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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:41 am    Post subject: Pseudo .5 291 Bandpass Filter Board Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hello,

Just thought I'd move discussion of this to a new thread. I've got a board around 75% laid out now. (first pass, so there will need to be some optimization, fixes, and I'm planning some additions/mod-space) I plan to order prototypes within the next couple of weeks.

Basically it's a single 291 bandpass filter. I'm looking into tapping/mixing other responses now too.

I've decided to do one filter per board using a smaller board. They'll be stackable with thru-power header like the .5 258 boards. This should also help with putting multiple boards into smaller formats. I'm planning a quad-board module myself that can be used as a resonant eq, or formant filter.

Anyway, I'll start updating this thread with any major progress, and hope to have a final design ready within a month or so.

Here's the basic BOM:

Code:
Bill Of Materials
=================


QTY  PART-REFS           VALUE                         
---  ---------           -----                                       
Resistors
---------
2    R1,R45              47k                                               
1    R2                  2.2M                                             
4    R3,R8,R12,R31       6.8k                                             
2    R4,R13              33k                                               
4    R5,R15,R25,R32      10k                                               
1    R6                  5.6k                                             
2    R9,R14              10M                                               
2    R18,R19             4.7k                                             
4    R20,R21,R28,R29     1.5k                                             
1    R22                 1M                                               
2    R23,R26             15K                                               
1    R24                 68R                                           
5    R27,R33,R34,R48,R49 1k                                               
1    R30                 4.7M                                             
1    R35                 100k                                             
1    R36                 220R                                             
2    R38,R39             62K                                               
2    R42,R43             68K

***MODS***
R24=33R
R27=100R
                           
Capacitors
----------
1    C1                  1000pf                                           
2    C2,C5               .022                                             
1    C3                  220pF                                             
1    C4                  15uF                                             
1    C6                  470pF                                             
1    C7                  47pF                                             
1    C8                  .47

***MODS***
C2,C5=.047                                               

Integrated Circuits
-------------------
1    U1                  TL071                                             
1    U2                  TL074                                             
1    U3                  TL072                                             

Transistors
-----------                           
2    Q1,Q2               2N3904

***MODS***
Q1,Q2=2N5089 (sounds a little nicer to me anyway)
                                           

Diodes
------
1    D1                  DIODE-ZEN 3.9V                                       
1    D2                  1N4148                                           

Miscellaneous
-------------
1    Q                   100k UI
4    CF,CF CV,WIDTH,     10k                                               
1    FM                  50K                                                                                                                                   
4    VT1-VT4             OptoCoupler                                               
1    WIDTH TRIM          5k   


2 10uF or higher electrolytic caps for power filtering.
4 .01uF bypass capacitors (labeled BP1-BP4) *


***Errors***

There are two small silk-screen errors on the board unfortunately. On the left side of the board where the controls attach, there are two resistors labeled R21. The top one should actually be R43.

* There seems to be a "bonus" bypass cap on the board. You can populate it or not. (it's an unlabeled cap) Just drop a .01 in there if you feel like it. The original layout didn't have bypass caps at all, so they are optional.

** This is a silly one, but basically the "Q" header at the top-left of the board, is more or less useless. This was on the schematics that I was working from, so I included it. The real resonance/Q trim is the 5K WTrim pot, which will adjust the resonance for the Width control. This is really something that I feel is best left to a trim-pot. Just set it the way you like it, and you're good. I'm actually not sure what the original intent of the 100K pot on the input is. While it does make very slight changes to the signal, it's definitely not audible, so it's entirely optional.

Also, here is the schematic for those interested:

http://home.comcast.net/~r3cogniz3r/291diagram.jpg


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

cool. this may be the extra filter I'm looking for for my DIY synth, especially if a highpass output could be tapped.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

yes, yes, yes....... please.

4 boards.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

great - i really like my 291s
i would like to have a bank of them

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thank you J3RK! I'm in: 2 please.
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yes! x4 sounds good to me. I was thinking about building a cgs serge resonant equalizer, but I think a j3rk pseudo 291 is first in order.
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Uh huh, yup.
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screaming goo yo
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You can count me in for 4 PCBs.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Count me in for at least 2 PCBs
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 29, 2011 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'll take around 4!

Actually, I'll just take 2-4 of anything, come to think of it!

Thanks J3RK.

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Ill take a couple!
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yes please!
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Awesome! Count me in for 4.

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Yes, please include the lowpass and highpass outputs! Check that EM thread as one of them, IIRC the LPF, is out of phase.

Very cool!

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saweeeet!
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I agree, all 3 outputs and I'm down for 2-4 depending on price.
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Sounds tempting!

Will the PCBs be Euro compatible (Voltage/PSU Header etc)?

How big will they be?
If they were small enough that you could parallel mount/stack 2 or 3 behind, say, a 14HP panel, that would be great!


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hyper

edit: i'd take at least 2, maybe more
great project, J3RK


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