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Navs
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: Return of the PLL Arabesque Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Using a min/max analogue logic module as a phase comparator. Inspired by dougcl's classic PLL patches and Giftnudel at sequencer.de

http://navsmodularlab.blogspot.com/2012/02/potd-return-of-pll-arabesqu e.html

Not as pretty as the originals, but it works grin

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

A really inspiring post for such a cheap module. Min Max is definitely on the shopping list. Thanks for this applause
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Nav's you're a hero.

Thankfully this is a module I already own so for once I won't need to spend anymore money after reading your blog.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Interesting - I didn't know these were part of the wogglebug
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Awesome!!

Not awesome: gear lust after hearing your PEG demo.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Cheers, guys, but the credit goes to others for this one applause
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

dougcl's original still sends a shiver down my spine, even more so after visiting Morocco last year and realising how "arabesque" it actually sounds.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Sorry to bump an old thread but I'm just trying this out now! Can I ask what it means when you say 'the minimum is subtracted from the maximum'? Do you have a schematic at all? Brill work!

Neil

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Thanks, macs4music, for bumping this thread!

Really inspiring stuff.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You're making me miss euro Navs.

Doug's Arabesque patch is a classic. I think I may have ordered a Doepfer PLL immediately after I saw/heard that.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 15, 2014 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

macs4music wrote:
Sorry to bump an old thread but I'm just trying this out now! Can I ask what it means when you say 'the minimum is subtracted from the maximum'?


Haha! Zombie threads rise like old friends smile

macs4music, use a polarizing mixer or invert the 'min' signal to subtract it from the 'max' in a normal mixer ...

Maths is not just the name of a popular module, it's what we do all the time when patching: a VCA, for example, is a multiplier. It multiplies one signal by another. A mixer is an adder, it gives you the sum of its inputs.

So, for the PLL patch, we're adding a positive value with a negative value. In effect subtracting: 1 plus minus 1 = 0 etc.

Sorry if this is obvious, but I find it helps. You can use this simple maths to generate all manner of complexity in your patches.

dkcg wrote:
You're making me miss euro Navs.


You'll be back twisted lol

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