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Waz
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 Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:24 am Post subject: Rethinking my entire workflow. |
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I've had a lot of time with my modular and I am seriously rethinking everything from the ground up. At first it was buy buy buy! I wanted to have the synth stuff that everyone had, but think I have found the sound I am looking for. I like long self evolving patches, timbres, ambiance and glitches. My current setup can accommodate a lot of this, but I want complete chaos and control of said chaos.
A lot of stuff is on the chopping block;
1st - lowgain mixer (too distorted)
2nd - e350. It's nice for drones, but slamming hot signals into the CV inputs makes it go out of tune.
3rd - z8000 Ive had it for a long ass time and we just didn't click.
4th - a156. I thought I'd really need a quantizer, but maybe not.
5th - QMMG - I really don't need 4 LPGs
The HD was almost on the block because of personal reasons. It shipped kinda defected and Harvestman said he'd help, but never did. However, its an amazing freakin' module. And, maybe he was just swamped at the time.
Anyway, I'm looking for replacements here. I've been out of the eurorack market for almost 2 years now.
The most important to me;
- A signal out module that has a fucking stereo headphone out and also separate LR outs. I need headphone monitoring!!!!
-F(h) modules - A minimum of 2 PB's, but I'm aiming for 3 in this case if I can. I also want a v'Amp. I have an imp on standby, but I have a second DIY case.
Any suggestions? I have debated selling the whole thing and getting the creature/ gator or DUSG combo. I would keep a small DIY case for myself.
Also, my favorite modules come from f(h). I absolutely love the quirkiness of his designs. |
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Are you sure about the QMMG? You don't have any other filters or VCAs, both of which are covered + LPG with the QMMG. If you're certain, perhaps replace it with the Make Noise Optomix (2 LPGs in 8hp) and perhaps an Intellijel Corgasmatron, which is a dual multimode filter with crossfading. It also makes a heck of a dual sine oscillator...
As for z8000. Swap it for a Rene. Totally amazing at controlled chaos. plus it has built in quantization in case you still want that.
Swap the E350 for a CycleboxII. Way more depth, always new and interesting timbres come out of that thing. Plus there are wavetables for when you may still want that sound.
If you've not been paying attention to the euro market, have you seen the Make Noise DPO yet? You may want to check that out! Trust.
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:40 am Post subject: Re: Rethinking my entire workflow. |
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| Waz wrote: |
2nd - e350. It's nice for drones, but slamming hot signals into the CV inputs makes it go out of tune.
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This has been discussed pretty extensively in other threads. The E350 does not respond well to full-swing CV signals. It isn't designed to receive really hot CVs, as you have discovered. Rather than ditching it, try using attenuators. You might find a lot of things in it that you really like.
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Any suggestions? I have debated selling the whole thing and getting the creature/ gator or DUSG combo. I would keep a small DIY case for myself.
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If you 're really unhappy with your Euro setup, I'd say throw the Flight Of Harmony stuff in your DIY case and ditch the rest. Get the Serge and don't look back. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| exper wrote: | Are you sure about the QMMG? You don't have any other filters or VCAs, both of which are covered + LPG with the QMMG. If you're certain, perhaps replace it with the Make Noise Optomix (2 LPGs in 8hp) and perhaps an Intellijel Corgasmatron, which is a dual multimode filter with crossfading. It also makes a heck of a dual sine oscillator...
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I'm pretty sure about the QMMG. I simply don't need 4 separate filters. If I were to stay in the euro game outside of f(h) and 4ms kits, I'd probably get a Wiard borg. I LOVE WIARD!!!! |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| Could I get a 2 panel Serge for what I have now? (minus the f(h) and 4ms stuff? |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Rethinking my entire workflow. |
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| Waz wrote: | The most important to me;
- A signal out module that has a fucking stereo headphone out and also separate LR outs. I need headphone monitoring!!!! |
That sounds exactly like the Pittsburgh Outs. I love it. Well, as much as you can love a module whose main job is to stay out of the way and help shove sound in your ear bones. |
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You might like the Z8000 more if you had that µAtt a lot closer to it.
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| Waz wrote: | | Could I get a 2 panel Serge for what I have now? (minus the f(h) and 4ms stuff? |
By "2 panel" I assume you mean 2 M- Modules, not 2 shop panels, right? No, you'd be more than halfway there (depending on what you manage to sell the Euro stuff for). The M-Modules show up in the BST fairly often, so you could save a lot by buying them through there. You'd have to be patient, though. If you possibly can, try a Serge out before you buy it. The mindset and way you patch it is totally different. Some people love, some hate it. |
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| monstrinho wrote: | | Waz wrote: | | Could I get a 2 panel Serge for what I have now? (minus the f(h) and 4ms stuff? |
By "2 panel" I assume you mean 2 M- Modules, not 2 shop panels, right? No, you'd be more than halfway there (depending on what you manage to sell the Euro stuff for). The M-Modules show up in the BST fairly often, so you could save a lot by buying them through there. You'd have to be patient, though. If you possibly can, try a Serge out before you buy it. The mindset and way you patch it is totally different. Some people love, some hate it. |
I've tried a Serge and Buchla on many occasions. The Serge has always stuck out for me. I love bananas and the workflow. It is obtainable, but it seems overpriced. I like Serge's designs, but not so much Rex's. The Seq A seems like a good panel tho, and it has a lot of Rex's designs in it.
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yes... I mean 2 m-odules. |
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| Waz wrote: | | monstrinho wrote: | | Waz wrote: | | Could I get a 2 panel Serge for what I have now? (minus the f(h) and 4ms stuff? |
By "2 panel" I assume you mean 2 M- Modules, not 2 shop panels, right? No, you'd be more than halfway there (depending on what you manage to sell the Euro stuff for). The M-Modules show up in the BST fairly often, so you could save a lot by buying them through there. You'd have to be patient, though. If you possibly can, try a Serge out before you buy it. The mindset and way you patch it is totally different. Some people love, some hate it. |
I've tried a Serge and Buchla on many occasions. The Serge has always stuck out for me. I love bananas and the workflow. It is obtainable, but it seems overpriced. I like Serge's designs, but not so much Rex's. The Seq A seems like a good panel tho, and it has a lot of Rex's designs in it. |
Since you already do DIY, why not build a couple of CGS Serge panels? A Lot cheaper if you are willing to invest the time putting it all together. BTW, "Rex's designs" are Serge's designs, but that's another thread entirely. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:20 am Post subject: |
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Just in case you hadn't seen this, the CGS Serge stuff is here:
http://www.elby-designs.com/contents/en-us/d6.html
It would be a pretty big task, but if you're up to it, you'd have a REALLY nice little system... |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:30 am Post subject: |
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I'm all about DIY. I have done a couple CGS Serge DIY's. However, my workflow change is going to be a non-DIY decision.
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DIY is a hobby for me. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:50 am Post subject: Re: Rethinking my entire workflow. |
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| Waz wrote: | | ... 4th - a156. I thought I'd really need a quantizer, but maybe not... |
Don't think of the A-156 as just a quantizer - it has other possibilities such as S&H, new pitch trigger gen etc - check this post out that I wrote a while back http://synovatron.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/my-favourite-synth-module-doe pfer-156.html
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| Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:22 am Post subject: |
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If you want glitchy chaos, start patching the E350 back into itself. Maybe build or buy an expander, though I find much more interesting glitchy textures with interpolation on. It's worth noting that hot signals in the morph inputs will change the tuning. Personally, I love this. If you don't, use attenuators.
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