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kindredlost Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:48 am Post subject: Q150 Slope Selection Modifiication |
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A thread started in the DIY section might be of interest here for some dotcom'ers...
http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=773403#773403
Basically it is to use a toggle switch to select the 1, 2 or 3 pole slopes on the -12dB setting of the Q150 Transistor Ladder Filter from synthesizers.com.
I ran out of time to do a demo of what these settings sound like. The 3 pole setting approaches the Q107 standard sound without reaching Q oscillation. The 1 pole setting is very flat and subtle but lets almost full spectrum frequency range through. Or at least that was my late-night impression of the settings.
A fun modification. It took me forever to find this switch and there are only a couple left in inventory at Mouser in case anyone wants to do this mod for themselves. Just sayin' _________________ OpenTape
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Jsantos360 Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 11:07 am Post subject: |
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You can't eliminate the "pops" that are caused by the slope switch
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kindredlost Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Jsantos360 wrote: | You can't eliminate the "pops" that are caused by the slope switch
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True. The pop is used to make percussive treatments.  _________________ OpenTape
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Squattamolie Common Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I did this a while ago, the link is to a video showing the slope selection on the Q150
Q150 switchable slopes
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Jsantos360 Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Squattamolie wrote: | I did this a while ago, the link is to a video showing the slope selection on the Q150
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And it was amazing! Loved your demos so much I sent my Q150 and Q107 to my best modman, Phil @ MegaOhm. After trying several different things, we decided to do the toggle mod on the Q107 and leave the Q150 deadstock. The "pop" was a bit too much for me  _________________ "Put Captain Solo in the cargo hold." |
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kindredlost Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:02 pm Post subject: |
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| Squattamolie wrote: | I did this a while ago, the link is to a video showing the slope selection on the Q150
Q150 switchable slopes
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Exactly why I wanted to try it. Thanks for the video and inspiration Squattamolie.
My goal was to do it with a miniature toggle switch. I was told a slide or rotary was the best way but I got lucky and found a toggle solution. It was so neat and simple that I thought I'd try to document it.
BTW, how did you tie into the shunt array? I decided to go for a non-permanent way. Naturally, the panel drilling is rather permanent so I was only so successful.
The popping really isn't going to be a problem from my standpoint. I doubt I'll be switching it during a performance and even then there are work arounds such as fading down (damping) before the switch or maybe even a circuit solution. I know Tony Allgood (Oakley Synth) has made this happen on the SVF and other modules. He is of course, very clever. A category I obviously don't belong in. _________________ OpenTape
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Squattamolie Common Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:21 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the kind words!
As to the "pop", my semi-lame-but-still-effective workaround is that I set the factory 12/24 toggle to "24", then I can turn the rotary to select 6/12/18 dB slopes without the pop, then switch the 12/24 toggle back - it does the job, and "pop-lessly".
As to the "shunt array" - I am i_g_n_o_r_a_n_t of electrical things, I've never even heard the term. No clue, no kidding!
I just figured out that if I could get a rotary switch to move the contacts that a user moves manually with the jumpers, it should work - right? And it did.
One thing that made it easier was . . . (I have no idea how to describe this) . . . I only had to attach 8 wires to the set of jumper pins instead of 12. I'll try to upload a graphic of the jumper pins . . .
For one slope (6 or 18, I forget), you need yellow/blue and yellow/magenta, for the 12dB slope, you need green/blue and green/magenta, for the last one you need orange/blue and orange magenta - (I realize this is probably about how a 10 year-old would try to explain this - like I said, I'm a complete noob). What this meant was that I only needed one wire from the rotary to (just) one of the blue pins, and another single wire for the magenta, then the six wires to the other six pins.
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kindredlost Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:35 am Post subject: |
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Right.
The same technique for me. Not enough knowledge to prevent me from making it work.  _________________ OpenTape
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