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ersatzplanet
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| Montag wrote: | This looks fantastic!!
When in the sequencer mode, could the second (or third or fourth...) module inputs act as additional sequencer features such as random mode, etc? |
I'm afraid that the communications between 4x4s currently cannot support that. The idea is that the PGM=4x4 provides the basic sequencer needs. The next module in the family will be a Clocking/Combiner module that will plug into up to 4 PGM 4x4s and will do all the fancy clocking madness we can put in it. In that usage the 4x4 will NOT be in Sequencer mode but will be in Programmer mode and the external Clocking/Combiner module will just "push the buttons" in whatever order you want the sequence to be. In this way you can have a 16 step sequencer with as many rows as you can fit in your cabinet. The combiner part will be electronic switches tied to the clocks to combine rows to make them longer - turning a single 4x4 into a dual 8-step, or a dual 4x4 into a dual 16-step etc.
The way the 4x4 is made now you can plug in external gates from logic modules and "push the buttons" and program your own sequencer - a lot can be done with PGM-4x4 and a A-161, A-151 and some switches.
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| mikecameron wrote: |
Would there be a way to set sequence length on the module (rather than patching an RCD divsion into reset)?
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If you don't mind loosing one row, I guess you could do the following: patch the cv out of one row into the reset input, and turn the knobs for that row either fully clockwise or fully couterclockwise, depending on which step you want the sequencer to reset. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:49 am Post subject: |
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| de_raaf wrote: | i'm wondering like let say you have 4 linked together
instead of using them as one big sequencer, is it possible to use it also as 2 sequencers or as 4
does the trigger in put when you patch in a cable of lfo etc, override the linkage, .....
it would be amazing to have the possibility when you have 2 or more modules lined up, that you can also use them separate when you want without taking the modules out and break the links. |
As of now only 2 PGM-4x4s can be chained (side by side) using the internal Sequencing mode. The internal busses act as ways to move the control signals "down the line" to appear on the right end output jacks - the two 4x4 outputs are summed together, appearing on both sets of jacks. The 4x4s don't go into sequencer mode until you press the four buttons a few seconds. If you have 2 chained and only press the buttons on the first one, it will be a sequencer and the second will be a programmer. What this means is the second 4x4's manually chosen CVs are summed with the 1st 4x4's sequentially generated CV - the second 4x4 will now transpose the first one.
When you run the 4x4 (up to 4 of them) with one of the Clocking/Combiner modules then all inputs will be normalized and each unit will be as independent as you want them to be, at least that is the goal. There will also be future modules much like the PGM-4x4 but without the manual input jacks and buttons - basically fields of pots or gate toggles or both, that will run with the Clocking/Combiner modules and will be cheaper than the 4x4s - the truly modular sequencer.
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| mikecameron wrote: | | PP is still viable if you need the individual gate outs and the functionality of the pressure out. |
And it should work with a PP also. Just plug the gate outs of the PP into the gate column select jacks on the 4x4 and it will follow along nicely. Also there is an internal bus that links to the FSR-4 series of Synthwerks modules to control the 4x4 from them adding pressure and 4 gate outs.
| mikecameron wrote: | James, I know this one module isn't meant to be a full-blown sequencer, but I have a few questions:
Will this have a direction input?
Would there be a way to set sequence length on the module (rather than patching an RCD divsion into reset)?
I ask these things, because I use them extensively on the PP+Brains, I just dont need the touchplate interface so your solution is more appealing in some ways. |
The PGM-4x4 is a basic sequencer as a stand-alone. To get all the bells and whistles you need to control it with external modules. The proposed family of Clocking/Combiner modules will do that. I hope to have a few option there from basic stuff (less than the Brains) to more complex modules (like the a-154 enhanced sequential controller). A buy what you need approach.
| mikecameron wrote: | | Maybe I'm just getting ahead of myself... Can't wait to see the other modules in this line!! |
Me too!
| mikecameron wrote: | How about some love for the STG Timing bus?
mmmm sequencers..... |
If I knew more about it I am sure some sort of conversion board or adaptor could be made. I will have to contact them. That is the advantage of the modular approach to sequencing - just make a little module to add the functions needed or to allow others to work with them.
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| Time Machines wrote: | | mikecameron wrote: |
Would there be a way to set sequence length on the module (rather than patching an RCD divsion into reset)?
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If you don't mind loosing one row, I guess you could do the following: patch the cv out of one row into the reset input, and turn the knobs for that row either fully clockwise or fully couterclockwise, depending on which step you want the sequencer to reset. |
I just patched that up and it does indeed work. I may be able to tweak the reset input a little to really make it work better - great idea!
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wow - duplicate
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Duplicate again - Muff just hiccuped...
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| Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Personally I think one of the more interesting features of the 4x4 is the ability to use it as a programmer. A bit like the Serge SQP. Very nice! |
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One thing that I like in theory about the Serge and CGS programmers is that they act as a linear sequencer and programmer simultaneously, so they have a step advance and up/down input (serge) or forwards and backwards gate inputs (CGS), while at the same time they'll jump to a program selected by a gate at that stage at any given time. Is it possible that that functionality could be implemented at a later date through an expander that had a separate step advance and reverse input, so the program select existing inputs could still be used?
If not, I'll still be all over this module, but it'd be rad 
[edit] I forgot to hit post a while ago and walked away from the computer. Looks like this question may have been addressed above 
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do want 
i think it will be more predictable that a PP
and perfect like a preset/note maker
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looking forward to this module 
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looks great. very cool module/functionality
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Great job. Seems really flexible and playable. Looks like there will be a skiff in my future. So much for stopping at 6u. 
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| nrdvrgr wrote: | There is no such thing as stopping at 6U. When will you fools learn??? 
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I know. How foolish of me to try. I originally said stop at 3u. I just filled 9u and it's only been two months. Now James has me thinking of another 3u of his stuff. There needs to be a analogue anonymous for us junkies. 
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I hope to get the protos back tho weekend programmed up with the new software. I will make a new demo showing a little more about the stacking and chaining features. It will be cool to have all of them programmed. The current video only has two of them programmed with the sequencer option (the bottom 2), the others were just programmed as programmers. I want to see what it is like to stack all of them into a 16-row, 4-step sequencer and as a 8x8 sequencer. Stay tuned...
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Was looking at another thread where people are comparing which companies might or might not be "the new Doepfer." Gotta give it up to Synthwerks for being, not the new anything, just the first Synthwerks. Dedicated and awesome control modules. I actually don't have any Synthwerks stuff yet but could definitely see a whole skiff full of it in the nearish future.
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| ersatzplanet wrote: | I hope to get the protos back tho weekend programmed up with the new software. I will make a new demo showing a little more about the stacking and chaining features. It will be cool to have all of them programmed. The current video only has two of them programmed with the sequencer option (the bottom 2), the others were just programmed as programmers. I want to see what it is like to stack all of them into a 16-row, 4-step sequencer and as a 8x8 sequencer. Stay tuned...
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Yes please! Thanks James!  |
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