Muff's Modules & More

Cybananna · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject:

looks really interesting!

Anyone know the max voltage output? (would be using it with Euro, I guess a few modules have a slight risk of damages at outpus of 15V which some frac modules produce)

Also anyone know the mA requirement?

Muff Wiggler · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:46 pm Post subject:

are there some frac modules that put out 15v? That would be interesting to know and maybe keep a list of - I wasn't aware of this, I thought they all maxed out at 10v +/-5%

i'm not an expert but my understanding is that the risk of damage comes only when an input voltage exceeds the voltage of the power rails. In the case of a euro system, this would be 12v.

So if the frac maximum is truly 10v +/-5%, they are completely safe with all Euro modules.

However if there's a chance some of them could exceed 12v, it would be good to know. I can't really test all my modules, but if there are some in particular you have heard this about, let me know and I will measure the maximum voltage output and get back to you.

Muff Wiggler · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 3:47 pm Post subject:

Cybananna · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:59 pm Post subject:

Off hand the Blacet Frequency Divider output and Binary Zone clock out up to 15V. I think the Klang Werk can output 13.5V max.

I've only looked into Blacet. It's not a problem for most Euro modules It seems. I talked to AH and Peter from Plan B and it sounds like a few are at risk of damage (some of the Doepfer) and you may need to adjust the v/oct scale on the Plan B osc. At AH they said they mix Blacet and Euro all the time. It sounds like it's a small isolated risk, but something to be aware of.

parasitk · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject:

Cybananna · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject:

Here's the topic where I saw that Shawn Cleary linked to a post on the Doepfer Yahoo group about the Frequency Divider 15V and Euro modules.

http://www.analoguehaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19&highlight=freque ncy+divider

Here's the direct link

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/message/11487

It's not from Shawn's mouth but he linked it so I feel confident the info is correct.

Cybananna · Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject:

I forgot, I did ask Blacet about it too and he said no one has complained of a problem to him. Either it's an isolated risk or an "in theory" concern?

sorry for being somewhat OT d'oh!

D/A A/D · Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:03 am Post subject:

One of the best uses of a quadrature lfo I have seen is controlling a series of lowpass gates... So many awesome textures. I have many plans for mine, all of which make me feel funny in the pants.

elemental · Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject:

So who's got a Mankato now?

I'm really curious about this. More as a sine oscillator with FM than anything else. But the other functions would come in handy aswell... especially interested in the different outputs for stereo sounds.
I'd be interested to hear peoples experiences with it.

elemental · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:01 am Post subject:

no one?
Muff?

question

Luka · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:31 am Post subject:

i have a half built one confused

Muff Wiggler · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:58 am Post subject:

ooh sorry for the late reply, getting crazy over here with 'any moment a baby arrives'

yep, i have one.... hopefully soon i can record it for you

super, super, super cool module.... although I haven't really used quadrature functions at audio rates it IS a modulation monster

easily one of my very favorite modules. right up there at the top

eyehue · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:40 pm Post subject:

i have a DIY Mankato, totally love it. but i don't really use it for sine waves (yet). what i do love about it are the shitload of outputs and phasing options, not to mention three attenuated fm inputs. i guess i've done a little experimentation with it as an oscillator by feeding it back into itself and making it cry, haha. i should try more of that method, inspired by a little essay Grant Richter wrote on the Wiard list not too long ago about trying to treat every module as its own little noise box (a la lunetta or atari punk console) and see what you come up with for new ideas of patching.

elemental · Posted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:42 pm Post subject:

Thanks... I'm really into using sines these days, either as audio rate modulation sources or starting points for distortion/wave shaping. I'm currently using an Analogue Systems A-110 as my dedicated clean sine osc. Thing is its quite hard to tune! I also have an AFG on the way which I hear has a good clean sine...
I'm also interested in the multiphase modulation possibilities, and all the filter outputs.

And somehow my interest in the Zeroscillator has been sparked again.... damn the interweb and my geeky surfing habits!!

parasitk · Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 4:29 pm Post subject:

I'd love to hear some more clips of this being used as a quadrature sine oscillator... Anyone?

lotus-eater · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 9:19 am Post subject:

Now that you lucky Mankato owners have had some time to get familiar with this thing, would anyone care to put up some demos? I'd really like to hear some examples of the quadrature oscillators being used for frequency shifting. That expander module (to fill in the functions necessary for FS) would really make this a must-own module for me.

apemandan · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 11:51 am Post subject:

I'd love to hear some too, especially any freq shifting and shepard tones! I have bought the PCB and have just ordered the parts.. In at the DIY deep end!! eek!

suitandtieguy · Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:33 pm Post subject:

are there any Mank owners with 2 ring modulators and a Blacet mixer/processor?

parasitk · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:05 pm Post subject:

Quadrature sine oscillator? FM? Anyone? Please?

fluxmonkey · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 1:09 pm Post subject: