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fivesteppath Common Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:57 am Post subject: |
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| J3RK wrote: | Good news on the individual gates. The are VERY easily tapped from the 4028 Bin to Dec outputs. (either at the LED pad, or resistor leads next to them.) I tested it by triggering the input of a dual 281 in AD mode. Works perfectly. I'd still like to take a quick look on the scope, just to see what each individual gate pulse looks like, but yes, this does work.
It looks very doubtful that the reset is going to work without fairly heavy modification. If I can squeeze this in before the end of the week, or find an easier way, I will, otherwise, it will have to wait for the large version sometime in the future. |
Awesome! Expect $ x 2 tomorrow from me. Don't mean to nag but BOM would still be great  _________________ http://soundcloud.com/five-step-path |
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J3RK Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:24 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry, I should be able to pop the BOM up tonight. It's created, just need to copy/paste it.
Things have been incredibly busy at work for the past couple of weeks, so I've been a little slower than I'd like. |
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J3RK Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2011 7:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ack! I must sincerely apologize, for I'm living up to my forum name. I need to get that BOM up. I'm sending myself a calendar reminder to do this right now. Sorry about that. It'll be up tonight. Orders will stay open through the weekend, and the production run will be ordered Mondayish. Thanks again, and I'll set up us the BOM shortly.  |
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J3RK Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2011 1:32 pm Post subject: |
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Sorry for the long delay. Here is the BOM. It's fairly simple. Caps are .1" lead spacing for non-electrolytics. The electrolytics are .125"
| Code: | Bill Of Materials
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QTY PART-REFS VALUE
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Resistors
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8 R1-R8 470
2 R9,R19 100
8 R10,R11,R13-R18 10k
2 R12,R20 1k
1 R23 82k
Capacitors
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2 C1,C3 10nF
1 C2 100nF
2 C4,C5 10uF+ Electrolytic (power filtering)
Integrated Circuits
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1 U1 4029
1 U2 4028
1 U3 4051
2 U4,U5 4013
1 U7 LT1114/TL074
1 U8 4093
Transistors
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1 Q1 2N3904
Diodes
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8 D1-D8 LED-GREEN
3 D11-D13 DIODE (1N4148 or similar)
Miscellaneous
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8 RV1-RV8 100k
1 SW1 SW-ROT-3
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fivesteppath Common Wiggler
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303monkey Common Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I wanted one of these too |
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fivesteppath Common Wiggler
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Jarno Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:29 am Post subject: |
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Dustin, do you have a layout picture of these boards, and a schematic?
I usually mark which components I did and didn't place, and also for remembering to order certain components.
The schematic is useful to determine possible component substitutions. |
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J3RK Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Jarno wrote: | Dustin, do you have a layout picture of these boards, and a schematic?
I usually mark which components I did and didn't place, and also for remembering to order certain components.
The schematic is useful to determine possible component substitutions. |
I should be able to put a board image together tonight for this. |
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Jarno Ultra Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks! Boards look great btw. Like the layout of the 258 boards as well lots of room for different types of components. |
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FrankV waggling wiggler
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Hi--
Just a quickie. I'm guessing the switch is a three position for mode setting... Looking at the (four) pads on the board, it's not entirely clear to me which one would be the common. Did I miss a schematic in some other thread?
Best,
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J3RK Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm putting together a bit more information for these now. In the design/schematic, I'm using a three position rotary switch. Since I've just been using a jumper-wire to select on the bench, I'll have to think about wiring a non-rotary switch. Should be pretty easy. It's in ping-pong mode with nothing wired there by default. |
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J3RK Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:24 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the schematic for the FlopSeq Sequencer. I'm linking it, rather than posting the image, as it's pretty large.
http://home.comcast.net/~r3cogniz3r/flopseqschem.jpg
If anyone has any suggestions on using a more standard switch, by all means post! I haven't had much in the way of time to revisit this in a while. (though I'm still planning the larger sequencer for down the road a wee. |
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FrankV waggling wiggler
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:04 am Post subject: |
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Cool! Thanks for posting.
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Citisyn Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 7:28 pm Post subject: |
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OK, I'm having no luck getting this thing to work. Could somebody help me troubleshoot?
Here is what's happening:
With mode switch in pingpong (or disconnected) the counter counts up to 10 and resets to step 1. With switch in one of the other positions it will skip either step 1 or step 8.
Probing around I've discovered that pin 1 of U5:A is staying high regardless of the states of pins 4 or 6. I'm pretty sure that is the problem, but I can't figure out why it's doing that. I've tested the chip on a breadboard and it seems to work fine.
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J3RK Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Citisyn wrote: | OK, I'm having no luck getting this thing to work. Could somebody help me troubleshoot?
Here is what's happening:
With mode switch in pingpong (or disconnected) the counter counts up to 10 and resets to step 1. With switch in one of the other positions it will skip either step 1 or step 8.
Probing around I've discovered that pin 1 of U5:A is staying high regardless of the states of pins 4 or 6. I'm pretty sure that is the problem, but I can't figure out why it's doing that. I've tested the chip on a breadboard and it seems to work fine.
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I've only run across something like this once, and was unable to reproduce it, but what it appeared to be is that something caused the seed for the binary counter to be off, so it skipped a step or two. Powering it off and then back on fixed this though. Never got it to happen again though. I've built and tested four of them now without any issues. I'll take a look at one of mine when I get home tonight, and see if I can find some things for you to check. |
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Citisyn Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| J3RK wrote: |
I've only run across something like this once, and was unable to reproduce it, but what it appeared to be is that something caused the seed for the binary counter to be off, so it skipped a step or two. Powering it off and then back on fixed this though. Never got it to happen again though. I've built and tested four of them now without any issues. I'll take a look at one of mine when I get home tonight, and see if I can find some things for you to check. |
I appreciate that, I'll keep poking around myself and see if I can figure it out.
EDIT: (Accidentally) Removed R8 and PingPong mode works. In the other modes, the counter counts in the right direction but still counts to 10. I'll study the schematics some more and re-check my soldering.
EDIT 2: Looks like I wire the mode switch wrong.
Fixed that and replaced R8 with a higher value and now every thing works. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/citisyn |
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CJ Miller Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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How crucial is the 470ohm value for those resistors? I am surprised to be short of them. I could replace them in a few days, but also I have others between 390 and 510 ohms. Any idea what sort of behavior I should expect if I increase or decrease this value?
Thanks so much for these great boards! Very much looking forward to the expanded FlopSeq.
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Citisyn Learning to Wiggle
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Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| CJ Miller wrote: | How crucial is the 470ohm value for those resistors? I am surprised to be short of them. I could replace them in a few days, but also I have others between 390 and 510 ohms. Any idea what sort of behavior I should expect if I increase or decrease this value?
Thanks so much for these great boards! Very much looking forward to the expanded FlopSeq.
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Changing the values of those resistors should only affect the brightness of the LEDs. However, at least on mine, the value of R8 seems to affect the voltage present ant pins 4 and 9 of U5, which controls the direction/ resetting of the sequencer. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/citisyn |
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CJ Miller Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Citisyn wrote: | | Changing the values of those resistors should only affect the brightness of the LEDs. However, at least on mine, the value of R8 seems to affect the voltage present ant pins 4 and 9 of U5, which controls the direction/ resetting of the sequencer. |
Affects it how? What value did you choose, and what happens with the sequencer action?
I am probably going to go with 510 ohm, because I have so many of these. We'll see what happens! |
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