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LIOZPRAV · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:08 am Post subject: best VCF, LFO, EG combo?

hey yall..
so i decided to build my first euro (i have another handmade modular synth), and i'm amazed by the amount of great and different modules i've come across in the euro world...
my question is, if you had to choose one VCF, one LFO, and one EG, which one would it be and why?? (consider HP, quality, and versatibility)

thanks wigglers! hyper

exper · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:19 am Post subject: Re: best VCF, LFO, EG combo?

Hainbach · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:31 am Post subject:

Hi and welcome!

I am not sure about "best", but a DMF-2 or a Korgasmatron plus Maths will take you far. Double Andore is also great for its unusual envelope shapes and very good sounding VCAs. If you are HP aware, then its a great module.

Depends on what kind of sound you are searching for. An Optomix for example can replace a filter for many duties if you dig the LPG sounds.

Anyway, have fun!

John Noble · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:44 am Post subject:

Maths and a lowpass gate!

LIOZPRAV · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 11:47 am Post subject:

thanks exper and hainbach...
i'm looking for good quality and some extra features.. as i said i have a modular synth that uses bananas..
i ordered the makenoise format jumbler so it can interact with the euro modules im planing to get..
so if it's for instance an LFO, i would like it to have more things that the dual LFO i already got... i don't know tap tempo or freaky things haha!!
btw i have a lot of HP at this point.. i only "have" 4 euro modules (they're on their way, somewhere in some post office ¬¬)

atari5200 · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject:

PEG is pretty awesome since it can loop, so it can act as an EG and/or a LFO. It can be clocked or respond to tap tempo as well (as can Maths, but you'll have a much easier time finding a PEG!).

As for a filter, the Toppo Multifilter is pretty sweet as well, I was a little underwhelmed at first but once I really dug into it I used it quite a bit

Alwaysnew · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:40 pm Post subject:

Maths an Korgasmatron! Hands down. PEG is great too. LFO I would say uLFO. thumbs up

bj_gzp · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:44 pm Post subject:

Tap Tempo + LFO= SSL Modulation Orgy LFO SlayerBadger!

It has wave shaping and full CV control on everything. But at the price of using up 16HP.

Cheers,
BJ

monstrinho · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 1:57 pm Post subject:

There are so many options available now, that I think this question is almost impossible to answer. If you narrow it down by specifying where your musical interests lie, then it's much easier to give relevant feedback. Some people love the Metasonix modules, for example. I've owned a TS-21, and it had almost nothing to do with the kind of music I'm interested in making, If you're after those kinds of sounds, then a whole rack of yellow is what you want. If you state a little more clearly where you want to go musically, I think the answers you get will be a lot more useful to you...

bouzoukijoe1 · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:43 pm Post subject:

here are some criteria that might help in decision making. not all of them will apply and some will even contradict each other, but maybe you can single out the ones that are the most important to your music and downgrade the ones that are not as important.

VCF
- self-resonant
- multimode
- overdrive capable
- dual signal path; serial vs parallel
- imprecision (as a feature)
- LPG capable
- VCA capable

LFO
- VCO capable
- EG capable
- dual osc
- sync-in precision
- special waveforms
- waveform symmetry/distort
- full range from one knob (low freq to audio rate; no switch)
- variable scale/duration switch; low vs. high

EG
- LFO capable
- traditional ADSR (feature)
- self-cycling
- EOR, EOD outs
- comparator
- variable duration modes; short, medium, long
- negative or bipolar mode
- dual EG: SUM, OR
- ping/clock sync with multiplier/divider

any other criteria?

or, you can also maybe categorize along stylistic use:

VCF
- west coast vs east coast
- precision filter vs noise/distortion filter
- dedicated filter duty vs. multi-function

LFO
- multifunction LFO-VCO
- dual vs. single
- complex EG/LFO

EG
- complex EG/LFO
- AD vs. ADSR
- dual vs. single

for me, Maths is not really an option since it's not even available (might come out in a month though - who knows?). but I personally love the Borg2 for it's variable mode, affordability, sound, and control. for EG I am not that particular - I love my PEG that can double as an LFO, but I have to say I really like the control of a traditional ADSR that you do not have to ping (I'm very particular about the release). for LFOs, I will have to +1 the SSL Modulation Orgy because of its features - tempo control, clock out, sync in, multiplier, variable waveforms, symmetry/distort. it's a really nice module. even if I'm not crazy about the faceplate, I really LOVE it and use it in every patch.

LIOZPRAV · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:04 pm Post subject:

thanks man! caught you inspired! haha
i'll have to print this hihi

Orbless · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:12 pm Post subject:

VCF:
- Intellijel Corgasmatron
- Toppobrillo Multimode Filter

LFO:
- Synth Tech E355 Dual Morphing LFO
- SSL Modulation Orgy
- Intellijel Dr. Octature
- Livewire Vulcan

EG:
- 4MS PEG
- Malekko Wiard Envelator (x2)

Also:
- Makenoise Wogglebug is a great CV source
- Elby Ian Fritz Chaotica as well

bouzoukijoe1 · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject:

I feel the pain of decision making and we all go through it. sometimes you just need to look at all the factors in front of you and start familiarizing yourself with all the possibilities. it's very hard to choose especially if you haven't tried all those features yet. in fact, I learn something new nearly every time I patch. the best thing about modular though, is that there is no such thing as a wrong decision. remember, no matter what modules you decide to get, there will always be a plus side to it. that's the beauty of the craziness of eurorack.

bj_gzp · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:23 pm Post subject:

shaft9000 · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:32 pm Post subject:

it's totally subjective depending on the character you want

but if you insist on 'an answer', however pointless: get some cwejman and you're sorted.

shaft9000 · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:38 pm Post subject:

qu.one · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 3:52 pm Post subject:

Yeah - Cwejman MMF-1, DLFO and ADSR-VC2 is screaming goo yo

bouzoukijoe1 · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject:

haima · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject:

stellvia · Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2012 7:15 pm Post subject:

SynthTech E355 Dual Morphing LFO definitely goes beyond the normal grounds of LFO's with it crazy waveshapes and morphing ability, and has VCO capability as well.