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CV inverting without an inverter?
 
 
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Kaput
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: CV inverting without an inverter? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

One of my favourite things in the modular world is discovering ways of using modules for things they weren't originally designed to do... so I'm wondering if CVs can be inverted without a dedicated inverter module like the Doepfer A-175?

I'm curious.

Can it be done? seriously, i just don't get it

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

you can use a polarizer like the doepfer A-133, a ringmod or modDemix.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 03, 2012 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Use the CV to control the amplitude of a fixed negative voltage.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This was one of the reasons I bought an A-133, along with using it as attenuators, ring mods... Navs
has a great page on this. A very basic thing my current (pathetic little) rig struggles with is producing a fixed voltage, end up feeding something into A-119 to force the gate out on. But I also want to use the 119 as on overdrive...
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Can you use a patch cable with one end wired backwards? (Tip-to-sleeve, sleeve-to-tip)
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Without a dedicated module, right? Yes, sort of.

Got a VC ADSR with an inverted output? Turn A, D & R to zero. Sustain becomes your voltage. Gate the envelope and send your CV to control the sustain level. Tap the inverted output.

But really, just get a bloody inverter lol

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Navs wrote:
Without a dedicated module, right? Yes, sort of.

Got a VC ADSR with an inverted output? Turn A, D & R to zero. Sustain becomes your voltage. Gate the envelope and send your CV to control the sustain level. Tap the inverted output.

But really, just get a bloody inverter


Or a foni mixer... Four tunable invertable offsets.
Cant live wo it.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Buckyball wrote:
Can you use a patch cable with one end wired backwards? (Tip-to-sleeve, sleeve-to-tip)

No you can't, as the circuitry still has a common ground (from the power supply).

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