Muff's Modules & More

pleaseohplease

as such let me begin by apologizing.

for the past four months i had to keep my mouth shut on a lot of the, shall it we call it "shenanigans", going on at plan b. Basically, i was depending on peter for my paychecks which were split between modules and cash. As such, i was kind of in his pocket, so to speak. And just to give y'all some insight into my situation, i'm 24 and moved down to la temporarily to work for peter for two months under a work for modules agreement (i had been teaching beforehand and thus had two months worth of paychecks coming my way even though i wasn't working anymore). So i thought, hey maybe i could work for a synth manufacturer, build my own system, and learn about building my own synths along the way. Long story short, peter said he would start paying me after my two months were up, and so i found a place in venice and told him i would stay for four months. We calculated the amount i would get paid each month, along with the weeks he would pay me. More on how he completely ripped me off later...

for now though, i just want to say how sorry i am for all the people who have been affected by plan b. there's a lot you should know, most of it illegal or bordering on illlegal, i'll leave that for others to decide.

There's a lot to say, four months worth of crap that goes on working for a man on the brink of madness, who clearly passed that brink not too long ago (just look at most of his posts here). So, i think i will leave this thread as a place for me to leave excerpts from my journals of working at plan b. I'll fill them in as i take breaks from the beach during my final week in california. Or if anybody has any specific questions feel free to ask.

In the meantime, i would like to say one very important thing.

There are a number of modules in the shop for repair. Most of those modules have been sitting there since i arrived in February. Rather then making an attempt at fixing them peter instead pulls parts from them, or instructs us to pull parts, which we then use to make *new* modules. I've already talked with a fellow synth manufacturer about this and he recommended informing people about this pronto since it is clearly wrong. I decided to wait until i was officially out, and for that i apologize.

That's about all i would like to say for now. I still have a friend employed at plan b who is waiting for a paycheck tomorrow, peter already stiffed me on mine this week. Thus, i don't want to say anything else that might effect roger buying peter's stuff this week and thus fucking over yet another plan b employee. One a week is enough i would hope. (roger if your reading this, please buy peters stuff tomorrow so a least one employee can get paid, luckily i have a family in new york i can go back to, but the other employee is very much dependent on that check.)

Once again, my sincerest apologies for not coming forward sooner. I know in time this will work out for everyone, hopefully.

cerebrosis · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:04 pm Post subject:

disgusting

ignatius · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:06 pm Post subject:

whoa.

scozbor · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject:

Moog$FooL$ · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:17 pm Post subject:

i don't think u really need to apologize for anything.... it's not your company, your gear etc. doesn't sound like u did anything wrong. in fact, good for u stepping up & telling these guys what's actually happening to their modules that are "in for repair" or should we say in for "pilfering"!!

this is absolutely THEFT by PG.!!!!! angry

WRONG little man!!! very fucking wrong Mr. Grenadier!!! u are stealing from people that have bought & paid for your modules.

i'm in no way advocating violence to anyone..... but what i will say is that shit comes around & sooner or later the wrong persons gonna get taken advantage of. then.... well i think u know what i'm driving at.

vav · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject:

Would you be willing to testify is someone brought Peter to court?

Junk Rhythm · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:20 pm Post subject:

wetterberg · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:21 pm Post subject:

I am torn.

first of all man, I feel your pain. And it sucks having to be at the other side of the table for so long!
secondly I'm also madly fascinated by this whole story. Like, om nom popcorn like. I'm sorry, I know that's totally morbid. help

But kudos for coming forward with this. I know a lot of people still aren't in the clear, and this really doesn't look good for their disappeared items :-(

droolmaster0 · Guest

Wow. Joey - that took some courage, I think, to expose that. This is the closest to a 'smoking gun' that we have here.

I publicly apologize for my cynicism as regards your motives. As I said in the pm that I just sent you - in the fog of confusion unleashed by Peter and Jennifer, I wasn't sure just what your 'game' was. But you were trying to do good, and so I'm sorry.

jonkull · Last edited by jonkull on Thu May 21, 2009 7:45 pm; edited 1 time in total

VanEck · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject:

Sorry to hear about your situation man... it seems like the more anyone supports Peter, the harder he screws them.

At the end of all the "shenanigans", those who are closest to him/ work for him/ distribute for him, are the ones to get hit the hardest by this mess... not just those of us with missing or broken merchandise.

You never came across as a corrupt individual in your earlier posts, and it confused me as to why someone of good conscience would continue to work for and defend Peters... with your latest post though, the situation is much clearer now and I can see that you had no choice as you were depending upon him to try and make ends meet.

Thanks for giving us all more insight into the state of things going on in the shadows there, and confirming some of the things that Peter has been vehemently denying.

Also, welcome to the ever growing Adam Henry list. Soon everyone but Peter himself will be on it, as apparently the whole world is out to get him in his mind, and he can do no wrong.

Muff Wiggler

brandon daniel · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:40 pm Post subject:

JohnLRice · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:46 pm Post subject:

yoowza!

SynthBaron · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:08 pm Post subject:

In b4 Peter claims that "PleaseOhPlease" is just some sockpuppet troll for another manufacturer and they don't know what the hell they are talking about.

amnesia · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject:

Well done Joey.

People need to stand up we are all being hurt by this mess.

Now are people starting to see the big picture? The hearsay is real people!

I feel like playing Gavin Briars -The sinking of the Titanic CD

Sad sad times :-(

pleaseohplease · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject:

@all...soliderity!

@vav...yes, i would *love* to tesitify in court about all this.

@drool...just pm'ed you back. but publicly i just want to say how hard it's been to hold back saying that i'm on your side man.

@amnesia...same for you man. all this stuff you've been saying that people have called heresay, i've been sitting here saying, "no, it's all true goddammit". I just couldn't state so until now. it's truly a shame, not only the number of people that peter has screwed over, but how most of those folks were supporters/admirers of his.

apfEID · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject:

Yowza.

BananaPlug · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:43 pm Post subject:

aetherpulse · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 8:48 pm Post subject:

This whole thing has been like watching a train wreck in slow motion!

I hope you guys get your stuff/money eventually...