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bouzoukijoe1 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:00 pm Post subject: advanced dubstep wobble modulation possible on analog? |
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anyone know how to do this kind of complex modulation at around 0:21? it sounds like a combination of an LFO and maybe FM and realtime use of a mod wheel? really cool sound.
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bouzoukijoe1 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:32 am Post subject: |
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forget it - just found a good example using Make Noise Pressure Points
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Smooth Operator Common Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:50 pm Post subject: |
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If you donīt need it live within one patch, iīd say sample different sounds with different modulation speed and rearrange. Gives more variety and a good flow for sth that works
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bouzoukijoe1 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject: |
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good excuse to get an MPC I guess
thanks! |
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withakay Wiggling with Experience
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iVardensphere Wiggling with Experience
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bouzoukijoe1 Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:32 am Post subject: |
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nice.
I was playing with some more patches and I came to the conclusion that to get that kind of variety in LFO rates from note to note, I need a LFO with a very wide range of modulation. most LFOs I think are set to narrow ranges so it won't let you jump from low frequency to near-audio rates in rapid succession. though I guess you could prepare multiple LFOs at different ranges and trigger different ones, but you still couldn't sweep that far in a single envelope trigger (unless maybe you layer LFOs - hmm).
I figure since most of this kind of stuff is done in software (Massive?), it's no problem setting many different modulation rates/ranges on the fly. much harder to do with analog gear. |
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iVardensphere Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| Exactly! In the video I'm using an oscillator (Cwejman VCO-2RM) as the LFO and a different oscillator (Macbeth Dual) for the audio. Using the Cwejman really opened up the range. |
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zap32 Common Wiggler
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Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hello,
I am French so I hope you understand me, if this is not the case, it is the fault has google translation!
I created the same sort of subject on a French site which most users also squat on muffwigler and it is clear that one can make nasty wobble with modules but it takes quite a bit.
2 people on this link you tried to do a dubstep track with their modular:
http://www.synthe-modulaire.com/t437-tuto-exemple-de-wobble-bass-dubst ep#7457 |
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50quidsoundboy beneath the carpet tiles, the beach
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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dubstep was always a software based music - a product of either FruityLoops or NI Massive, depending on who you ask - not sure what the point is of trying to imitate this sound with hardware.  |
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zap32 Common Wiggler
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:39 am Post subject: |
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We can create a special modular wobble bass.This is what I'm doing but is it expensive and is not the easiest solution, that 's on!
Like that I could make manufacture my wobbles and resampled as in the example of the video. to dubstep with the hardware it requires a lot of synth and a sampler, is more expensive than the software (though given the price of software) but it allows for a different sound of dubstep business and very good for live.
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avinopsv Veteran Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:03 am Post subject: |
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| 50quidsoundboy wrote: | dubstep was always a software based music - a product of either FruityLoops or NI Massive, depending on who you ask - not sure what the point is of trying to imitate this sound with hardware.  |
because they fuckin want to.
that being said I fucking hate dubstep. it's just so grating to me. _________________ www.avinopsvrecords.com
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I'm not into dubstep at all either, but sometimes it's nice to find out just how sounds are made, techniques that can be used elsewhere.
The combo Pressure Points & Pingable Envelope Generator is a great way to make all kind of wobbly sounds, made a quick shakey demo:
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| Dr. Sketch-n-Etch wrote: | However, in the meantime, just imagine a synthesizer going "doooooooo" and "eeeeeeee" accompanied by green lines on a scope making perfect triangles, sines, etc.  |
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Protocol Common Wiggler
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject: Peg |
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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The first thing i did with my peg was make a self generating wobble bass patch with the anti osc as a joke. But then it turned out to sound so friggin fat i had to use the patch in a track. Im so ashamed... _________________ it can all be summarized here: http://xexify.com
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bodo Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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^ haha same here, I couldn't care less for wobbles really, but it does have its place I suppose. _________________ http://soundcloud.com/bodo
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| Dr. Sketch-n-Etch wrote: | However, in the meantime, just imagine a synthesizer going "doooooooo" and "eeeeeeee" accompanied by green lines on a scope making perfect triangles, sines, etc.  |
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h4ndcrafted Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Case is wobbling just as much as the bass  |
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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I thought Dubsteppers were too "I do everything with my Macbook" to want to use analog gear...  _________________ Debut OPERATOR EP RHAAAWWWGH! Out Now on Beatport: http://tinyurl.com/78dnlue
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h4ndcrafted Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| joel1088 wrote: | I thought Dubsteppers were too "I do everything with my Macbook" to want to use analog gear...  |
If it ain't Massive and Sylenth, it ain't Dubstep  |
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