Muff's Modules & More

solitud

When I've got evolved in modulars one year ago most of the fun was digging through modules and laying out sketches of the modular of my dreams.
The internet modularplanner was a big help and I was fiddling around with it a lot. Having fun with it I recognized that it lacks some features I really would have to see.
- A function to search for modules by type
- A system, where I could manage my modular sketches on other computers (at work)
- better readable Typo for my aging eyes
- a more community based kind of platform with a feedback channel to rate modules
- a more robust drag'n'drop interface (module collision detection, no modules hiding each other)
- no flash implementation, I am a mobile guy, you know iPads and stuff wink

Long story short: I wrote up some ideas and developed a web tool which meets more my needs and would like to present it to the community in a healthy beta state.
I would be very happy if some fellow wigglers would give it a test shot and give me some feedback about improvements or features.

Biggest problem: lack of content. To counter this I've implemented a form where everyone can submit new modules. They appear instantly on the site.
Would be a blast if actually someone would use this smile

Thanks, Knut

tl,dr;

http://www.modulargrid.net

John Noble · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:38 pm Post subject:

Looking at it now!

exper · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:46 pm Post subject:

Beautiful design! If you can get some more modules in there, it'll be great!

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:54 pm Post subject:

intellijel · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject:

This is great! Very fast too

I like that users can upload the details. Would be great if manufacturers could get special accounts to edit any posts made for their product lines.

I would also love if you could add the ability to make virtual patch wires.

sixtyten · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:10 pm Post subject:

Very nice duder! It's all contemporary and stuff and things.

bouzoukijoe1 · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:

wow

elektrokick · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject:

Very, very nice! Submitted 2 modules already, doing more tomorrow applause

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:14 pm Post subject:

algorhythm · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:20 pm Post subject:

Bookmarked! Wow! This is great. thumbs up

elektrokick · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:22 pm Post subject:

One thing though: there should be an option the enter the module prices in both euros and usd, to avoid confusion thumbs up

haima · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:25 pm Post subject:

WOW. this is really awesome. great job!

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:26 pm Post subject:

bouzoukijoe1 · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:29 pm Post subject:

I love the YouTube auto search. woah

haima · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:33 pm Post subject:

some more ideas:

- should have +ve and -ve current fields.

EDIT, never mind - I realised you can select multiple module types...

*** should have "function generator" or "multi-function" as a module type - I didn't know where to put maths! ***

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:38 pm Post subject:

haima · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject:

also - i guess there's a slight issue as now there's two "maths" in the database...

maybe make it so you can't add a module that has the same name?

haima · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:44 pm Post subject:

also - maybe a field for "URL" that could link the manufacturer webpage?

sorry for all the feature requests - you've done an amazing job!

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:45 pm Post subject:

defenestration · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:48 pm Post subject:

could there possibly be private modules? I certainly would like to make entries for many of my DIY modules to make rack planning easier but there is no reason to have those modules be publicly accessible and cluttering up the public database

AND THANK YOU!! w00t

simfonik · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:51 pm Post subject:

Very cool!

I added a module and some comments on initial observations.

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:52 pm Post subject:

simfonik · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:00 pm Post subject:

@ jnlkrt - can you submit a better cropped image of the DPO? Those white edges are going to drive me nuts. hihi

simfonik · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:04 pm Post subject:

More suggestions:

UTF-8 support
Currency option
Floats on depth field

defenestration · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:05 pm Post subject:

simfonik · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject:

I agree w/ defenstration. It doesn't make much sense to have public database entries of modules that aren't publicly available.

haima · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:11 pm Post subject:

Maybe change the module type "clock generator" to "clock related" or something...

the RCD isn't a clock generator strictly speaking....

intellijel · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:17 pm Post subject:

You should add a paypal donation button to help support the project!

haima · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:19 pm Post subject:

jnlkrt · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject:

jnlkrt · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:16 pm Post subject:

bug report: replaced fotos show up in module view, but in the planner the first upload is still used..

smile

elektrokick · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:23 pm Post subject:

Some of the missing manufacturers:

- David Jones (or is it Jones Video?)
- Synthetic Sound Labs
- Trogotronic
- XAOC Devices

bodo · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:33 pm Post subject:

damn, looks really great and dangerous!

synthcube · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:36 pm Post subject:

This is awesome
Doesn't it seem that this functionality could be married with the rack planner content that's been in the works for a couple years, to avoid duplication of module submission? Seems like all those modules, in all the formats, built out with this web functionality, would be awesome. How do you get all these guys with parts of the solution together on the phone or in person to sort it out? You've got this one, rickyho, Doug, the rack planner guys, etc.

jnlkrt · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:45 pm Post subject:

Expert Sleepers is missing as well..

Maybe it would be a good idea to make all fields mandatory when adding a module.. maybe kick all modules with missing field out so they are re-entered?

daverj · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:09 pm Post subject:

madcap · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:25 pm Post subject:

Right now, each time I select a module it takes me back to the rack iew. It'd be nice to be able to select several modules at once. I own several intellijel modules, but have o filter for each module.

I really dig it sir!!! Very ool!

n0rd · Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:49 pm Post subject:

negativspace · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:25 am Post subject:

I think a section for 'Commercial DIY' is a good idea. Something like the ResEQ will have sold, after I ship the next batch, about 180 units. That's well more than many production modules, and I think it should be in the planner because it's obviously in a lot of synths.

I'm happy to upload the Clarke69 panels I have photos of as well as photos of my own publicly-run panels.

I don't think you need a section for individuals' one-off DIY modules, although an ability for users to keep custom module lists that are not made public might be cool.

kimu · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:32 am Post subject:

great job! well done!

why don't you link to the eurorackdb to get infos and pics?

http://eurorackdb.com/node/h_module_list

solitud · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:33 am Post subject:

Thank you all for the many comments! It´s quite overwhelming and I didn´t expect it. Instead of replying to every single post I will make a list of all feature requests and bugs, prioritise them and deploy the urgent ones this weekend. I am really excited about the positive feedback, thanks again, Knut

kimu · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:34 am Post subject:

magisterludi · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:42 am Post subject:

Mefistophelees · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:54 am Post subject:

Excellent, Thanks!

SYN7HOR · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:15 am Post subject:

Wow, really good! I can almost build my whole system already! Very fast and user-friendly too.

Great work.

Hainbach · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:10 am Post subject:

I love it! So smooth and clean.

Protofrangiste · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:37 am Post subject:

Great work Knut! applause

Thank you for that!
It grows quickly!

udbhav · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:46 am Post subject:

Very very nice, bootstrap FTW!

lessavyfav · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:02 am Post subject:

I am wondering how to deal with the wrong pictures being posted? Is it possible to add a "send message to module poster" or "report module in accuracy" type function? The a-190-1 midi to cv /clock module has what appears to be a photocopy of a Pittsburgh delay or something as the art.

lessavyfav · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:06 am Post subject:

Polivoks filter as well. The Harvestman one. :-)

solitud · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:22 am Post subject:

Jaspo · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:39 am Post subject:

Excellent work!

I would scrub all characters under ascii 48 (including space) in the database search index and the search field.

A152 = A 152 = A-152

solitud · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:41 am Post subject:

First update

Content
- Added requested Vendors and assigned unknown/other modules:
Expert Sleepers
Dave Jones Design
XAOC Devices
Trogotronic
Synthetic Sound Labs
DinSync
CGS
Greg Surges
J3RK
L-1
AMSynths

Wording:
- relabeld the fields in the uploadform: Depth in mm, Price in €. There will be a solution for USD and inches soon.

Bug Fixes
- UTF8 Support, display all the μ, ß, ä, etc.
- reuploaded images show up in the planner now

New features
- Adopt a Module. There are some modules from an automatic import, like the zillion Doepfers. Because they where not submitted by an user they belong to no one. Now Its possible to adopt these Modules, update their stats and images.
- embedded a Flattr donation badge. If someone likes to support the project with money it´s now possible. Although I prefer support in kind of an active community.
- fixed several Bugs, probably introduced some new ...

Otium · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:55 am Post subject:

Wow! Really great job. I hate flash! I'd say, you just ran in open doors and corrected everything that sucked on modularplanner.co.uk (although they also did a good job).

Just added some modules.

I recognized, that in Chrome on a Mac, I can put my modules some TE over the right border of my 84 TE Rack. I think, it still has 84 TE, but the Rack Picture seems to be too small.

How about the possibility of setting racks to private?

radiokoala · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:18 pm Post subject:

Mefistophelees · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:20 pm Post subject:

BUG - solved!

I was getting weird alignment issues with some modules.

I had zoomed in and out and it looks like it had screwed up the mage scaling.

Reloading in a new tab appears to have fixed it.

elektrokick · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:23 pm Post subject:

Edit: Splendid applause

Otium · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject:

steffensen · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:31 pm Post subject:

Just added a bunch of modules. Good planner all in all!

Im also curious about adding personal/official DIY modules.. i dont mind if they are open for the public, but as some are clones im not sure if its always a good idea?

jnlkrt · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:34 pm Post subject:

i like how the community/interactive aspects get everyone on board and helping! smile

btw: please add a category "CV interface" for the Expert Sleepers stuff. thanks!

elektrokick · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:35 pm Post subject:

Another category suggestion: Expander

jnlkrt · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:42 pm Post subject:

seank · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:43 pm Post subject:

this is so awesome! thank you.

pipwilliams · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:52 pm Post subject:

Awesome!!

jnlkrt · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:57 pm Post subject:

bug report: re-editing a module will delete all attributes/categories..

category requests: LPG, Pitch Shifter

thanks again for the great idea and work!

solitud · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:07 pm Post subject:

GodMadeUsFonky · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:08 pm Post subject:

I like it.

Another missing manufacturer is: Abstract Data

solitud · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:11 pm Post subject:

GodMadeUsFonky · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:13 pm Post subject:

Oh, and 'Snazzy FX'

seank · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:21 pm Post subject:

i'm uploading modules like a motherfucker. this is how it should have been all along.

elektrokick · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:27 pm Post subject:

I want to suggest that people use the same nick in the grid as here. That way it will be easier contacting the module uploader regarding possible errors in the information fields (or with the pic) thumbs up

dougcl · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:32 pm Post subject:

n0rd · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:35 pm Post subject:

daverj · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:45 pm Post subject:

I've been thinking the same thing as Doug as I read through this thread. There are now several rack planners and several databases of modules.

It would be ideal if there was one central database of modules, of all formats, with large enough pictures to be used by any planner, and all the needed fields of data that any planner might want. If a planner wanted a local database they could import from the central one on a regular basis. Or simply import and query on demand via something like XML.

The planners then would be front ends for the database, with the particular features that planner designer wanted. But we wouldn't end up with multiple databases with possibly different or incorrect data in them. One planner might only support one format, while another might support multiple formats. That would be up to the designer of that front end. But the database could support all formats, even obsolete ones.

Or if there's no way to get all the database designers to work together, at least import/export could be used to reduce duplication of effort.

dougcl · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:21 pm Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject:

I am all in when it´s about APIs and REST. But I think xml in a zip shell is a thing of the past. I am happy to provide an API where other people can query the modulargrid database and get a JSON object (or not so preferable XML) for their projects. Especially I am very aware that the content is uploaded by the community and belongs to the community.

A centralized database would be nice and ideal but hard to realize. Who wants to decide who can edit, upload content and who not. Who wants to review the changes. What kind of technology will be used? Hottest web tech today is old nuts tomorrow.
I think, what people like on the modulargrid is the instant and light approach:
module is missing, I add it, its there.
Not easy to achieve with a centralized system ...

dougcl · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject:

elektrokick · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:29 pm Post subject:

I have to say that I've had no problems with adding modules to the library using eurorackdb.com (or the manufacturers webpage) as a reference. I find the open nature of it very enjoyable tbh. If a new module is not there yet you can add it right away instead of waiting for someone else to do it.

As long as people are willing to do it, and make sure that they enter the correct information about the module they're submitting (and don't spam the library with several submissions of the same module ofc), I think the system will be clean and effective.

John Noble · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:30 pm Post subject:

I'll keep running the database as long as it doesn't cost more than than a couple of Doepfer modules/year (which is about what it costs now) and there are enough users to justify it. Needs vary, and I don't see much equivalency between my site and the others--we serve different purposes in different ways.

A few general observations:

1) Compiling accurate data and maintaining its integrity is hard.

2) Interchange transports don't matter, within reason.

3) This stuff costs money to run, and all the developers have different thresholds of pain, different goals, and different priorities when it comes to spending their money.

4) Time is money, see (3) above.

I'm working with the gentleman behind http://eurorackplanner.com to supply his users with data from my site, which I hope will simplify life for him and everyone who uses his site. I'm also a RackPlanner user and will continue to make RP module files available. I'll do the same for RichyHo's planner if the program needs a different data format from RP (that seems to be in question atm).

If any of the above didn't make sense, blame the NyQuil hangover. zombie

dougcl · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:29 pm Post subject:

jnlkrt · Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:45 pm Post subject:

i love to finally be able to be as OCD about a rack plan as i really am.

http://www.modulargrid.net/modules/view/340

lol.. eek!

thebrotherspus · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:58 am Post subject:

Any way to make rows wider than 168hp?
My case has 169hp rails.

n0rd · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:13 am Post subject:

Suggestion: Change 'on hover' description to module specs and not module description for modules in the rack.

steffensen · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:19 am Post subject:

nothing.

reppiks · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:04 am Post subject:

Wow, this is fast and slick!

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I can't seem to rearrange any modules in my rack unless there's a big enough gap to move them into...??

solitud · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:12 am Post subject:

jnlkrt · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:12 am Post subject:

elektrokick · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:19 am Post subject:

I can move my far right modules a bit outside the case in my browser (Safari). Don't know if that's a bug or not but it makes rearranging a full rack a little easier.

Edit: Pic

stromcat · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 7:36 am Post subject:

This is great. Like that I can view other people's systems too!

The only major issue as far as I'm concerned is the same thing mentioned above - I need to be able to rearrange a full rack, which isn't possible at the moment. Alls I would want is the option to temporarily move modules outside the case just to make space to work. Can this be done?

solitud · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:15 am Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 8:17 am Post subject:

New Update:

Module Browser
Vendor is now an oldschool dropdown (with some JS magic involved).
Wigglers can now instantly see which vendor is available.

Module View
The Manufacturer Name in the Module Detail View is now linked back to the Module Browser.
Click on this Link shows all Manufacturer related Modules.

Racks
Racks max width is increased to 172 HP

XML Export
In the Module Detailview is now a link to export Module Data in "Muffwiggler XML Format" (is this the official name of the specification?)
http://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54811

Although the format differs a little from the scheme:
Prices on modulargrid are currently in EUR only, so:
priceUSD -> priceEUR

Instead of embedding an Image I put a link to it, so:
moduleImageFilename -> moduleImageUrl

The current XML scheme supports only one kind of Voltage, some Euro modules accept 5V and 12V (?), so:
if module accepts 5V -> export 5V
if module accepts 12V -> export 12V
if module accepts 5V and 12V -> export 12V

@dougcl: Maybe you can extend the scheme with the fields priceEUR and moduleImageUrl?

MadGav · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:14 am Post subject:

Hi Knut,

Really like what I see! From my personnal perspective it would be really handy to see module power in the roll-over popup and/or be able to list modules in the rack with power. (One 650ms G6 here so barely enough power to go around wink

On the XML front, a (single) standard may outweigh the quality of the standard, and my worry with JSON is that it isn't at all friendly to non-web platforms whereas XML support is pretty ubiquitous?

Martin

flashheart · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:09 am Post subject:

Very slick site. One thing though, is it possible to edit module info, or at least flag errors? The Cyclebox is currently appearing in the Intellijel lookup.

exper · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:19 am Post subject:

GodMadeUsFonky · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:32 am Post subject:

the only real flaw is the flagging thing, because now there are modules wiith wrong names, info or without pictures.

a small streamlining thing would be having an autocomplete in the module name field

seank · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 10:49 am Post subject:

also, it would be awesome if i didn't have to login every time i use the site. or is that just me?

goiks · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:20 am Post subject:

nice work.

my case is 174 hp.

unless i'm missing it, the ability to zoom out would be helpful.

jnlkrt · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:56 am Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:06 pm Post subject:

It´s HTML5. In a modern browser like Chrome cmd + and cmd - should zoom in and out.

Rack Size: I have to limit the rack width at some point, else the database or you computer explodes.

What do you think is a realistic max width for the racks?

Error flagging will come, Module Popover Info will be enhanced.

For autologin I have to save your password in a cookie. Although its no online banking site I do not feel comfortable to do this. Modern browsers should at least remember the password ..

lloydcole · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:27 pm Post subject:

This is great.
I've added the modules that I have in my first rack which were missing from the database. At the same time selfish and (hopefully) helpful...
I'll email the manufacturers to get current draw and depth and edit ASAP.

dougcl · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 12:36 pm Post subject:

nomass · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject:

This is great! I've been playing with it and adding stuff all morning -- er, whoops it's afternoon now!

I've got a few questions/suggestions:

1. It would be nice to be able to see two or more racks on the same screen. This would make it easier to rearrange your system.

2. Euro is fine for the price, but it might be worth posting a best practice for computing the value of modules manufactured in the US where the euro value fluctuates against the dollar.

3. I'm not quite sure how to deal with prices for modules that are no longer manufactured. In these cases I left the field blank. Perhaps an in/out of print field would be nice.

4. This is a long shot, but what the hell. It would be cool to have frac or other formats represented. My system is almost exactly half frac. In fact, I don't think either my frac or euro modules alone make very complete or sensible systems.

In any case, thanks for making this thing.

tonnu · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:22 pm Post subject:

really fresh stuff!

haven't used it exhaustively but i'd recommend the following:

- different skins for the racks (i.e. monorocket!)
- as much as i like the thumbnail browsing of the modules with some things it could get too long (like for doepfer)--it'd be great if there's a choice for scaling down thumbnail or view a list instead of full thumbnails
- the scale of this is bigger than eurorack planner--for me it's OK but i'm having trouble imagining what will those with rows longer than, say, 104hp do? it will fill up their screen ...

John Noble · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject:

intellijel · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:31 pm Post subject:

It would definitely be nice to be able to put in the USD MSRP price.

The Euro prices for American manufacturers is often marked up quite a bit due to VAT and even after that it is not usually a direct match for the USD (via current exchange rate ) MSRP.

Maybe have two fields so that one is for Euro and one is for USD and we can fill in the appropriate one?

stromcat · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:32 pm Post subject:

dougcl · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:34 pm Post subject:

dougcl · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 2:37 pm Post subject:

Vcoadsr · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:14 pm Post subject:

Just noticed this thread, registered and got my modular plan going. Brilliant website.
So pleased it works on my iPad!

Nice work.

solitud · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:29 pm Post subject:

dougcl · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:32 pm Post subject:

John Noble · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:37 pm Post subject:

jnlkrt · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:31 pm Post subject:

dougcl · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:21 pm Post subject:

jnlkrt · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:12 pm Post subject:

RubberCityNoise · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:21 pm Post subject:

This planner is the best! Keep up the good work!

simfonik · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:24 pm Post subject:

Price would be a useful field if it was private and per user. That would allow someone to keep track of what they've spent or what they're planning to spend. It wouldn't require currency that way either.

jnlkrt · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:28 pm Post subject:

John Noble · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:58 pm Post subject:

reppiks · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:06 pm Post subject:

One small request: could the red delete icon be made to disappear when the mouse is not over the module? It currently stays on the last 'moused-over' module.

synthcube · Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 9:46 pm Post subject:

This whole thing begs for:
- consensus and collaboration
- a full cross-format, comman set of tools
- sincere discussion and documentation of master data issues (naming conventions, units of measure etc )against which everyone agrees to adopt
- a full consensus view of a formalized requirements definition
- identification of best practices from all of the existing solutions and agreement by those investing their time to contgribute to a greater good

elektrokick · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:36 am Post subject:

Can you please add Thonk to the manufacturer list, Solitud?

solitud · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 5:21 am Post subject:

Protofrangiste · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:38 am Post subject:

Please add hexinverter.net and Rare Waves to the manufacturer list.

solitud · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:41 am Post subject:

User101 · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:45 am Post subject:

Am I doing something wrong? When I try and rearrange modules they grey out in their new positions, and then when I come back to the page or reload they are all back in their original positions. I am using IE 9.0.10

Monobass · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 6:59 am Post subject:

This is cool... but I can't actually have a case of the correct size.

The max rows is 5 and the Max HP is 192.

My case is 6 rows of 128 HP... If I could do 3 rows of 256 that would suffice.

conscious · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 9:29 am Post subject:

Hello,

can you please integrate skins for the case, i would like something slicker than the wooden case.
Also make it possible to blend out the modules on the bottom, my PC isnt the fastest and the modules down below slow everything down.
Please upload a picture for the doepfer A-155 and A-154.

thnx

daverj · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:12 pm Post subject:

Many people use rack planners to plan future purchases, and in Euro systems the power requirements are just as important as the size requirements. Many modules use vastly different amounts of one power rail compared to another, and knowing that is important information about a module. Likewise some of the power supplies supply different amounts of plus or minus, so being able to add up the requirements shows if a certain set of modules can work with a given power supply.

For example, my O'Tool module uses 130ma of +12 but only 10ma of -12. If only the 130ma figure was stored in the info about the module, people would assume it required 130ma of -12 also, and would then assume that they could not use it in a system powered with a uZeus that was already reaching it's limits of -12v.

There are many other modules with vastly different requirements for +12 vs -12. And some modules that do require +5. Knowing that a module requires +5, and how much of it is required makes a difference when planning a system, and the power supplies or adapters needed for that system.

dougcl · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:28 pm Post subject:

stromcat · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject:

I keep thinking it would be nice to be able to comment on peoples modular systems. I suppose one problem of that is comments being left and then the system being modified so you're commenting on different setups...

Another thing is that modules are listed multiple times on the right (for the same system) if they've been inserted into that modular multiple times.

muncky · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject:

nice facility - and love that it works on a phone... w00t

any chance you could add Frequency Central to the list? would like to up upload negativespace's groovy panel for the DIY that's a coming.

also just uploaded Clarke68's panel for the Thomas White Dual Resonant Low Pass Gate - if anyone else, like Clarke or Thomas White would rather own it, shout and I'll delete...!

jimmyambulance · Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:20 pm Post subject:

this is so awesome. thank you.

Otium · I am using IE 9.0.10

solitud · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:45 am Post subject:

User101 · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 4:04 am Post subject:

n0rd · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:01 am Post subject:

Just tried IE9 - does not work. Glitches up badly after trying to move modules around.

jnlkrt · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:32 am Post subject:

User101 · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 5:54 am Post subject:

Sorry I don't trust firefox - have had security issues in the past when I used it and have never had a problem with an up-to-date version of IE. Not to mention other issues in the past with online shopping carts not being happy with browsers that aren't IE.

So, in short I am not changing my browser! Not a problem though, will wait and see if this (really quite good looking planner) gets an update that means it starts working with IE - (or more likely Microsoft fixes whatever they broke)

jnlkrt · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:04 am Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:15 am Post subject:

New Update

Added USD Prices
Display of prices can be switched in the menubar.
The upload form is extended with a new field price USD.
If no USD price is available, modulargrid will approx. calc the value.
And the other way around.

-12 V Support
On people request module current can be entered as +12, -12 and 5V

Delete Button
The delete button in the rack view now vanishes, when the mouse leaves the rack.

Racks size
Extended to 6 rows

Long Description
Added a field for long descriptions. The text entered here will show up in the module detail view.

linked function tags
Now you can click on the tags in the searchresults. This triggers a new search after module function.

I hope I don't have broken anything, things get complicated fast!

reppiks · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:29 am Post subject:

great work! amazing how you are responding so promptly to all the feedback here thumbs up

Monobass · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:37 am Post subject:

reppiks · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 7:45 am Post subject:

Re: prices...
It appears that USD prices that have been entered are being treated as if in Euros, and thus the USD recalculation bloats the prices...

jnlkrt · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 8:08 am Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:32 am Post subject:

rattkane · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 9:56 am Post subject:

I just took Modular Grid for a spin and am lovin' it!

The first thing I did was make my current system. Up to this point I had been so good about not totaling the amount of money I've spent - AND damn!

However the price total is a great feature to have. Nice work!

elektrokick · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:07 am Post subject:

Hopefully usd/euro prices will be corrected soon by the module-"godfathers" thumbs up

User101 · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 10:57 am Post subject:

chinard · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 11:07 am Post subject:

Look nice, only thing i would add would be 'frequency shifter' as a category.

sixtyten · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:07 pm Post subject:

One area I think could be improved is the method of selecting modules. The 'lazy loading' of images is nice as well as the enhanced form fields but I think a text based manufacturer/module list would provide a better user experience.

Regardless of image or text based lists, currently you are forced to change search parameters to often or show a huge list.

You could build a grid with blocks for each manufacturer and blocks for each module. Clicking the manufacturer blocks would toggle the visibility of their respective modules.

You could have master controls to show all/none for the manufacturer blocks to give the user the option of reducing from an all inclusive list or starting from 'scratch.' You could do this for all of the module attributes. I'm just thinking of a visual filter.

You could even keep the form fields but maybe use this JS plugin that allows really useful, user-friendly ways to do things like multiple selects and option groups.

Chosen

jnlkrt · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:15 pm Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:56 pm Post subject:

nono.dracula · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:52 pm Post subject:

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet.

BUT

I'd really love the option to be able to make
your personal rack "PRIVATE" if you wanted.

Is this something that may be available?

steffensen · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:10 pm Post subject:

iamgoldman · Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 6:42 pm Post subject:

now i have something to do with my free time.

i will leave no detail behind

solitud · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:56 am Post subject:

Small Update

Module Search slightly improved
"-" and space characters don't matter for the search result. Searching for "a-108" is the same like searching for "a 108". Searching for "a108" is still something different, arghh. Working on this...

Stats on the Homepage
A counter for modules and racks

Parsing URLs in Long Description
You can enter URLs in the Long Description field of the module. It will be automatically linked. No HTML required, so just enter "www.doepfer.com" to link to that.

Module Delete Button in the Rack view is back
The Delete button on the last hovered modules stays until you press popover off. I had to change behaviour because iPad UI was broken.

hanerlend · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:48 am Post subject:

pdon't know if this has been mentioned alleeady, but support for the erthenvar lunchbox 1u tiles would be nice. smile

edit: the planner is lovely, btw. smile

really liking the fact you went with html5 on it.

skecr8r · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 7:49 am Post subject:

This is totally excellent - just wanted to give two thumbs up we're not worthy

Jaspo · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:06 am Post subject:

A couple nit pick things. I didn't read through the posts to see if these were already posted.

1. When I grab a module, it would be great if it didn't snap to the center of the module, but to the offset of where I grabbed it.

2. When I drag a module on top of a larger, equal width module or an area with enough room to the left or right that module should replace the one currently there. If the replaced module is equal, less or enough room to the left or right, they would swap. Otherwise, it would go to the next available largest space, or to the off screen place holder. This would allow for faster construction. Right now it is like one of those sliding puzzles smile

BTW, I am really enjoying your planner. Excellent work!

jnlkrt · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 9:24 am Post subject:

i wanted to send you a little money to support this, and signed up with flattr.. when trying to send money, besides the minimum of 15€ you gotta pay to them two things happened that made me hold back:

1. when using paypal, for the amount of 15.00€ it shows a small print with an actual amount of 22.50€ in the last step.

2. when using any other payment method, it`s carried out over moneybookers, a highly dubious payment service that mainly serves gambling sites as a processor.

i have my concerns with this service! isn`t there anything fair and transparent for a cause like this?

swordsect · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:08 am Post subject:

jnlkrt · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:32 pm Post subject:

hey, another feature request: it would be cool to filter for exact module width, not only a limited number of max widths. thumbs up

steffensen · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 1:31 pm Post subject:

iL · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:26 pm Post subject:

getting better and better.

maybe suggestions:

function would be good when i submit a module and have not all
infos i can set it that others can edit also the information.

that could speed up maybe gathering all infos, loke a wiki.

maybe it also starts edit wars if peolple fight if something is a function generator or a cv modulation.

angry

like math seems to be the everything maschine (missing moonrocket) - like if math is a oscillator then any sequencer is a oscilator too. wonder why wooglebug is not a oscilator too also.

solitud · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:40 pm Post subject:

Update

Search Module field has now a fuzzy logic
Find the A-107, regardless if you search for A107, A 107, a-107.

Private Modules (semi kind of)
In the module edit and add form you can now check a module as a private one.
This means it will not be listed in the module browser of other people and people can not search for it.
It will be listed in YOUR module browser and marked with a private tag.
When people view your profile or your rack than they are still be able to see it.
People can advance from your profile page to the detail page of the module and from there are able to add the private module to their own racks.

The reason for this: people can add their DIY modules without cluttering the database. They can still show the module to other people and those can play with the module in their own racks.

I also will use this mechanism to blend out duplicates from the database.

Try it and tell me what you think.

solitud · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject:

sixtyten · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject:

defenestration · Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:55 pm Post subject:

just absolutely love it, many excellent features, does everything I want it to do and then some, very user focused implementation

and thanks for so many new features!

thumbs up

sausmatoe · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:22 am Post subject:

This thing is awesome! nice one Guinness ftw!

MacroDX · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:48 am Post subject:

Very nice work, signed up right away applause

One feature suggest though (Dunno if it already came up, didn´t read through the entire thread): Adding pictures by URL.
E.g. Doepfer has pics of all their modules on their site...

steffensen · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:19 am Post subject:

Otium · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:57 am Post subject:

radiokoala · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:25 am Post subject:

ollepetersson · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:53 am Post subject:

My rack is 208hp wide and maximum is 192hp sad banana

Would it be hard to fix?
/Olle

zombieFredrik · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:03 am Post subject:

Haven't read all requests but most useful for me would be: Ability to move modules between racks. Since I'm always reordering my modules ... searching for the perfect setup (and making room for more)

Petur · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:12 am Post subject:

Maybe this is a bit picky. But i kinda would like a rack layout without the wooden spacers between the rows. Mainly because that's the way my racks look =)

What about having a couple of different rack themes to select from maybe?

BTW, i really appreciate all the excellent work being put into this!

jnlkrt · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:44 am Post subject:

djthopa · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:58 am Post subject:

Are Erthenvar modules listed?

Thanks!

solitud · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:10 am Post subject:

nomass · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:35 am Post subject:

If someone else has uploaded a module but omitted some info, is it possible for someone else to add it?

jnlkrt · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:35 am Post subject:

nomass · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:38 am Post subject:

Oops, I should have mentioned this in my last post.

When I view this on my iPad, the popovers for the modules on the far left appear off the side of the screen and are therefore illegible.

Any fix for that?

solitud · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:57 pm Post subject:

Update
Filter for exact module width or max module width
In the module browsers search form are now two radio buttons to toggle between exact HP or max HP search

steffensen · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:46 pm Post subject:

Great!

jnlkrt · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:49 pm Post subject:

m-m · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:28 pm Post subject:

This is great, thanks for doing this solitud!

I really liked modularplanner but you really noticed when it stopped getting updated. So now I'm moving my daydreaming and delusions of grandeur to your site w00t

nono.dracula · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:31 pm Post subject:

I to am loving ModularGrid, thanks so much for the work!

Also just wanted to vote again for an option that would allow you
to make your modular "private"!

thanks thanks applause

solitud · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject:

nono.dracula · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:16 pm Post subject:

reppiks · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:27 pm Post subject:

elektrokick · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:29 pm Post subject:

I also think that's a great idea, a "Public View Mode" ON/OFF option for your racks (not unlike the new private mode for modules).

One of the reasons why I like this idea is that it could open up for another feature I think a lot of people would enjoy: the possibility to leave comments on racks with public view mode enabled (i.e a comment field accessible by clicking on a tab above the rack). If you don't want other people to see and comment on a rack of yours you could simply just turn off public view mode for that rack.

I'm just throwing this idea out there, though I understand it might not be possible considering the amount of unpaid work it would require on your end. You have already done a tremendous job with this website and I'm really enjoying it as it is!

thebrotherspus · Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:42 pm Post subject:

Yep. Excellent site.
I'm amazed at how quickly it's all coming together.
So useful!! applause

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 4:49 am Post subject:

O.k. I have put the private rack feature request on the list. I understand it, but I am not fully convinced. We are not talking private photos here, everyone has a collection of favorite modules in their racks, thats all. I am not sure if this is a property you have to protect.
But if wigglers demand for it I will consider.

In the meantime, miniupdate:
Link to module detail view from modules in rack view
It was not possible to link to the module detail view from the modules in your rack.
Nobody requested this, but I think it makes sense. So there is an info button above the delete button which fullfills exactly the purpose of linking to the detail view.

Manufacturers in the search result are clickable
Click on a manufacturer to start a new search for all modules from this manufacturer.

elektrokick · Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 5:31 am Post subject:

The link to detail view is neat thumbs up

swordsect · Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 9:01 am Post subject:

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:17 am Post subject:

You guys are killing me. Ladies and Gentlemen, update:
Private Racks
On the edit and add Rack forms now is a checkbox "is private". Click on this box to protect your rack from prying eyes. Only you in logged in state can access the rack.

Popover State preserved
Its getting a bit noisy in the rack view. The Button "Popover off" hides the information bubbles which appear on hover.
The status of this button (on/off) is now preserved on any rack views, even after logout.

Rack navigation in Rack view
Prev and Next buttons in the rack view allow for quicker browsing through the racks of others. Use this for inspiration (and yes of course, your top secret racks will never appear wink

)

swordsect · Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:22 am Post subject:

Thanks!!! you are doing great work!!! SlayerBadger!

solitud · Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject:

update
step2 improvement of the drag and drop engine
Drop smaller modules on bigger modules
You can drop smaller modules to bigger ones. The modules will be swapped. If no sufficient space is available, the modulargrid engine will try to find an empty slot. The behaviour is sometimes a little unpredictable, but I think an improvement to the former static behaviour.