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COTK C969

Post by island » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:50 pm

Easel + 416 Meta Expander & Snoopy a big show

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Post by Christopher Winkels » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:38 pm

I've often craved some Bi-clock. :hail:

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Christopher Winkels wrote:I've often craved some Bi-clock. :hail:
I've heard that about you . . .and I've been meaning to call! :hihi:

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Post by ericD13 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:15 pm

What's the price ?
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Post by island » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:40 pm

345€ :tu:
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Post by AnalogBastard » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:54 pm

About $455 US with free shipping if ordered by Jan 15th .. Looks awesome :tu:

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Post by Xero » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:29 pm

that looks pretty awesome

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Post by JohnLRice » Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:48 pm

I like this 'scheme' picture of it:

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Post by bwhittington » Sat Dec 22, 2012 11:19 pm

I like this one a lot. It seems like cv control over the fill value would have been an incredible feature, though. I assume the external gates step through the pattern on each channel?

January is shaping up to be a painfully tempting month for module shopping!

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Post by VinceL » Sun Dec 23, 2012 12:55 am

From the limited information, it appears that the spacing of fills for a given number of fills in a given number of steps is pre-programmed in the module.

For example, with 16 steps, how could you specify for 1 channel you want 8 fills on steps 2,4,6,8,10,12,14 & 16 and on another channel with 16 steps you want 8 fills on steps 2,3,4,5,10,11,12 & 13?

Maybe I'm missing something here? :despair:
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Post by bwhittington » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:25 am

VinceL wrote:From the limited information, it appears that the spacing of fills for a given number of fills in a given number of steps is pre-programmed in the module.
Yes, I suppose you could say that, but one could also say that a pulse divider only contains preprogrammed relationships. Whether or not what it seems useful is a matter of taste, but it seems that this could perform basic divisions (16:8 basically being /2 if I am understanding it correctly, 16:4 being /4, etc) as well as some unusual patterns that while preprogrammed are based on fun math relationships (I guess) instead of being programmed in the Casiotone sense. It seems like the applications of this range from fairly standard rhythmic pulses to weird clock fun.

That is *if* I am understanding it correctly, of course. :lol:

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Post by ericD13 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 3:29 am

If I understand it could be a competitor of the moon 568.

Much cheaper but also less complete : you can only choose the length of the sequence and the ratio of gates played (fills), not the positions they are played.
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Post by Minimoog56 » Sun Dec 23, 2012 7:31 am

COTK is on a roll. Would be great if K could get the communications and shipping together for improved reliable service. Might actually see a few of these in the field. I am still awaiting an invoice for an arpegiator and response back on the status of the polyklavier.
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Post by VinceL » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:49 am

bwhittington wrote:
VinceL wrote:From the limited information, it appears that the spacing of fills for a given number of fills in a given number of steps is pre-programmed in the module.
Yes, I suppose you could say that, but one could also say that a pulse divider only contains preprogrammed relationships. Whether or not what it seems useful is a matter of taste, but it seems that this could perform basic divisions (16:8 basically being /2 if I am understanding it correctly, 16:4 being /4, etc) as well as some unusual patterns that while preprogrammed are based on fun math relationships (I guess) instead of being programmed in the Casiotone sense. It seems like the applications of this range from fairly standard rhythmic pulses to weird clock fun.

That is *if* I am understanding it correctly, of course. :lol:

Cheers,
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I guess I'm comparing it to the Moon 568. It's got 4 channels of 32 steps. And, you've the ability to individually address all 128 steps. Of course, the 568 costs 3 times as much as the COTK969. :doh:

So, in true modular fashion......everyone should have both modules. :banana:
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Post by VinceL » Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:51 am

Oops...double post.
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Post by bwhittington » Sun Dec 23, 2012 11:06 am

VinceL wrote:I guess I'm comparing it to the Moon 568. It's got 4 channels of 32 steps. And, you've the ability to individually address all 128 steps. Of course, the 568 costs 3 times as much as the COTK969. :doh:
Good point that you could patch up these exact patterns and a million more on a 4x32 trigger sequencer. Perhaps one advantage of this module, besides it being a shame to allocate a 568 like that regularly, would be if you could give those fill pots a twist to create, well, "fills" on the fly. That was what I had in mind when I mentioned it being a crying shame that parameter wasn't under voltage control.

The module comparison that pops in mind to me is this being a more flexible rhythm concept than something like the preprogrammed COTK 1650.
VinceL wrote:So, in true modular fashion......everyone should have both modules. :banana:
That certainly seems to have been your strategy thus far! :mrgreen: :tu:

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Post by phaedra » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:16 am

Here is a link where you can try out some of the possibilities, which are offered with the C 969: http://www.hisschemoller.com/2011/euclidean-rhythms/
It will give you some impressions by building interesting rhythms.
Don't only reduce it for percussion patterns, think also in shifting single tracks of a sequencer for example.

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Post by JohnLRice » Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:48 am

phaedra wrote:Here is a link where you can try out some of the possibilities, which are offered with the C 969: http://www.hisschemoller.com/2011/euclidean-rhythms/
It will give you some impressions by building interesting rhythms.
Don't only reduce it for percussion patterns, think also in shifting single tracks of a sequencer for example.
Damn you, Phaedra! :youkids: I had pretty much convinced myself to ignore this module but this flash demo has got me all fired up again! :deadbanana: :hyper: :party:

Something this simple was fun:

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Post by odecahedron » Mon Dec 24, 2012 1:46 am

holy goddamn mother of all fuckery - that looks sooo sexual.

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Post by Thaknar » Wed Jan 02, 2013 3:17 pm

so who ordered one? I'm still tempted to buy one but cant really decide what to do :/

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Post by fyvewytches » Fri Jan 04, 2013 6:01 am

I'm very tempted, but waiting for some info.

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Post by lucid » Sun Jan 27, 2013 3:34 pm

Is it only me who pull the trigger here? Now in waiting phase.
Really nobody who can share some more info or experience?

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Post by odecahedron » Sun Jan 27, 2013 8:27 pm

fyvewytches wrote:I'm very tempted, but waiting for some info.
COTK, a video please - for the love of gawd!

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