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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: New things Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Any one know what the KV-100 and R-51 are gonna be?
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Yes.
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what are they?
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my guess is a PSU and a rackmount TM1 (we already know its a euro something)

theres just no way metasonix modules can use normal doepfer power supplies, they cant provide enough evil.
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A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:
my guess is a PSU and a rackmount TM1 (we already know its a euro something)

theres just no way metasonix modules can use normal doepfer power supplies, they cant provide enough evil.



How do you know?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 09, 2008 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:
my guess is a PSU and a rackmount TM1 (we already know its a euro something)

theres just no way metasonix modules can use normal doepfer power supplies, they cant provide enough evil.


I think they may use doepfer power. The module I saw had doepfer connectors, and I asked Shawn about the power. He said it plugs into the power bus. Maybe others will? I dunno, but as far as I know, no special power required, I'm not sure about the power consumption. I think it was a prototype I saw, not positive...
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dkcg wrote:
A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:
my guess is a PSU and a rackmount TM1 (we already know its a euro something)

theres just no way metasonix modules can use normal doepfer power supplies, they cant provide enough evil.


I think they may use doepfer power. The module I saw had doepfer connectors, and I asked Shawn about the power. He said it plugs into the power bus. Maybe others will? I dunno, but as far as I know, no special power required, I'm not sure about the power consumption. I think it was a prototype I saw, not positive...


how is that possible? I mean tubes require HUGE voltages?

sonic wrote:
A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:
my guess is a PSU and a rackmount TM1 (we already know its a euro something)

theres just no way metasonix modules can use normal doepfer power supplies, they cant provide enough evil.



How do you know?


http://www.deviantsynth.com/2008/11/25/sorry-for-the-quiet-time/
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A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:
dkcg wrote:
A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:
my guess is a PSU and a rackmount TM1 (we already know its a euro something)

theres just no way metasonix modules can use normal doepfer power supplies, they cant provide enough evil.


I think they may use doepfer power. The module I saw had doepfer connectors, and I asked Shawn about the power. He said it plugs into the power bus. Maybe others will? I dunno, but as far as I know, no special power required, I'm not sure about the power consumption. I think it was a prototype I saw, not positive...


how is that possible? I mean tubes require HUGE voltages?

sonic wrote:
A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:
my guess is a PSU and a rackmount TM1 (we already know its a euro something)

theres just no way metasonix modules can use normal doepfer power supplies, they cant provide enough evil.



How do you know?


http://www.deviantsynth.com/2008/11/25/sorry-for-the-quiet-time/


Looks like is gonna be killer SlayerBadger!
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This is the post from Eric that answers most important technical questions:

"1. No, the tubes don't get hot enough to melt plastic. They get a little too hot to grab with your fingers. So don't grab them. They're exposed because people must have them stuck up their nostrils to believe there's tubes in it. And for heat----the inside of a large Doepfer cabinet gets damn hot as it is.

2. Yeah, there will be provision for an MOTM power connector and +-15v power. Just add 2 resistors and the connector, mount it to whatever panel size you like, and go. We'll offer a slightly cheaper bare board for DIYers.

3. One chip is a driver for the output and the CV inputs, the other is the switching power supply for the plate voltage (48v). Everything has to be solid-state compatible, so buffers are needed.

4. You can use this module to create a variable-mu limiter, just use an envelope follower and invert its CV output with an A-175 inverter or whatever. Run that to the VCA CV input, presto: a snobby tube limiter.

5. Small tubes like this are actually quite tough. You have to hit them very hard to break them. As usual, I'm using NOS tube types are are dirt-common and easy to replace. The boards are even designed to let you substitute types with different heater voltages. This module can accept 12BA6, 12BE6, 12AU6 and other 7-pin pentodes with 12v heaters by rewiring the heater connections. So even if the world runs out of 26A6s (which won't happen till long after we are all dead and buried), you can substitute.

6. It uses 150 mA from the +-12v supplies and is 22HP wide. All the planned modules will have that size and power consumption--except a VCO. That's gonna be a difficult thing to implement. I'm working on it.
Retail price probably $300-350, not decided yet."
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 10, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

A Dingleberry Monstrosity wrote:

how is that possible? I mean tubes require HUGE voltages?


Not necessarily. A tube can be biased any old way you choose, in accordance with its design. Current demand & headroom could be issues, but that depends upon the design goal & one can play with all of that and still get audio out of the circuit. Things like headroom, distortion & bandwidth will be effected though.

The above is simplified but makes the point.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The KV100 is NOT a rackmount anything.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

So... can anybody post some more clips of their R-51? I"m waiting for the R-53 to come out (as well as my Credit Card to recover) and I want to order them both at the same time. Just curious if some more wreckage was out there or not. smile
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Stuff here if you haven't seen it: soundcloud/dougcl

Let me know if there is anything in particular you want to hear.
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r-51 and drums! hyper hyper hyper
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Here you go.
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wholly fuck......... I love how that sounds!!!!!!!! I have to order this hoe!
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How about bass guitar?
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Snagged! I really can't wait to run samples out from my computer thru this and drums if nothing else. smile
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So... as I sit anxiously awaiting my r51 from ah. I've been reading about this thing as a vari-mu compressor. Anybody care to elaborate or drop a clip of someone actually doing this? The thought of a modular tube compressor is AWESOME! Not to mention for mixing audio.....
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

tragedybysyntax wrote:
So... as I sit anxiously awaiting my r51 from ah. I've been reading about this thing as a vari-mu compressor. Anybody care to elaborate or drop a clip of someone actually doing this? The thought of a modular tube compressor is AWESOME! Not to mention for mixing audio.....


I haven't heard a sample of it yet, but the idea is to invert the output of an envelope follower and apply it to the VCA CV input. Now, someone who has it must do it!
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