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fluxmonkey
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

uh... thanks, but no credit to me for either of those circuits. 208 was derived from buchla, via schematic by scott stites and pcb layout by VTL5C3. bandpass was buchla via schematic capture & correction by marjan urekar. i just made the boards. psyched to see 'em alive in the wild, though!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

fluxmonkey wrote:
uh... thanks, but no credit to me for either of those circuits. 208 was derived from buchla, via schematic by scott stites and pcb layout by VTL5C3. bandpass was buchla via schematic capture & correction by marjan urekar. i just made the boards. psyched to see 'em alive in the wild, though!
cool, yea i was given credit to the people that rereleased them, doesn't make much sense so i changed them to the creator of each...

with that in mind should i take jerks name of the oscillator?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That territory gets kinda murky, IMO. Crediting the original circuit's designer is valid. But then again it's probably been changed a bit since the original, so do you credit the last person to make any changes? How big a change qualifies? Does credit for J3RK's 285 board belong to J3RK? Mark Verbos? Buchla?

These are valid questions. I think any answer is correct, and I think that the most technically-correct way is to credit the maker of the PCB itself. I often credit the original designer on my own panels. I say do what suits you best. (While respecting fluxmonkey's specific request, of course.)

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

negativspace wrote:
Does credit for J3RK's 285 board belong to J3RK? Mark Verbos? Buchla?

The answer to that is..."YES" hihi

My current design for a dual 258 from the J3RK PCBs labels it a "DUAL J3RK 258 VCO", but I think of it more as not a statement of credit, but rather of provenance. The "258 VCO" points to the Buchla origin, and the "J3RK" points to the circuit's provenance. Unfortunately...kind of hard to fit both of those plus "Verbos" on the panels. Not sure it really matters, though. If I ever get rid of that module, whoever gets it will know where the PCB came from and then be able to see it's based on Verbos's. seriously, i just don't get it

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

My vote for the 258 label is



But it's your panel, do what you want.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Rico I am loving that panel. I hope mine can look like that at some point. still not sure what's gonna go in it yet... might make 2 or the same, each with a single 258 vco, single teezer, dual 281, single serge VCS & dual LPG and then the other/zany stuff on a 3rd panel..
did you make this from scratch?

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

giorgio wrote:
Rico I am loving that panel. I hope mine can look like that at some point. still not sure what's gonna go in it yet... might make 2 or the same, each with a single 258 vco, single teezer, dual 281, single serge VCS & dual LPG and then the other/zany stuff on a 3rd panel..
did you make this from scratch?
thank you Giorgio, I used a blank serge panel template and the swooshes were made by someone else, other than that it's all me... I'm actually pretty blown away it's turning out
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Nice Panel and nice thread idea. I'll post the serge-a-like panel I'm designing once it's done.

For fonts I'm using itc eras medium. I use it italic for the labels at the top.

The comments below are pedantic so feel free to ignore them. I think there is a little too much labelling. Also serge panels tend to have outputs at the top and inputs at the bottom.

On the 281 I'd leave off the labels ATTACK IN and DECAY IN and connect the socket with a line to the swoosh on the knob. You could even connect the attack knob, attack cv knob and attack cv input with a line and then put an ATTACK label above the attack knob and a VC label between the cv input and the attenuator. Kinda like the slope control on the variable slope vcf here.. http://www.serge-fans.com/m-class-bi-filter.cfm

On the LPG I'd remove the CONTROL IN and CV IN labels and connect the to the knob swoosh and use a single label for the knob and input. I'd remove the INPUT LEVEL and connect the knob to the socket with a line and have a single INPUT label.

Again, on the wogglebug I'd use a single label for cv inputs that have an attenuator (RATE and SMOOTH), connect them with a line and place the label in the middle.

On the Wogglebug, I'd use a line to group the output sockets. Kinda like the outs on the vcf on m-panel I posted. If you put all the outputs at the top and separated them with a line, you could label the section OUTPUTS then label the sockets WOGGLE instead of WOGGLE OUT etc.

On the Sequential switch, I'd move the IO1..IO4 to the top of the panel and put a line around them.

I'd change the bandpass to kHz (instead of Khz). Actually for fully serge-a-like I'd leave of the Hz altogether.. so 200 200-900 900-4k and 4k+ like the resonant eq here.. http://www.serge-fans.com/m-class-eq-shift.cfm
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

@widdly...def some good ideas, I'll try em out tomorrow see how they look. What size fonts are you using, I feel like mine is too big to fit in-between the swooshes and jacks... I think I'll def at least try putting outputs at top in an outline and inputs on bottom
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'll check the font size tonight. Yours looks a bit bigger than what I'm using.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If you plan to use this panel stand-alone you could use some mixers because now all you're modules have only one input. I would move the deep-switch of the 292 off-grid and add an extra input. If you remove the input level pot of the 194 and move the outputs up, you could add an attenueverter in the bottom three spots. Lastly I would (and I did) name the single input/output of your sequential switch 'O/I' to show that it's different from the other inputs/outputs. I also think you would miss the switch to select the number of stages, maybe you can fit it in off-grid?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2011 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

lie3vie3 wrote:
If you plan to use this panel stand-alone you could use some mixers because now all you're modules have only one input. I would move the deep-switch of the 292 off-grid and add an extra input. If you remove the input level pot of the 194 and move the outputs up, you could add an attenueverter in the bottom three spots. Lastly I would (and I did) name the single input/output of your sequential switch 'O/I' to show that it's different from the other inputs/outputs. I also think you would miss the switch to select the number of stages, maybe you can fit it in off-grid?
Oh shit totally forget the switch for the seq switch! Thanx for reminding me. The panel will be w a couple of the zthee bog panels so the mixer on that should cover me.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 28, 2011 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

ok heres my revised panel so far, tried to get most of the outputs to the top and dropped some of the redundant naming. Also read somewhere the font was ITC Eras so changed to that



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

one last bump before i send this out to Luigi at epinasty. anyone see any spelling errors?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

looks good to me rico

i have most of those modules and the one thing i wish i had added more was leds. it is nice to be able to see what is happening. i suppose it isn't very serge approach so you may not care.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Nope, no errors that I see. Looks fantastic, too! Changing the typeface makes such a huge difference. w00t
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

thanks guys, well i guess off it goes...
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 30, 2011 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

thumbs up Looks very nice. Can't wait to see it "in the flesh" as it were.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This is a "multibus"

I bought a boatload of multiway switches and need something to use them for!

there will be 4 of them, one for each "corner" of my synth. It is to save on long wires getting in the way, and i need a bunch of multis anyways, especially with my cirklon CVIO box shipping any day now!

they are all connected together internally with 8 shielded bus cables,
each of the 4 multis can be connected to any of the busses or none at all.



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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3248170/multibus.fpd

I am using white chickenheads for the switches.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

nice idea! I have a bunch of those switches as well and no project for them... yet...

looks in order.
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