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whitewulfe
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: I am still lusting Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

wsy wrote:
No news yet from Igorr. I hope he finds his new op amp supplier soon!

- Bill


Not to mention word on a revised, slimmer (preferably under 3" deep!) module ^_^
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hello to everyone!
Tomorrow I hope to receive the first assembled boards for 3 units in SMT format.
The depth is limited only by the Switchraft 112A jacks, so every cabinet will be able to accommodate the new revision units.
Unfortunately I was delayed for two weeks by fake TL074 quad opams. Some "clever" people succeeded to make fakes of the already cheapest opam. These fakes work, but much slower than they should, you can’t even make a buffer with them – the signal fronts will be eaten.
I will contact all the interested fellows when the units will be prepared.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 7:40 pm    Post subject: PMed and paypalled! Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

igorrr wrote:
Hello to everyone!
Tomorrow I hope to receive the first assembled boards for 3 units in SMT format.
The depth is limited only by the Switchraft 112A jacks, so every cabinet will be able to accommodate the new revision units.
Unfortunately I was delayed for two weeks by fake TL074 quad opams. Some "clever" people succeeded to make fakes of the already cheapest opam. These fakes work, but much slower than they should, you can’t even make a buffer with them – the signal fronts will be eaten.
I will contact all the interested fellows when the units will be prepared.


One unit PMed !

- Bill

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I just found another cool trick with the Super Sawtor module and wanted to share it:

Using a Dotcom Q106 oscillator, which has simultaneous UP saw and DOWN saw outputs (or if your osc only has one of these, you can use a multiple and an inverter to create the missing one), patch the UP saw to the top half of the module and the DOWN saw to the bottom half and set the spread controls on the two sections to just slightly different settings. Try setting the spread control on the top section to "3" and the bottom section to "3.01". Now send these to separate VCAs to keep the signals separate and give them a slight stereo spread at the synth output or at the mixer. It's a massive detuned saw sound with an added hollow flange effect in stereo as the slightly different settings cause the positive & negative elements within the supersaws to partially cancel. Nice!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Dave Peck wrote:
I just found another cool trick with the Super Sawtor module and wanted to share it:

Using a Dotcom Q106 oscillator, which has simultaneous UP saw and DOWN saw outputs (or if your osc only has one of these, you can use a multiple and an inverter to create the missing one), patch the UP saw to the top half of the module and the DOWN saw to the bottom half and set the spread controls on the two sections to just slightly different settings. Try setting the spread control on the top section to "3" and the bottom section to "3.01". Now send these to separate VCAs to keep the signals separate and give them a slight stereo spread at the synth output or at the mixer. It's a massive detuned saw sound with an added hollow flange effect in stereo as the slightly different settings cause the positive & negative elements within the supersaws to partially cancel. Nice!
Cool Dave! we're not worthy I'll have to give it a try! thumbs up
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 10:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Will try that also thanx!
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Received an e-mail from Igor that the SMT versions of the Super Sawtor are in stock. Placed my order this morning. w00t

Now all of you with modules from the original batch can go around talking about how you have the vintage Super Sawtors with a sound that the newer SMT version just can't replicate. hihi (hides)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

VinceL wrote:
Received an e-mail from Igor that the SMT versions of the Super Sawtor are in stock. Placed my order this morning. w00t

Now all of you with modules from the original batch can go around talking about how you have the vintage Super Sawtors with a sound that the newer SMT version just can't replicate. hihi (hides)


Way ahead of you, Vince Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Dave Peck wrote:
VinceL wrote:
Received an e-mail from Igor that the SMT versions of the Super Sawtor are in stock. Placed my order this morning. w00t

Now all of you with modules from the original batch can go around talking about how you have the vintage Super Sawtors with a sound that the newer SMT version just can't replicate. hihi (hides)


Way ahead of you, Vince Mr. Green


Way ahead of YOU, Dave. SlayerBadger!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:55 am    Post subject: I got mine yesterday!!! Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I got my V2 Super Sawtor in the mail yesterday (but couldn't actually power it up till
today).

Sounds: GREAT! The closest thing to the Awesome Button yet. It's a very different
sound from either a wavefolder or a phaser (my other two favorite anti-filters).

The new design is REALLY shallow - most of the circuitry fits between the sidebends
of an MU-type front panel. The jacks are free-floating (short pigtails to the PCBs);
mine has the PCBs jumpered together with tie wires so it only uses up one Dotcom
power connector (I'm not sure if this one was made up this way special for me by
Igor or whether it's now Igor's standard).

And it sounds WONDERFUL. The new SMT units go from absolutely no
effect on the sound, up through Roland SuperSaw, to crazy detuned noise.

I'll try to get a Youtube video up. It's great.

Thanks, Igor!

- Bill

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Where da euro at?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I received my Super Sawtor module the other day and played with it today.

Outstanding.

Great price, fast shipping, excellent communication. Folks, this one's a no-brainer. Highly recommended.

Great work, Igor!

thumbs up Guinness ftw!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

russma wrote:
Folks, this one's a no-brainer. Highly recommended.


My friend Andrew was in CO last week, and he brought his Super Sawtor along. The sound blew me away. Just amazing, and I'd agree it is a no-brainer.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Good deal Russ! thumbs up Is yours the newer surface mount one?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

JohnLRice wrote:
Good deal Russ! thumbs up Is yours the newer surface mount one?


Yes.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Is euro on it's way? hmmm.....
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The Euro version is in development. The board is 90% routed. It takes considerable amount of time for me to do SMT routing as no auto route function and 6 layer pcb are used.
The target date of Euro version release is late September.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 4:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

igorrr wrote:
The Euro version is in development. The board is 90% routed. It takes considerable amount of time for me to do SMT routing as no auto route function and 6 layer pcb are used.
The target date of Euro version release is late September.


I'm surprised you can't just put one of the MU-sized boards edge-in.

Your board is *tiny*... and beautiful. smile

- Bill

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

numan7 wrote:
ping panic wrote:
Wow I need one, I'm the supersaw (and trance) fanboy #1


confused i thought that Tronketz was the #1 supersaw fanboi! hihi


Not fanboi, guru. thumbs up

And here's something you can try with sawtor, try setting up a dry/wet patch with the sawtor so that you can have the dry single saw playing louder than the ensemble that sawtor creates.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 9:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

To add to the above patch:

Use keytracking so that low notes have less sawtor signal and high notes have more sawtor.

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