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dj2sday · Last edited by dj2sday on Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:23 am; edited 1 time in total

Im finding when i use the envelopes in silent way/es4/logic i get some whisky noise when they do there thing. you can hear it in this example. any ideas what I'm doing wrong?
[s]http://soundcloud.com/peace-pipe-productions/a108-24db-bassline[/s]

es4 out to a108 cv2 in
es4 out to cwejman vca4mx in

os · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:42 am Post subject:

Not sure what I'm listening for - it sounds good to me.

mojopin · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:59 am Post subject:

i hear the squeaky sound. i don't see how the envelopes could be the problem. maybe it is the filter? because along with the squeaks it is very noisy. i don't own any doepfer but nothing in my modular is that noisy. i do have the 4mx and it is the cleanest of all my vcas.

dj2sday · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:34 am Post subject:

It only happens when I use the envelopes. When I trigger external envelopes it's perfect.

mojopin · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:49 am Post subject:

then maybe that sound is in the envelope? have you tried to listen to them?

os · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:55 am Post subject:

Are you using the full range of the envelopes, or are you scaling them back in the software? If the latter, try putting them back up to full range in the plug-in and then attenuating them externally, if required.

dj2sday · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:46 pm Post subject:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/peace-pipe-productions/es4-noise-env-pt-2[/s]

the only change is swapping A142 decay and voice controller envelope one in A108 cv2 @ 50% middle section is the SW VC envelopes.

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dj2sday · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 12:48 pm Post subject:

they are at full. every place in the signal chain is at unity as well.

dj2sday · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:10 pm Post subject:

only seems to happen when the transport is in play or record(moving) very frustrating

os · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 3:15 pm Post subject:

Really? You're saying that if you trigger the env with the transport stopped it sounds different than when the transport is playing?

dj2sday · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:22 am Post subject:

No, my bad. It seems like audio bleed through. It happens in logic and live. I will try another audio interface. Have you heard of bleed through before??

dj2sday · Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 7:42 pm Post subject:

Anyone else have noise from envelopes? It happens with Lfo's too

dj2sday · Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject:

please. you can't tell me that last example is normal!!!!!!!!!!! I have tried everything very frustrating

polytoxicommander · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:59 am Post subject:

+edit+

dj2sday · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:21 am Post subject:

ok. still no resolution:

I;

swithced cables from audio interface

switched resolution from 44.1 to 96 k

switched from snow leopard to lion

switched from live to logic to live again

upgraded to 2.0

switched to every port on the ES4

turned every output off and tried one at a time with just env out.

tried above with all three envelopes

just used lfo

this renders the software unusable for me. even as a simple trigger generator doesn't work as well as a midi cv as the gates don't fire every time. I am asking for help.

If this is a hardware problem how would i get it fixed?

If this is the way it is is there a way to transfer my SW license?

thank you for your time.

Andrew

polytoxicommander · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:03 pm Post subject:

dont have an es-4, but is it possible that maybe some unused but activated voicecontrollerchannels are adding cv to the envelope?

dj2sday · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:04 pm Post subject:

nope.

polytoxicommander · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject:

have had a problem with my adat connection a time ago.
The outputs were noisy because of this.
maybe you could try another spdif cable? seriously, i just don't get it

stk · Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:10 pm Post subject:

Have you tried a different audio interface? That would be my first step.

Also, what interface are you currently using? Laptop or desktop computer?

the fact that nobody else has reported the problems you are experiencing points to something in your setup causing the problem.

dj2sday · Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 6:15 pm Post subject:

agreed stk. i am using a presonus firebox on a mbP.

everyone i know is either duet or hd protools.