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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 2:33 am    Post subject: RME UFX, anyone? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hi I am on the hunt for a new soundcard again, my love has fallen on the RME UFX, but there is also a 802 comming out in 1 month.

Does anyone have the UFX and do you like it.

I had a Motu 896mk3 before, but my mixes ended up being a bit muddy, I think it's mainly because it is not possible to bypass the pre-amps.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I've had the UFX as the centerpiece of my small studio setup for two years (upgraded from a Fireface 400) and I love it. It's one of the very few pieces of gear I've owned that seriously do not get on the way when you want to make music or edit audio.

Good neutral healthy sound, plenty of features and I/O, rock solid drivers and crazy matrix mixer like all RME units, awesome additional stuff like direct recording of all I/O to USB drive, software loopback capability to capture audio from software, etc. etc.. Plus it actually works as solidly over USB2 connection as Firewire which I consider a great thing for future-proofing. The RME anything-to-anything matrix mixer (Totalmix FX) has bit of a learning curve if you're used to the MOTU mixer or something even simpler than that, but it's an awesomely powerful tool once you get the hang of it.

Ultimately the decision is whether you want / need the extra stuff that UFX has to offer or if the 802 would be enough in that sense. As far as sound and stability go, I'm sure you'd be very happy with either. If you are looking for crazy expensive boutique converters then these aren't going to be them but to be honest I probably wouldn't hear a difference since the ones in UFX are so good (and probably on same level in the 802). Even if you decided to go crazy with that side later, you'd probably want to have the RME drivers and matrix and just hook up external converters via ADAT or AES/EBU.

If you need to know anything specific about the UFX, I can try to answer your questions. Take my gushing with a grain of salt though, I've really grown to like the UFX a _lot_.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks flts, that is really kind of you, all the good experience you had with it makes me want it even more now smile

Do you think there are any difference between the FF802 and the UFX converters?

From Motu I am used to using the DSP tools a lot, especially I think I will miss the tuner.

I like the fact that I do not really need to turn on my computer to make recording, and everything is adjustable from the front panel, and you can see if something is peaking.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I don't own a RME UFX, but I've been using it a lot. It's stable as fuck and it has this clever invisible personality that I much appreciate (I have a bad history with soundcards).
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Your name is funny wink

Thanks for the reply

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: RME UFX, anyone? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

acidbob wrote:
I had a Motu 896mk3 before, but my mixes ended up being a bit muddy, I think it's mainly because it is not possible to bypass the pre-amps.


If the preamps cause muddiness this will show up in an objective measurement.
RMAA, free measuring software.
Frequency curve will have dips and bumps, distortions will be high and noise levels to.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

acidbob wrote:
Do you think there are any difference between the FF802 and the UFX converters?


To be honest, even with 802 not being out yet I've a hunch I would not notice a difference. For that price from that particular manufacturer, I've no doubt they're both (going to be) well engineered pieces of hardware with good clean mic preamps and converters. If I was shopping for a new interface now I would probably choose between those two and based on the feature set only.

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From Motu I am used to using the DSP tools a lot, especially I think I will miss the tuner.


Yeah, the RME's DSP side - aside the brilliant mixing matrix - mainly consists of the channel EQ + comp (which are clean & usable) and delay + verb (which are nothing to write home about but still very useful when doing monitor mixes). You don't get a tuner or anything as "fancy" as extra, so there's that as a minus side.

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I like the fact that I do not really need to turn on my computer to make recording, and everything is adjustable from the front panel, and you can see if something is peaking.


Those are certainly nice points. The menu UI in front panel is not very fast to navigate so I tend to use the Totalmix FX software for setting up things, but it's certainly convenient that you CAN set up most of the things in the front panel as well. Plus do the multitrack direct recording thing standalone and edit things with the computer afterwards.

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It's stable as fuck and it has this clever invisible personality that I much appreciate (I have a bad history with soundcards).


Exactly. I love instruments with personality and quirks, but for tools (such as audio interface and, to some extent, monitor speakers) I prefer them just to disappear in the sense that you don't even remember you're using them since they just work.

Aside a lot of clusterfuck experienced with various audio interfaces (TC, M-Audio, etc.), MOTU and Metric Halo have been at some point quite close to "it just works" but they've developed various quirks and issues on me eventually as well plus I thought the MOTU interfaces I owned had something weird with the sound (which is inexplicable for products at that price point).

YMMV but RME is so far the only one that hasn't failed _me_ even once.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Same story here: upgraded from motu to an ufx=> way, way better.
Most obvious to my ears is the clarity for anything above 2khz.
Preamps are much cleaner.
Haven't seen the total mix crash.
Got a super solid clock (haven't heard or seen a single click/pop/sample lost when recording).
DSP Eq and dynamic processing in the same league if not better than motu stuff.

So, yep you can miss:
=>the tuner: logic got one, and there's loads of them around.
=>the oscilloscope, that's the tricky bit. Haven't found one that easy to use.

Overall, absolutely worth it.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Yeah... for practically all current RME interfaces you have the Digicheck which is a damn useful and comprehensive metering / realtime analysis suite, but it doesn't have a basic oscilloscope mode at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Think I will go for the UFX then, also just pre-ordered the O'tool, I think that will work fine as tuner for me instead of the Motu. And then it will even be built into the modular smile
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