDS is the Quad LFO. I wouldn't even mind if it was a Dual Digital LFO with a gate per LFO (instead of the shared gate). but no matter how Bruce does it, there just isn't a replacement for that module in the Euro world. There is CV recording, but the Quad LFO has no comparison from what I've seen for the price.

PS: Triple Osc sounds just as good in Euro. smile

Drumdrumdrumdrum · Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:35 pm Post subject:

Just studying the FMVDO. Digital quadrature LFO wavetable AND SYNC! All I can say is...................

Wow!

ignatius · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:03 am Post subject:

ignatius · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:07 am Post subject:

SunSpots · Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:22 am Post subject:

ianross · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject:

Is the triple osc all analog or digital vcos?

Enginear · Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject:

tonnu · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:16 am Post subject:

really torn between FMVDO and Dual Wave

but considering i'll be getting e350 in the future, maybe FMVDO is the way to go

but ... the font ... eek!! zombie

goiks · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:08 pm Post subject:

i am very much hoping that the release of these modules coincides nicely with my tax return.

lombrose · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:11 pm Post subject:

haima · Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject:

Any plans to make the 5U digital delay module in Eurorack format?

I was going to buy the delay in 5U, but I've decided to go Eurorack for my main modular... my 5U is just for DIY stuff now.

goiks · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject:

hey, does anybody know exactly how the osc 2 and 3 cv inputs work on the triple osc? are they 1v/oct? are they offsets from osc1 or absolute?

SunSpots · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:22 pm Post subject:

I believe osc 2 and 3 are 1v/oct (from what I've done with them they seem to be). They are either quantized to osc 1, and you can detune them somewhat manually, or you can switch to have one of them detuned with the algo. or to have both deturned with the algo. That's where the super large sound comes from. I enjoy tuned and detuned though. I like setting the osc's to different chords and playing them this way. If you have enough CV sequencing you can program/sequence out chord changes that are very pretty and then filter it with... say a MMF1 > smile

and come up with a very beautiful sound progression.

Although, when I do this it takes 3 CV rows from my sequencer, and I'm sequencer light right now... then again the Vermona midi/cv came in yesterday mwa hahahahah. Going to do this tonight... may record something simple...

spots

SunSpots · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:23 pm Post subject:

Oh and I should mention they only seem to go up two octaves above the osc1. I'm NOT sure if you can go higher with voltage control, but on the panel they only go up 2 oct. I have found this to be no problem.

spots

BTByrd · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject:

I have much love for the quad LFO in the large format.

I'd really be excited by a Euro version of the flanger.

synthmaker · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 5:43 pm Post subject:

Shameless Plug time

A batch of Modcan Euro FMVDO, DualWave and Triple OSC are on their way to Analogue Haven and should be available to order early next week.

Cheers
Bruce

visible cow · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:06 pm Post subject:

Excellent news! Do you happen to have a confirmed price yet?

dude · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:

synthmaker · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:25 pm Post subject:

haima · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject:

Hey Bruce - any chance you might port the 59 delay to eurorack sometime in the future?

synthmaker · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:10 pm Post subject:

dude · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:14 pm Post subject:

oh wow, i was just thinking how the digi delay should be ported. it is the nicest delay i have ever used. ridiculously fun.

haima · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:16 pm Post subject:

dan_k · Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 9:39 pm Post subject:

Dual FS sweet!!

Where does the CV recorder fit on the horizon? I remember you mentioned you were looking at that after these three VCOs were out the door.

BTByrd · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 8:55 am Post subject:

It's interesting that you'd port the delay and the dual FS next when there are already several delays / FS on the market in Euro. Don't get me wrong... those are both cool modules (I've got the dual FS in Modcan B, and it's awesome - I LOVE it) but it seems like there's already some competition. This is compared say, the CV recorder or the Flanger which there doesn't seem to be anything directly comparable in Euro (at least that I'm aware of).

But whichever modules you want to bring out, in whichever format you want to bring them out, whenever you choose to bring them out... I'm sure you'll sell a boatload of them.

My 1 row of Modcan B (VCDO, Quad LFO/EG, Dual FS, and 4X VCA) comprises some of my favorite modules... and I just picked up the touch sequencer in Euro. I can't wait to try to squeeze some more into my Euro system!

visible cow · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:03 am Post subject:

Ok modcan users, If you were going to buy one of these which would you go for? I'm thinking the vcdo might be the most flexible in my 9u and would complement my z3000's nicely.

If I totally love it I could see getting all three.

thermionicjunky · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:27 am Post subject:

BTByrd · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:33 am Post subject:

thermionicjunky · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:37 am Post subject:

visible cow · Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:41 am Post subject:

Excellent, vcdo it is.

ignatius · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:02 pm Post subject:

getting closer

http://www.analoguehaven.com/modcan/fmvdo/

ianross · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:08 pm Post subject:

cool, I been checking everyday lol

pas · Posted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:11 pm Post subject:

sixtyten · Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:24 am Post subject:

Sweet. FMVDO will be my first oscillator purchase me thinks.

goiks · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:14 am Post subject:

in stock @AH now.

visible cow · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:39 am Post subject:

I have an fmvdo sitting right here....but my case is still with monorocket....no!!!!

mark_snipz · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:09 am Post subject:

Must stop listening to the FMVDO demos...the baby is due in July and we've yet to buy any of the bits associated with a v small person!

Drumdrumdrumdrum · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:40 am Post subject:

sixtyten · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:02 pm Post subject:

Are the panels white or brushed aluminum? It's hard to tell from the pictures. I plan on getting the FMVDO and Dual Wave regardless of the color.

visible cow · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject:

they're aluminum

pas · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:20 pm Post subject:

Just to be certain, these new vco's are 12hp correct? Was under the assumption that modcan euro will be odd widths. The ts is 21 & I could have sworn that these new modules were listed as 13 somewhere, idk...it would be nice to have another odd number manufacturer to match up w/ harvestman in certain rows.

sixtyten · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject:

I think the prototype or development versions were 13hp. The production ones are 12hp.

sixtyten · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:30 pm Post subject:

visible cow · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 8:40 pm Post subject:

yep, definitely 12 hp. It kills me to have it just sitting here with no way to hear it. Someone should write a story about my struggles.

haricots · Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 9:19 pm Post subject:

Nice job Bruce! I have the B series VCDO (in fact it was my first Modcan purchase many years ago) and it is a beautiful oscillator. All Euro users should have one. ModCan!

Clockgate · Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:20 am Post subject:

I have a FMVDO and Triple Osc winging their way to me at this moment.... love

BTByrd · Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 8:46 am Post subject:

If the FMVDO is like the B format VCDO, it does pitched noise in various flavors. I find it more useful than my other noise generators for audio purposes (Noisering aside).

Bacchus · Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2012 9:44 am Post subject:

Can anyone confirm that the FMVDO/VCDO do thru-zero FM?

thermionicjunky · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:58 am Post subject:

synthmaker · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:00 pm Post subject:

BananaPlug · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:19 pm Post subject:

BTByrd · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:16 pm Post subject:

Arcade Sinusoid · Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject:

The FMVDO sounds amazing. Nabbed one Saturday night. Seems pretty feature packed applause

Bacchus · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:40 am Post subject:

emeb · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:27 am Post subject:

Kodama · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject:

Dual Wave and FMVDO on the way.... (hides)

ignatius · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:00 pm Post subject:

thru zero or not the VCDO/FMVDO is one of the best sounding things period.

had to sell my modcan A system long ago.. i've missed the 58a for a long long time.

goiks · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:12 pm Post subject:

best lunchbreak ever today, got the fmvdo. it sounds great, and they've done part of the "work" of getting and controlling the kinds of harmonic fm sounds i like to make/use.

the noise is a huge bonus.
"This is a pseudo-random noise waveform clocked at the NCO frequency. It has several unique characteristics: When the FM Ratio is set to 0, it generates a stepped random voltage. Other settings of FM Ratio generate a linear-interpolation between the random voltages which can be distorted with the FM Ratio and Index CVs, resulting in interesting timber variations."

Bacchus · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject:

Funky40 · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:06 pm Post subject:

hopefully we will see at some time a 4 operator FM VCO from Modcan.......with Thruzero inclouded.
bring it please ! ( i say it since 3 years now i guess hihi

but time is now ready for such thing, doesn´t it ? ))

i´d exchange my modcanB VCOs into euro in no time if the euroVCDO would have the LEDs.
Without the LEDs i have a hard time to decide.
It helps me alots to see what waveforms are dialed in from a modulation source

brickman · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:11 pm Post subject:

Is the whole Modcan lineup going euro ?

crabman75 · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject:

any chance to get them at schneiders? sad banana

Entrainer · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:49 pm Post subject:

ignatius · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:50 pm Post subject:

pas · Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:12 pm Post subject:

[quote="Entrainer"]

synthmaker · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:02 am Post subject:

Thanks for all the love on the FMVDO/VCDO. I must admit we are very proud of that one. Eric Brombaugh did a great job on the DSP wizardry.

A batch will end up at Schneiders closer to the summer.

I don't think I'll be converting the entire Modcan line to Euro because
A/ There already exists a lot of what I offer from other makers.
B/ I would be in my 70's by the time I redesigned 50+ boards and panels.
and Euro will be dead having been replaced by "mind synths" smile

My intention is to mainly offer modules that are not currently represented in Euro (Scanner, CV Recorder, at least to my knowledge) and also my interpretations of standard modular basics that I would consider to be different enough from what is already available (Quad LFO, Digital Delay etc)

I am working on the CV recorder right now and have lots of other conversions in the "pipe". I hope to have a good selection by the fall.

Thanks for the support
Bruce

ignatius · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:15 am Post subject:

that's great news Bruce! thanks for the update.

modcan MY ASS IS BLEEDING

brickman · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:03 am Post subject:

Great news Bruce , thanks !

Please please please make the Digital Delay in Euro !

peripatitis · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:55 am Post subject:

shred · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:18 am Post subject:

Woohoo!! great news Bruce thank you!! w00t

I wonder, looking at the panel differences between the new euro models and the A and B lines, what kinds of changes were made (beside the input/output levels being adapted to play better within the euro world). Looking at the Dual Wave specifically (that's the one I'm most interested in) I can see there is no Blend CV input but a Mix CV input instead and the hi-res button exchanged for a switch. I'm assuming the Mix CV input governs the Mix pot like the Blend does on the A and B lines? Is that accurate?

from the Modcan website: "The Blend control is not just a simple mixer, but is actually a morph function that performs a mathematical linear interpolation between the two waves to produce a third new wave."

sounds yummy twisted

Clockgate · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:22 am Post subject:

dude · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:29 am Post subject:

y'all are in for huge treats! i just picked up my second digi delay and have always been in love with the cv recorder. the dual wave (dvdo) is my favorite vco i have met to date. wonderful stuff.

brickman · Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:49 am Post subject:

visible cow · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:49 am Post subject:

Absolutely loving my fmvdo. I purchased a 4ms vcam, toppobrillo sport modulator and the fmvdo last week and the new possibilities in my 9u are incredible. The fmvdo makes an awesome quadrature lfo.

Quick question. I found the manual but haven't seen any info on waveforms 2-11 other than "2-11-sample based waveforms arranged from simple to complex". Would love to know what they are.

Thanks!

goiks · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:52 am Post subject:

tonnu · Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:56 pm Post subject:

man ... i've really gotta ask, if you could only have ONE of either the Modcan VCDO or the E350 which one would you choose?

(i know they are completely different and one should at least maybe compare E350 with the dual wave? but i really want the VCDO based on the demos ...)

Arcade Sinusoid · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:12 am Post subject:

FMVDO is fantastic. Just recieved it today holy shit! Its been P.E.G and FMVDO for the last 6 hours plus a Guinness ftw!

Best Friday night in a minute!

joey · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:42 am Post subject:

just got the FMVDO today as well and I have been loving it! the thing is absolutely awesome!

tweaka · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 6:56 am Post subject:

are any European suppliers gonna stock these ?

visible cow · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 10:49 am Post subject:

Wow, pretty sure I need another fmvdo and a triple osc now. I agree with Arcade Sinusoid, the fmvdo/PEG combo is really incredible.

Entrainer · Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 11:28 am Post subject: