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PLL Arabesque Patch
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Author PLL Arabesque Patch
dougcl
Hi folks, spent the evening playing with the PLL and reconstructed this which is the core of the Arabesque Patch.


Edit: Added link to vid.
ex_dead_teenager
damn, and me without a real slew limiter.

I'll have to try this anyway...
wetterberg
damn, and me without a quantizer very frustrating Oh well, guess I'll try this with the a-189-1 instead, hehe twisted

Thanks for going through the trouble of attempting to reconstruct this, man. Epic patch.
ex_dead_teenager
yes, huge thanks, this patch sold me on the PLL I can't tell you how often I've listened to your youtube of it, it's haunting.
richard
many thanks. this is crucial info!

actually can i ask how you made the image. occassionally I feel the need to thoroughly document a patch

R
dougcl
Hi Richard, I just used MS Paint on a screen shot from Rack Planner. The rack scale is set to 2.0.
Leisure Cove
I feel safe saying that everyone who has seen that video has wanted to recreate the patch and/or bought a PLL to do so.

Many thanks!! SlayerBadger!
a100user
Just patched that up.

Damn that clever. I'm starting to understand the PLL a bit more now.

Thanks
wetterberg
okay, question time:
why use a slew limiter? The lowpass out of the PLL is already "slewed", aka lowpassed, surely?
BananaPlug
Thanks for doing that. I'll give it a shot once I get tired of the rats nest I have in place at the moment. applause
dougcl
wetterberg wrote:
okay, question time:
why use a slew limiter? The lowpass out of the PLL is already "slewed", aka lowpassed, surely?


It allows you to control the PLL and external VCO separately. You should consider it optional though because I can see in the video my untouched A-170 in the second row on the far right. Dead Banana

Beyond this and not shown here though is the possibility of slewing the pitch input before it goes to the mixer using the bottom half of the A-170. This would make the sound go through the scale on the way to the desired note and then trill once it's there.
goiks
finally got around to patching this up, big thanks.
dude
just bought a pll!
dkcg
awesome. I bet you could even make the note jumping sync with a clock somewhat with a trigger into the quantizer. or a Maths instead of the slew. Damn....why do I need to go out for dinner instead of trying this patch! Oh yeah...chicks. hmmm.....
dude
what are chicks again? all i see are math homework, anatomy homework and modulars.
Babaluma
yeah but the chicks can help you with your anatomy homework. hihi
blungo2
screaming goo yo screaming goo yo screaming goo yo

Just ordered a PLL so i can try this patch (and other stuff of course). w00t
Audio Resistance
I nominate Doug's Arabesque PLL patch as...... drumroll please

w00t "EURO PATCH of the YEAR" w00t
dougcl
Ha ha. Too bad it was an accident (hides)
blungo2
dougcl wrote:
Ha ha. Too bad it was an accident (hides)


I don't think that makes it any less brilliant though...
loudone
dougcl wrote:
Ha ha. Too bad it was an accident (hides)


That would be what the late great Bob Ross called a "Happy Accident".
It's peanut butter jelly time!
nanotone
dougcl wrote:
Hi folks, spent the evening playing with the PLL and reconstructed this which is the core of the Arabesque patch.

Thanks a lot for this inspiring patch thumbs up
dougcl
My pleasure.
the bad producer
Yes, amazing patch...

I'd missed this, and patched it up last night, though I don't yet have a 156...

I found the patch grew quickly to bind together half the modular, and really sounds great with VC Slew whilst toggling the switches on the 196... I can imagine working with this for some time over Christmas...

Thanks Doug...

Charlie
Kent
Well, the Vulcanization of rubber and Penicillin were both discovered by accident... just goes to show ya. Similar to when my wife found my P-spot...

goatse.cx
the bad producer
waah
dougcl
lol
wetterberg
I like where this thread is going. thumbs up












hihi
loudone
applause lol
too funny!
AntManBee
I've rather belatedly come across your Arabesque video and, like everyone else, think it's beautiful.

I'm probably being thick but it would be great if you could describe what other modules were used in the patch beyond those in the picture. Did you just use the A-147 through the A-156 for pitch CV and what did you use to modulate the A-147 speed? (You wrote on the video page that the A-147 was the clock and modulation source - what was it clocking?)

Thanks for any further information as I'd really like to understand what's going on in this patch.
Oldstench
Kent wrote:
Well, the Vulcanization of rubber and Penicillin were both discovered by accident... just goes to show ya. Similar to when my wife found my P-spot...

Dammit Kent.

Thanks for the patch notes Doug.
Kent
Fuuuuuuck... the world's most famous A-196 is back! SlayerBadger!

Ah, the sweet memories of yesteryear. May your pleasantries long linger in our nostrils.
mamonu
i find it funny that this thread got resurrected the day i posted my A156 and A170 to some co-wigglers... d'oh!
thank god i have other means of slew and quantizing,
otherwise i would cry myself to sleep.
dougcl
AntManBee wrote:
I'm probably being thick but it would be great if you could describe what other modules were used in the patch beyond those in the picture. Did you just use the A-147 through the A-156 for pitch CV and what did you use to modulate the A-147 speed? (You wrote on the video page that the A-147 was the clock and modulation source - what was it clocking?)


The A-147 was clocking the A-160. The outputs of the A-160 are going to an A-138 and creating pitches. The rate of the A-147 was controlled by one of the LFO's in the A-143-3.

I am looking at the video trying to retrace this.

Almost all of my euro patches featured the A-160/1, A-152 and mixers as a sequencer. I didn't ever get a proper sequencer until going to the 250e, which fortunately is not really a proper sequencer either smile

The main reason I recreated the core patch and posted here was to answer these questions, because I knew I would forget. Really, the core is in the first post of this thread, and it's most of it. The weird Jimi Hendrix thing is the PLL. The PLL is the best module in euro, IMO.
Tim Stinchcombe
Kent wrote:
Fuuuuuuck... the world's most famous A-196 is back! SlayerBadger!

Ah, the sweet memories of yesteryear. May your pleasantries long linger in our nostrils.
So now there is a whole new generation of Wigglers wondering what the fuck this thread is on about, and since there doesn't seem to be a link to the original video in any of the above [Edit: missed the embedded link in the first post - duh!], I'll put you out of your misery- here it is, enjoy:



Tim
matttech
ahhh... the a152

no matter how many times i re-read the description of it, i have absolutely no idea what it does.

i'm not even sure how you create pitches with an a160 and an a138. are you clocking the a160 at audio frequency? even then, when you put the outputs into a mixer, surely that just gives you a load of sub octaves?


excellent patch though....am definitely gonna have to look at getting a PLL. damn....like i need more stuff to buy!
polyroy
Maybe he meant the A161 outputs into the A138, to make a rudimentary sequencer. I used to do that loads, real fun once you start fucking with resets and have some switching modules handy to change sequences. A196 is really cool as well, I got some amazing sounds out of mine from just tweaking away at random. Once you check the manual and things become abit more clear it's easier to dial certain things in, but it really feels like it's got a mind of it's own.
matttech
polyroy wrote:
Maybe he meant the A161 outputs into the A138, to make a rudimentary sequencer. I used to do that loads, real fun once you start fucking with resets and have some switching modules handy to change sequences. A196 is really cool as well, I got some amazing sounds out of mine from just tweaking away at random. Once you check the manual and things become abit more clear it's easier to dial certain things in, but it really feels like it's got a mind of it's own.


ah...that's what i was wondering - do you mean just sending the different step outputs into a mixer, to create a rhythmic gate "bus"

i got an "or combiner" to do that with
MrTea
Essentially yes, though the or combiner works slightly differently to a mixer in this respect. The pots on the mixer allow you to pitch the gates coming in, creating a basic sequencer, where as the or combiner simply combines the gates using OR logic.
mig27
Wow - just stumbled upon this.
Doug's Arabesque video was one of the things that got me into euro.
Actually this has been my go-to link for showing friends why modulars rule.

Sooo looking forward to giving this a whirl later tonight!
timoka
i resurrect this thread from the dead...it deserves it!
today i tried the wonderful pll arabesque patch from dougcl. it is such a miraculous patch, the slightest knob movement makes a big difference.
here is my take on it, not even close to the arabesque patch:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/uzala/dual-pll[/s]

now i should try and understand what the hell is actually going on in the A-196!

Guinness ftw!
nbirnel
I had been contemplating selling my A-196 (one of the first modules I purchased) - I haven't been using it much, and the case has only 14 HP left open.

Then I saw this thread and patched it up. The PLL stays!
frozenkore
timoka, thanks for resurrecting this! The arabesque patch is also one of the biggest influences for me. Great job your rendition. I like the low end accompaniment. Guess it's time to dust off the ol' A-196!
timoka
thanks brian,

the pll video was my first deliberate experience with modular music, i was hooked on ever since, so it might be the reason i got into this black hole eventually.
tapemyeyes
Great take of a great revelation! Only recently i've stumbled upon this recording and been reading
and here I go, this is my first post in this forum and i can already feel the suction force pulling me in help

where grass is green
and girls are pretty

Guinness ftw!

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