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lionelfischer
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:26 pm    Post subject: analog clock to midi and vice versa Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

i have been playing music with a friend who uses all old school drum machines and synths with midi and din sync. all my instruments are modular with analog clock signals. i am currently using a doepfer msy2 to convert a midi clock signal from one of his synths into an analog clock signal i can feed my modular.

i'm looking to upgrade though and get a device that will convert any of his midi/din clocks to analog clock but also have the ability to convert my analog clock pulses to a midi or din clock to feed his rig. an added bonus would be able to dial in specific BPMs, but i can live without that function because we could always dial in a BPM on one of his drum machines or something and convert his midi/din to analog clock if we wanted to do that thing.

the innerclock stuff with all its trippy time travel syncing and phasing and polyrhythm stuff seems appealing to me but i'm not sure what the best product is for me to invest in. any thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

This is IMHO, the best game in town for what you describe:

http://www.noisebug.net/site/analoguesolutions/index.cfm?ID=97

Note: I also say this being someone who has HUGE issues with ASol gear. Lots of things I don't like about their gear...this is the only thing of theirs in my studio currently, but I would defend it against evil with as much gusto as any other favorite module.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Exuviae wrote:
This is IMHO, the best game in town for what you describe:

http://www.noisebug.net/site/analoguesolutions/index.cfm?ID=97

Note: I also say this being someone who has HUGE issues with ASol gear. Lots of things I don't like about their gear...this is the only thing of theirs in my studio currently, but I would defend it against evil with as much gusto as any other favorite module.

Brooks


the noisebug site is down or not working right now. whats the name of the Asol product you were linking to so i can find it somewhere else?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Noisebug sells them on eBay, too:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Analogue-Solutions-MB4-Midi-to-Clock-Eurorack- Module-/280895206554?pt=Keyboards_MIDI&hash=item4166a8b49a

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm interested in generating midi from analog clock/gate signals also.
I looked up the Analogue Solutions MB4 that Exuviae mentioned but
I don't think it does clock -> midi only midi -> clock.

The innerclock module looks like it is built to have the
clock source be the output of their software rather
than an analog clock and is expensive.

Is there a module around that has a 16th note analog clock
and stop/start gate inputs and will output MIDI and DIN SYNC signals?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

FWIW, that module is basically the midi section of the Oberkorn sequencer.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I want to convert Analog Clock to MIDI. What does this ?

I'm confused by the different choices offered by Innerclock, but i love the descriptions, the musical and cool ways to sync and not sync your stuff
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

There is a SND Acme-4 in the BST ATM. Not cheap though...
wish I had the dosh to grab it.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The korg monotribe with our very own darenager's midi device converts analogue clock to midi clock. cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I went on a quest to figure out how to do this a while back and all I came up with was Arduino + custom code. I haven't tried that yet, but I've had success generating MIDI data... seems like it could work.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Mood Organ wrote:
I went on a quest to figure out how to do this a while back and all I came up with was Arduino + custom code. I haven't tried that yet, but I've had success generating MIDI data... seems like it could work.


jeez there is no other way ?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Flame clockwork.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You might be able to at least convert analog clock to DIN using the new Expert Sleepers cable, check this thread:

http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=59508&start=0&postday s=0&postorder=asc&highlight=

No MIDI from analog though, still, it's probably the cheapest option available. The new Innerclock eurorack module will convert to both MIDI and DIN, but it's pretty pricey.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

oh wow i didnt know the new innerclock euro module converted analog clock to midi, i thought it was just for connecting a computer to the eurorack. so maybe innerclock is the ticket? looks slimmer than clockwork
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I don't think it's mentioned anywhere in the official info, it was in this thread:

ThinLazy wrote:
Will this module generate a midi clock signal that is slaved
to an inputted analog trigger pulse?


innerclock wrote:
...I just had the Sync-Gen IILS happily running off a TipTop Z-3000 Square Wave...smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

lionelfischer wrote:
I want to convert Analog Clock to MIDI. What does this ?

I'm confused by the different choices offered by Innerclock, but i love the descriptions, the musical and cool ways to sync and not sync your stuff


An Akai ME35T does audio to MIDI

... I believe there is one for sale at the moment... some guy called digital_steve (legend, big knob) is selling one cheap.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

qu.one wrote:
Flame clockwork.


I wish. No analog clock input.

Sounds like the Innerclock module might do it...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

a scanner darkly wrote:
I don't think it's mentioned anywhere in the official info, it was in this thread:

ThinLazy wrote:
Will this module generate a midi clock signal that is slaved
to an inputted analog trigger pulse?


innerclock wrote:
...I just had the Sync-Gen IILS happily running off a TipTop Z-3000 Square Wave...smile


Ha, that's funny, that's my question I asked. I forgot that they said
you could clock the innerclock from an analog signal.
What type of analog clock (how many pulses per quarter)
does the innerclock module take as an input?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Mood Organ wrote:
qu.one wrote:
Flame clockwork.


I wish. No analog clock input.

Sounds like the Innerclock module might do it...


But it generates it's own clock, can send out midi synced to its own analog clock and then also send out three channels plus. It would be the master controller and that's what it was always intended as seriously, i just don't get it

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qu.one wrote:
Mood Organ wrote:
qu.one wrote:
Flame clockwork.


I wish. No analog clock input.

Sounds like the Innerclock module might do it...


But it generates it's own clock, can send out midi synced to its own analog clock and then also send out three channels plus. It would be the master controller and that's what it was always intended as seriously, i just don't get it


Yeah, but I'm looking for a way to sync things to a drum machine that puts out an analog clock. It has no clock in & no MIDI. Clockwork is cool as a master controller to drive modular and drum machine/samplers/whatever in sync, but it will not make a MIDI clock signal from an analog clock input.

(probably I should just have the drum machine modded)

I'm not sure about that Akai 35T... seems like it's meant for creating 'note on' signals, switching MIDI channels, etc. Not the same as generating a MIDI clock, I don't think. But I'm not fluent in MIDI so someone correct me if I'm wrong there.
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