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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:39 am    Post subject: Is there a module with a ever changing LFO Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I am tired and brain dead so maybe this is really obvious but...

Is there a self contained module with an ever changing LFO ? I guess a Sample Hold is the closet thing I can thing of.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Constantly changing voltages? Wogglebug, Noisering, A-149? That type of thing? Or do you mean something that morphs the waveshape of the LFO, sort of like a wavetable LFO?
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

A ChaQuo should definitely work.
Good for continous but never repeating modulation, and can even sync it to other stuff, so it'll kind follow a master clock f. e.
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exper wrote:
Constantly changing voltages? Wogglebug, Noisering, A-149? That type of thing? Or do you mean something that morphs the waveshape of the LFO, sort of like a wavetable LFO?


I guess more like a wavetable LFO

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

how about the upcoming E355

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48947&highlight=synte ch+e355

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The PEG is really great at ever evolving modulations. Just patch it up for feedback. It's really nice when you patch one the EOR/EOF/Half-R trigger of one envelope into the Ping of the other and then have one evelope modulate the any of Div/Skew/Cureve of the other.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The A-118 Noise/Random voltage module has a sub-audio random voltage out. I don't know how low it goes but if you lagged it (or maybe did some component changes) you might get it down really low. Dieter will tell you how on the Doepfer Yahoo list.
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

E350 also can act as an LFO and you can cycle through its various waveforms. its c bank is designed specifically for it.

SSL Modulation Orgy also. the waveforms are much simpler, but there's a distort parameter that you can also feed cv into.

the E350 though is cool since it morphs smoothly between the changes using that proprietary algorithm. I guess the upcoming E355 will be even better!
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 12:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

running a 118 through a slew is THE JAM. that's a great module. my go to for snares as well!
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 2:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If DIY is an option, check out the PsychoLFO or the Super Psycho Modulation Source from CGS. Ken Stone sells PCBs. Not wavetable though, if that is what you want. The Super PCB might be too big for Euro. I built the Psycho, and it does a nice unpredictable wobble LFO.
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

studiokpg wrote:
Not wavetable though...


I doubt a wavetable fits the bill since it is not ever changing.

The A117 Rnd Out is very cool! The Oakley S&H comes with in build in lag thus it is a bit more self contained than other S&H. I built mine for Frac thus it could be built for Euro, too.

The A149 is not really ever changing. For some reason I never really dig the Woggle Bug (may be a building error on my part).

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I'd say S/H with a slew should be a good start.
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amnesia wrote:
exper wrote:
Constantly changing voltages? Wogglebug, Noisering, A-149? That type of thing? Or do you mean something that morphs the waveshape of the LFO, sort of like a wavetable LFO?


I guess more like a wavetable LFO


Guys, he's looking for morphing waveshapes, not random voltages...

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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Is the question about an LFO that is continually changing / morphing but within controlled limits? I thought of something like a chaotic oscillator such as the Elby Chaquo or the LFO section in a Snazzy FX Dreamboat.

A circuit incorporating a chaotic attractor will provide a signal that changes over time but remains within a region of phase space. In that sense the output is like a continuously morphing wave. It is not random.

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You could write a sketch for the Ardcore
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Woggle Bug! Woggle Bug Woggle Bug! Woggle Bug
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you might be interested in the upcoming make noise marzipan module.
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Gribs wrote:
Is the question about an LFO that is continually changing / morphing but within controlled limits? I thought of something like a chaotic oscillator such as the Elby Chaquo or the LFO section in a Snazzy FX Dreamboat.
A circuit incorporating a chaotic attractor will provide a signal that changes over time but remains within a region of phase space. In that sense the output is like a continuously morphing wave. It is not random.

That's right, the chaos-circuit solution gives more control of a greater variety of patterns. (That's what they were developed for.)

Elby's version of Chaotica is coming soon -- it includes for the first time extensive voltage-control of the system's parameters, as well as a greater variety of patterns.

Check it out!
http://home.comcast.net/~ijfritz/Chaos/ch_cir6_chaotica.htm

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sgnhh wrote:
you might be interested in the upcoming make noise marzipan module.


seriously, i just don't get it

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

frijitz wrote:

Elby's version of Chaotica is coming soon --


Like Teezer soon or sooner?

No offense intended but I'm currently scanning for
a few interesting modulation options and your module
is on the radar. But a bird in the hand is worth two in
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