Muff's Modules & More

bubblesound · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:26 pm Post subject: GROUP BUY - Pots

Hi guys - it's getting close to ordering time for me and following the lead of Flight of Harmony I thought I'd open it up to you guys, if anyone is interested.

I'll be ordering PCB mounted 16MM Alpha clones. Right now I'm just planning on 10K, 50K and 100K linear, but I'd be happy to get other values as long as we got close to the minimum, which is 1000 pieces.

right now the price is $.16/each + shipping which should bring it to $.25-.35/each+ getting them to you. I'd imagine that would work out to about $.35-.40/each in the end. I'll be working on the shipping with the vendor and try to get that as low as I can, it may mean it'll take a little longer getting here but we can cross that bridge when we come to it.

there is a 30 lead time to produce the pots once they have been paid for and i'm looking to place this order in about 1 month. i've attached a datasheet for the pots.

goiks · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:41 pm Post subject:

yes please. 100 each of 50K and 100K. 50 10K. and a couple of uLFOs. hyper

i'd be up for 100 25k as well.

Veqtor · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 1:47 pm Post subject:

What shaft type will they be?

bubblesound · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 2:44 pm Post subject:

Malekko · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject:

Please tell me you're not sourcing knock offs for your production modules.
cheap pots=bad

for example, a pedal buddy of mine got several thousand pots for a "good deal" they were shit....now they have a ton of warrantee work to do due to them failing. This may seem like a good plan but my guess is it isnt.
you can get actual alpha for .40 in quantity all day long (if you try...probably less)
Noble pots in quantity are them same, but even better quality.
my .02

Waz · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 4:49 pm Post subject:

Malekko · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 5:02 pm Post subject:

bubblesound · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:02 pm Post subject:

these are not cheap, crappy pots. several other synth companies are using them. i've got samples coming and i'll be testing them against what i've been using and alphas. i've been through this process before, i went through 4 or 5 companies before i found the company that's been supplying my pots up till now.

i know the difference between good parts and bad. i'm not going to but a bunch of garbage and then dump it on you guys nor am i getting cheap and cutting corners to the ultimate detriment of my company. we've seen plenty of that happening lately.

i appreciate your advice and i couldn't agree more about the duty to produce as good of a product as we can. it's just that sometimes price and quality are not directly proportionate. the jacks i'm using are 1/5 the price of the switchcrafts i started using but are much studier and i have had none of the new jacks fail while the switchcrafts failed 5-10% of the time.

Cat-A-Tonic · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:16 pm Post subject:

I'm up for getting a bunch of pots if you cross your heart that they are quality.

Do you have any recommendations of approximate ratios of pot value usage?
At a glance it seems that 50k are used the most, with 100k not far behind, and 10k in the minority.
This assumption is probably skewed by my familiarity with Blacet.

bubblesound · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:26 pm Post subject:

scozbor · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:53 pm Post subject:

i'm keen. would also get some 25ks.

50 x 50k
50 x 100k
30 x 25k

*edit - actually i don't know if this will be enough. will have to think about it.

i dont mind what type of shaft too much. i kinda like being at the mercy of knobs sad banana

suitandtieguy · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 1:28 am Post subject:

i have bought 24mm pots made by this company, from a random online distributor on a whim. i thought they were good pots and i felt totally comfortable shipping the modules i used them on. this was a couple of years ago, and i haven't seen the modules since so i'm assuming they worked just fine.

however, i didn't use them again because the shaft was too long and i like my knobs to low-ride like they had the Virgin Mary painted on the hood. it's a bit unfortunate though as i liked their heavier feel ... the rotational torque was very strong and lent itself to careful adjustments.

those were the 24mm pots though ... i haven't seen their 16mm pots.

robotfunk · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 3:31 am Post subject:

I'd be up for

50x 50K
50x 100K

Veqtor · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 4:51 am Post subject:

Okay, I'm up for:
100 x 50K
100 x 100K

jenamu6 · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 5:32 am Post subject:

Is there a minimum or could I go for 20 each?

bubblesound · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:25 pm Post subject:

authorless · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:59 pm Post subject:

if i can get some money together i will get some. but i also need your LFO and another case... sigh! you all are going to make me put my electronics degree to use with your sweet group buys aren't you?

flight · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 11:32 pm Post subject:

Just stepping in to support this - these are the same brand of pots that I use. I think they are phenomenal quality for carbon pots, and Song Huei is an excellent company to work with (unless you are in Germany apparently, then you have to go through a dealer because of some contract).

They aren't really Alpha "clones" though. I have not been able to find out who first came up with these pot designs, but Alpha is the brand most are familiar with that also makes these styles. I have found more than 50 other companies that make them, so who knows? seriously, i just don't get it

Henfield · Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:08 pm Post subject:

bananeurysm · Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject:

I have a couple noob questions if someone doesn't mind giving me some advice. smile

Will Davies 1900h knobs fit these pots?

Also - I'm hoping to use these for some serge-alike CGS panels... it doesn't look like these pots have solder lugs- will wiring them be a pain? Would it be more worth it for me to buy more expensive pots with solder lugs on them?