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[Re-ORDER!] "Waverider" - Electric Druid VCDO
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Author [Re-ORDER!] "Waverider" - Electric Druid VCDO
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 6:29 am    Post subject: All-Druid synth? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

First post here so apologies for any newby-isms. I'm very excited by this VCDO and the possibility of building a rock-solid, easy-to-setup synth around Druid chips

So, I'm wondering, now that the great Tom Wiltshire has conceived solutions for the VCO, Noise Source, and all the modulation generators needed in a typical synth, that only leaves VCA and VCF. If one were building an all-Wiltshire-sizer:
- would it be best to adhere to Tom's 0-5volt CV standard throughout?
- what would be the best VCA & VCF to use?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, the wavetable nature of the VCDO means that you can have so much fun without needing to route through a VCF. I've been modulating the wavetable with the bipolar output of my Recycler, together with my Modulation Druid - very animated sounds, and a whole new ball game compared to the usual VCO > VCF > VCA signal path.

This week Tom sent me the latest version PIC, which includes a really funky new feature. The 16 sub osc waveforms are arranged in four group of four waveforms. -2oct, -1oct, unison, +1 oct. So, you can drive the subosc waveform select CV input with an ADSR or LFO to create octaved arpeggios! Such a cool feature.

I've also tried the subosc as an LFO at the VCDO's lowest range. While it does not go slow enough for really slow sweeps, it is comfortably sub-audio and can be pressed into service for fast LFO type duties.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sounds great, what a cool idea with the sub octaves!!

Any news about those artifacts mentioned earlier in the thread, are they present in your prototypes too?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 12:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

A few soundclips, I'll be doing more later this evening.

First up, I've got 2 x Waveriders built now, so I'm using my Kenton Pro 4 to use them both as a duo-synth. So this is 2 x Waveriders into 2 x Roland VCAs, controlled by 2 x Recyclers:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Waverider -JMJ.mp3

Some douphonic Kometenmelodie:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Waverider -Kwerk.mp3

This next soundclip uses an LFO (a Modulation Druid) to cycle through the sub-oscillator's octaved waveforms. Just to make it clear, there is no arpeggiator or sequencer being used - all live action:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Waverider -Arpeggiate.mp3

Next up, using both LFO and ADSR to modulate the main wavetable:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Waverider -Anger.mp3

More to come later, expect to see soundclips of a bunch of my various projects tonight.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

oh fucking YES! hihi
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

and the artefacts seems to be a thing of the past? was that a bug?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

WOW, sounds great!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

love

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

right i absolutely want three of these asap please
This is fun!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

tom, i did not read up the whole thread. oops
will there be some documentation uploaded in near future? right now i am actually using only the x4046 VCO by thomas henry, and i would love to build a couple of DCOs if they are PIC based (and that's how i understood it?).

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A couple more clips. This time featuring just the suboscillators - their waveforms are more conventional than the main VCDO output, and lend themselves to some subtractive synthesis.

So here's 2 x Waverider sub oscillators through my Roland 100M 24dB/oct lowpass VCF clone:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Waverider -Subs-LPF.mp3

...and here's 2 x Waverider subs through my Multimode in HPF mode:

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Waverider -Subs-HPF.mp3

This one feature 2 x Waverider subs through different VCFs, with an LFO modulating the waveform/octave of one Waverider to create a pseudo-sequence - no sequencers or arpeggiators were used.

http://www.frequencycentral.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Waverider -Seqsub.mp3

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

frequencycentral wrote:
Crashlander42 wrote:
Want!

Excuse me if this has been answered already and I missed it, but will Electric Druid be posting a project write up on his site for this like he does his other projects?


Yes he will. I expect Tom will do a PDF as he has for his other projects. I'll be putting together build documentation for my project too. The process is this:

- a few tiny changes to the code still to do
- Tom will submit his code to Microchip, he'll get a couple of samples to ensure everything is correct
- Tom will get a bulk order from Microchip
- Waverider bundles will then be available

There is a possibility of 'alternative chip sets' with different sets of waveforms at some point in the future too.

i'd preferred doing my own board, and burning the PIC myself. still possible?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

fonik wrote:

i'd preferred doing my own board, and burning the PIC myself. still possible?


Of course, code and schematic will be open source.

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cool, so who's doing a pcb run? (it's been a long day and my brain aches!)
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mOBiTh wrote:
cool, so who's doing a pcb run? (it's been a long day and my brain aches!)


Me!

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Will there be panels?
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Will there be panels?


Yes there will be panels.

Now I wanna build a 4 voice Waverider based polysynth. My Kenton will run it. Should only need one set of knobs...

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frequencycentral wrote:
mOBiTh wrote:
cool, so who's doing a pcb run? (it's been a long day and my brain aches!)


Me!


cool! im not really stupid, ive just been at work for 14 hours again angry

these sound so bloody good. when do you reckon you'll want money off people?

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frequencycentral wrote:
fonik wrote:

i'd preferred doing my own board, and burning the PIC myself. still possible?


Of course, code and schematic will be open source.

awesome. great attitude, as always.
i really should start to build tom's designs, all the more that i have a decent programmer anyways...

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