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| qu.one wrote: | No offense to TTA, but these particular sounds have been well covered in and out of modular. Personally, I would rather see something completely new and different as far as dedicated drum modules go. i don't know what that is exactly, but i know another set of x0x sounds are not what i am after. again, this is one man's opinion.
a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart. |
I agree but none the less I must admit this has me excited.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:31 am Post subject: |
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| zvukoprocessor wrote: | | thomas_grey wrote: | | ...Doepfer had a plan about such a sequencer. Don't know what happened to that project. |
ohhhh, them with their plans.... its years in their plans... if all manufacturers were going so slow, we would still be using fucking VSTs |
er, Dieter was making analogue synths long before VSTs and will hopefully be doing so long after VSTs have gone away. When you understand the margins involved in modular synth manufacture and take into account that no one offers as many modules as Doepfer (without whom we probably wouldn't be using euro format at all) then it's a little churlish to grumble. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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| sweet. this was an out of the blue announcement! |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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| I love 808 but I'd rather have new ideas. |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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| Monobass wrote: | | I love 808 but I'd rather have new ideas. |
I feel the same. That's why I said I hope that it's not just another copy but with TipTop twist.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Monobass wrote: | | I love 808 but I'd rather have new ideas. |
That sums up my feeling exactly and that's whay I sold mine. |
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I'd say if these have a large pitch range and fm inputs then they will be quite interesting. Otherwise I can likely live without them.
You know what I miss on other drum modules is a pre-vca output so you can still use it like a vco or an fm modulator for something else. I mean the voice is in there already but the internal vca is cutting it short, why not have a second output for pre-vca?
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 1:48 pm Post subject: |
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| Johnisfaster wrote: | I'd say if these have a large pitch range and fm inputs then they will be quite interesting. Otherwise I can likely live without them.
You know what I miss on other drum modules is a pre-vca output so you can still use it like a vco or an fm modulator for something else. I mean the voice is in there already but the internal vca is cutting it short, why not have a second output for pre-vca? |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 2:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Johnisfaster wrote: | I'd say if these have a large pitch range and fm inputs then they will be quite interesting. Otherwise I can likely live without them.
You know what I miss on other drum modules is a pre-vca output so you can still use it like a vco or an fm modulator for something else. I mean the voice is in there already but the internal vca is cutting it short, why not have a second output for pre-vca? |
This is what make the Pitt Mod Generator so interesting for me.
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| qu.one wrote: | | Cwejman BLD. |
Really wish there was a decent video demo of that thing.
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pics and prices?
can't wait. |
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| qu.one wrote: |
a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart. |
"Granular" drums could easily be done with hardware 808 drums, and the analog 909 drums, assuming that the drums are set up as simple filter sections that can be "rung" by impulses of various amplitudes. The granular part would then come from the impulses being sent into the drums. Send a glitchy impulse stream in, get a granular drum beat out, complete with perfect overlapping of the "grains."
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| seancostello wrote: | | qu.one wrote: |
a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart. |
"Granular" drums could easily be done with hardware 808 drums, and the analog 909 drums, assuming that the drums are set up as simple filter sections that can be "rung" by impulses of various amplitudes. The granular part would then come from the impulses being sent into the drums. Send a glitchy impulse stream in, get a granular drum beat out, complete with perfect overlapping of the "grains."
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Sorry, but what are you talking about?
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| Johnisfaster wrote: | | seancostello wrote: | | qu.one wrote: |
a digital drum designer perhaps, with granular capabilities or something else that could set it apart. |
"Granular" drums could easily be done with hardware 808 drums, and the analog 909 drums, assuming that the drums are set up as simple filter sections that can be "rung" by impulses of various amplitudes. The granular part would then come from the impulses being sent into the drums. Send a glitchy impulse stream in, get a granular drum beat out, complete with perfect overlapping of the "grains."
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Sorry, but what are you talking about? |
"Granular synthesis" usually refers to having streams of overlapping "grains." A "grain," in this case, refers to a snippet of sound, that fades in and out in volume (this is called "windowing") so the grains can be mixed together without abrupt transitions.
An analog drum section is essentially one or more resonant filters in parallel. "Triggering" the drum refers to sending an impulse into the filters, such that they ring out. The natural sound of these filters is a fairly short attack, and a long decay.
By sending random-ish impulses into an analog drum section, the output will essentially be a bunch of "grains," where each one has a sharp attack and a long decay. You could send audio rate impulses in there, and get really glitchy sounds out.
The above explanation ignores pitch envelopes and the like, which will do weird things when triggered at audio rates. But they might be COOL weird things.
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So many modules, so little money.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: |
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Time to make some beats.  |
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I think there's always room for more if it's done well, and ASol emulations are definitely hit or miss, so I say bring it on! |
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