Muff's Modules & More Forum Index Muff's Modules & More
we weren't even testing for that
 
 FAQ & Terms Of UseFAQ & Terms Of Use   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 
Information
Hello! This is a message to everyone who emailed or PM'ed me asking for an exemption to the '100-post rule' for our Buy-Sell-Trade forum. You didn't get a reply from me because you aren't above the rules. The rules are the same for everyone. I understand your position and I'm sorry I can't help you, but I can't help you. Thanks for understanding! Please enjoy our lovely forum.


Open player

Search for at
Muff's Modules & More Advanced Search

Your voluntary donation helps support the community!
Voltage controlled radio?
 
 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Muff's Modules & More Forum Index -> Modular Synth General Discussion
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Voltage controlled radio?
Veqtor
Super Deluxe Wiggler


Joined: 14 Nov 2008
Last Visit: 24 May 2013

Posts: 2097
Location: Malmö, Sweden

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:18 pm    Post subject: Voltage controlled radio? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Surfing the am-waves for wonderful drones has made me wonder, isn't there some manufacturer producing a voltage controlled am/mw and fm receiver?
It would be a very cool module!

_________________
http://veqtor.bandcamp.com
http://veqtor.blogspot.com
http://www.myspace.com/veqtor
http://www.oxo-unlimited.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message MSN Messenger
gde
anti-zarzutzki


Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Last Visit: 24 May 2013

Posts: 190

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

this has been discussed on various sdiy forums and lists (here too i think...)

the main reason one doesnt commercially exist is probably because voltage control over a radio is a tricky thing to do and radio itself is pretty finicky...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
syncretism
Veteran Wiggler


Joined: 25 Jan 2009
Last Visit: 16 Feb 2013

Posts: 678

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

There was a fella at AHMW 2007 with a VC FM module; I think it was homebrewed, but perhaps it was one of the many Ken Stone-derived designs in his rig. Maybe George Mattson will make a HAM module; he's quite the radio enthusiast =)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
gde
anti-zarzutzki


Joined: 05 Jan 2009
Last Visit: 24 May 2013

Posts: 190

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

FM seems to have more options
theres some simple FM transmitters and receivers made for use with microcontrollers and ive seen some people use max and arduino to interface to them

didnt fluxmonkey homebrew one?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address
Illiac
Ultra Wiggler


Joined: 28 Feb 2009
Last Visit: 24 May 2013

Posts: 754
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

http://home.earthlink.net/~erinys/tech.htm
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Illiac
Ultra Wiggler


Joined: 28 Feb 2009
Last Visit: 24 May 2013

Posts: 754
Location: Chicago

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

bah, upon closer inspection there is no cv.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
wetterberg
Super Deluxe Wiggler


Joined: 24 Jul 2008
Last Visit: 16 Mar 2013

Posts: 7656
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark.

PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

yes, it was discussed not a few months ago on [sdiy] - main thing is that usually the frequency is controlled by a variable capacitor, not easily put under voltage control.

there should be an archive available online to see the thread, there were some good suggestions in there.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message AIM Address MSN Messenger
JP
Super Deluxe Wiggler


Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Last Visit: 29 Jan 2013

Posts: 1084
Location: NJ

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

bump, I've been doing some digging this morning, as I think an AM or FM, radio with CV would really be rather handy, especially if the output could be used as CV.

Does anyone have any ideas about how to get a ball rolling and breadboard something up?

Other thread I found was here…

http://electro-music.com/forum/viewtopic.php?highlight=radio+module&t= 34656
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JP
Super Deluxe Wiggler


Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Last Visit: 29 Jan 2013

Posts: 1084
Location: NJ

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Here's my lo-fi thinking. Buy a small hand held transistor radio, gut it, find the pot that controls the tuning, add a vactoral along with the pot.

CV controllable radio grin

I'm not even hoping for great reception, I just want interesting noise. Really want I'm hoping for is being able to tune in and sequence the crackles and hisses.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
daverj
Vintage Video Wiggler


Joined: 19 Jun 2009
Last Visit: 24 May 2013

Posts: 4823

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

the tuning isn't done with a pot. It's usually a multi-plate variable capacitor. A vactrol won't work.

There are special diodes that vary capacitance with voltage, but the amount of capacitance is tiny compared to what is typical of the tuner in a cheap transistor radio.

The best way might be to find a cheap digitally controlled radio and use a PIC chip's A-D to convert a voltage into a digital control.

_________________
Dave Jones Design | http://www.jonesvideo.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JP
Super Deluxe Wiggler


Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Last Visit: 29 Jan 2013

Posts: 1084
Location: NJ

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Good catch on the incorrect pot assumption, I just found a bunch of info about coils and variable capacitors.

Ugh. I think I need to do some more digging.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
richard_k
Common Wiggler


Joined: 28 Mar 2009
Last Visit: 08 Sep 2012

Posts: 97
Location: Mesa, AZ

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ramsey Electronics sells a shortwave radio kit model SR2C for $45 USD that has a varactor diode for the tuning mechanism. That can be modified for voltage control. Look here for the web page with the information http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&ke y=SR2C

They also sell an FM broadcast receiver model FR1C for $43 USD. See http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&ke y=FR1C

The Ramsey kits aren't know for the highest quality but they do work and the price is reasonable.

_________________
There are two means of refuge from the miseries of life--music and cats. --Albert Schweitzer.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
JP
Super Deluxe Wiggler


Joined: 07 Jan 2010
Last Visit: 29 Jan 2013

Posts: 1084
Location: NJ

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ohhh nice find, thanks !
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Rod Serling Fan Club
aquatic hitchhiker


Joined: 14 Dec 2009
Last Visit: 23 May 2013

Posts: 3433
Location: Germany

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Interesting, I hope someone does this and is willing to share the information. These radio threads keep popping up but don’t go anywhere. I think all forms could be useful, AM and shortwave for weirder/noisier stuff. I think FM could be cool if you could develop a fast scanner type of system, it would almost be like a random sampling wave-table.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
fluxmonkey
Super Deluxe Wiggler


Joined: 18 Oct 2008
Last Visit: 24 May 2013

Posts: 1282

PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

richard_k wrote:
Ramsey Electronics sells a shortwave radio kit model SR2C for $45 USD that has a varactor diode for the tuning mechanism. That can be modified for voltage control. Look here for the web page with the information http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&ke y=SR2C

They also sell an FM broadcast receiver model FR1C for $43 USD. See http://www.ramseyelectronics.com/cgi-bin/commerce.exe?preadd=action&ke y=FR1C

The Ramsey kits aren't know for the highest quality but they do work and the price is reasonable.


i tried this with the FM broadcast receiver. it's still sitting on the "sad projects that didn't work but i'll get to it someday" pile (an impressively large pile btw). i have not yet done any extensive troubleshooting, so i could be an easy fix. looked good in theory.

b

_________________
www.fluxmonkey.com

please email (rather than PM) with any direct correspondence
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Muff's Modules & More Forum Index -> Modular Synth General Discussion All times are GMT - 5 Hours
 
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You cannot download files in this forum



Mark all forums read
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group