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mono-poly Le Cheff
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:20 am Post subject: I'd love to see an eurorack mixer |
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Love to see a nice mixer module with 1 or 2 aux send/return options.
6 or 8 mono channels. _________________ WTB Buchla 100 modules
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mig27 Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Agreed.
I like the functionality of my external A&H Zed14 Mixer, namely 4 Auxes, decent EQs, good faders. But sometimes I'd prefer to keep everything inside the big modular. |
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Clockgate At paranoia's poison door
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mono-poly Le Cheff
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:02 pm Post subject: |
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Eq isn't that import for me but some good summing and aux busses would be great.
And i know the Behringer stuff but love to see a module. _________________ WTB Buchla 100 modules
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Hainbach Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Clockgate wrote: | Something like this maybe?
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Repeater Phantom Powers
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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Two Doepfer or Harvestman matrix mixers? Seems to me like the cheapest and most flexible configuration for this sort of thing. _________________ Repeater Electronics:
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mono-poly Le Cheff
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chinard Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 12:41 pm Post subject: |
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not exactly what you are asking for but the Mutajen can kinda be patched this way. It has 3 output busses with an attenuator on two of them
Better option of course is a matrix mixer.
I would also love to see a couple of aux send/recieve busses on the next generation of mutajen.. hint hint..  |
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mildheadwound Common Wiggler
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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It cracks me up when i see people with these awesome modular setups plugged into the most embarrassing mixers and sound cards. I was really holding out for the Toppobrillo mixiplexer... but then he changed the design.  |
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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| chinard wrote: |
I would also love to see a couple of aux send/recieve busses on the next generation of mutajen.. hint hint..  |
This. I love my mutagen but would like to see an aux buss or two even at the cost of additional hp. Maybe a couple of 1/4" outs would be nice too. |
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numan7 numan "sonic" seven
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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but we have mixer modules in euro, chef mono (quite a few of them, in fact)!
as suggested above, if you need send/return "buses" just patch up a matrix mixer
module channel or two.
as far as 4 x 2 mixer modules go, have you tried the circuit abbey unify?
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Rudy D. Wiggling with Experience
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Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: I'd love to see an eurorack mixer |
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| mono-poly wrote: | Love to see a nice mixer module with 1 or 2 aux send/return options.
6 or 8 mono channels. |
yeah something like mutagen just with vc send return busses - that would be the s.....  |
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ersatzplanet Synthwerks Design
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:00 pm Post subject: |
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This question comes up often. I happen to be sitting on a ton of Pots and have thought of making a mixer. The big question that I have is would a non-CV controlled mixer be enough? I was thinking of a modular mixer - input channel sections that could be chained for expansion (4-channel blocks) and separate output blocks. That way you could make it as big as you want. different output blocks would have different features (LED meters, limiters, slide pots, headphone monitors etc.).
I know everyone really wants CV control of everything but If you want to keep the cost down and still offer a good sound it is better to leave the CV out. Maybe one of the variations of input channel blocks could have CV control but it would cost more to have it.
I myself have rarely wanted an in-cabinet mixer. I have plenty of outboard ones that have great EQ (which is more helpful than many think) effects, and multiple Aux sends etc. Any mixer in cabinet will take up lots of HP. Think of the space needed for a Sequencer and you are close.
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intellijel Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| chinard wrote: | not exactly what you are asking for but the Mutajen can kinda be patched this way. It has 3 output busses with an attenuator on two of them
Better option of course is a matrix mixer.
I would also love to see a couple of aux send/recieve busses on the next generation of mutajen.. hint hint..  |
A nice way to create a VC Aux send is to use stackables/mults and VCAs+simple mixers.
So let's say I wanted to send my VCO signal to a delay:
mult the output of the VCO and send one of the signal copies to a channel of the uVCA. Send the output of the uVCA to the FX input. Bring the FX output to a Unity Mixer module along with the second copy of the VCO signal. Now you have VC control of the FX send.
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mono-poly Le Cheff
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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James,
Sounds good to me.
I don't need cv control.
I just need:
- level
- panning
- aux send
4 channels and chainable sounds great! _________________ WTB Buchla 100 modules
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mono-poly Le Cheff
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REwire Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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For Non-Insert effects like Reverbs and Delays I find that I prefer to send to effects after the VCA so that the sound can decay after I let go of a keyed gate. Then those effects only process a signal that is not at constant input level and can ring out.
The Makenoise QMMG (Optomix and Plan-B Model 13 too) have Sum Outs that combine multiple channels to a mono send. For stereo effects I mult the stereo output of the QMMG to those.
The same can be accomplished for Insert effects like distortion, compression, wavefiolders, etc by mixers that have separate patch outs like only the ex-Plan-B Model 9 and the Pittsburgh. Mutagens are good for their bussing which I use to send oscs to different effect busses of buffers and attenuators.
Turns out Analogue Solutions actually makes a mixer channel system with individual channel strips with effect sends and master send return modules.
BTW, I'm curious by your subject line which says "..An Euro" which to me is gramattically incorrect unless you pronounce Euro like "Arrow" rather than like "Your row"
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sgnhh Super Deluxe Wiggler
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Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:29 pm Post subject: |
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i like the idea of an inclusive euro mixer simply because it means i won't have to drag more gear around. in my planned 15u system, i'm currently shooting for 2x of the new mutagens, an azimuth, a circuit abbey unify, and 4ms vca matrix. pretty flexible, playable, and beats dragging around a 12+ input mixer. equalizers would be nice, though. _________________ webs: http://smkstcks.tumblr.com/
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