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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: modulation orgy queries Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

hi all


got some queries on the modulation orgy:

anyone know if it morphs between the wave shapes when you CV the wave shape? or does it step between them? ....if it steps, are there glitches or anything when it does so?

am seriously considering this, but could do with knowing a bit more about how it works first.

basically - if you sent a slow AR envelope from Maths into the waveshape CV input, what would happen?

in fact, what would happen with the divisions too? would it suddenly change from one to the next, and if so, does it do so in time with the sync pulse that is coming into it? ....would be a bit weird if it suddenly jumped to the next division/ multiplication in a random place....but i'm guessing it would do it on the next available clock/sync pulse after crossing the "threshold" for the next one.

any help welcome

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

nobody got one then?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Good question..........
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:
Good question..........


oh, i'm full of 'em!

would also like to know this kind of thing in relation to the 4ms PEG seriously, i just don't get it

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I don't have the mod orgy, but I have the PEG.

I actually don't know, as I haven't tried it yet. Ill give it a shot. I *think* its continuous, but will have to check.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

IIRC, I think I read somewhere that the waveform changes are not continuous on the Orgy. I'd love to be wrong, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

On the peg you can modulate skew and curve to all hell and never change the time of the envelope length.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i was thinking about getting one of these. is it alot different than the dalek modulator from livewire??
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hi mattech... I'm curious about this as well, I got one recently and believe it morphs, but perhaps you could tell me what to look for or how to test it I would gladly run some trials and see what happens so we can get some answers.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Well, you could try the following:

Put a clock into the sync input.

The get a reasonably slow sine wave and stick it into each of the cv inputs in turn (set the manual controls on the right hand side to 12 o clock, so that it can sweep the various parameters in both directions)

Then just note whether it suddenly changes wave shape/ division.....or whether it gradually morphs from one setting to the next.

Am guessing that the divisions (called multiplication I think, coming to think about it..) Will suddenly change, once the cv Voltage passes through the threshold between them.....otherwise it'd just be another vc-lfo, and I think the selling point is that it is always in musical divisions/multiples of the clock. The waveshapes might morph gradually though....will be interesting to find out

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

According to Mr. Slocum,

dslocum wrote:
7thDanSound wrote:
Cool thing! Does the Waveform CV sweep smoothly or step?


The Waveform is stepped, but the Wave Distort is continuous.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just tried it and ^^^^^ is correct... This module is MY ASS IS BLEEDING
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

d'oh!
it seems to step on the other settings as well... only morphs on wave distortion from what I could tell

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

does it change waveform on a clock pulse, or simply whenever the cv source makes it change?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

matttech wrote:
does it change waveform on a clock pulse, or simply whenever the cv source makes it change?


anyone know the answer to this? - say, if i CV the waveform with a slow LFO, does it wait until a clock/sync pulse to change......or does it suddenly change in a rhythmically irrelevant place?

the former would obviously be preferable (to me anyway...), as a sudden change from sine to square would sound odd if it wasn't on a "beat" (well, for more "normal" compositions anyway...)

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

matttech wrote:
a sudden change from sine to square would sound odd if it wasn't on a "beat" (well, for more "normal" compositions anyway...)


This sounds more like a feature to me :-)

A bit more seriously, I do hope change of waveforms are not synchroised to clock pulse. I can imagine synchronising the change with an external clock + sah but the opposite sounds not possible. So I'd rather have both options.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

any more info on these questions? curious as well.

they're sold out from AH.. i think they're on ebay though.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i played with it at schneiders and didn't get on with it at all....too jerky in its changes for me
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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

matttech wrote:
i played with it at schneiders and didn't get on with it at all....too jerky in its changes for me


i'm still curious about it. i'd love to hear the jerkiness and how stepped it is etc.

there's a couple videos but hard to hear exactly the jerkiness.. but some clicks/pops in there towards the end of this one.


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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i have one! fun module.

the waveforms are largely PIC lookuptables i think so yes the changes between waveform types and frequency multipliers are discrete.

this is good news for rhythmic speed changes and maybe not so good for morphing the waveform types. depends what youre after of course.

morphing distortion is continuous

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