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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:45 pm    Post subject: last few module, maybe utilities? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Last few for the first 6u case that is Flamey

what other utility modules do i need, what would you add to the last 20 hp

The plaugebearer is top of my list, but would something else be more useful, cv buffer, sample/hold noise modular....? hmmm.....
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Ring mod, cross fader, S&H, Comparator, slew
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

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Ring mod, cross fader, S&H, Comparator, slew


hmmm..... dougcl,
I must say i respect your advice very much on here.more so than lots of people on here.
you seem, at least from posts i have read, blunt, to the point, and sensible.
thumbs up
Now,how do i get that all into 20 hp, when only two more modules can be doepfer power based, the others have to be bi ole Asys.

Also, what does the comparator do, and how important is slew, and what exactly does it do?

Any idea on what modules combine some of these nifty functions i know little about? help
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

loudone wrote:
Now,how do i get that all into 20 hp, when only two more modules can be doepfer power based, the others have to be bi ole Asys.


Doepfer Dual S&H > 4HP
Doepfer Dual Ringmod > 4HP

Slew = portamento
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

gracias micro-fi

that leaves 12hp, perfect for 2 Asys or 1 Asys. Asys has a handy mod, the AS 380. it is 12 hp, has a vc-lfo, noise generator, vca, and sample and hold function.
what about attenuation, crossfader, and slew?

Asys has a 6hp slew limiter, and a 6 hp ring mod, with multiples on it as well.

it seems like i need five functions but can only fit for no matter how i cut it.
very frustrating

i guess i can take the mult. out of the unit and have another 6hp. hmmm..... , let the mult hang out on the side?
seriously, i just don't get it
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

MicroFi wrote:
Slew = portamento


Slew= = waveshaper.

So it can be like a LP filter when it's short enough and is being fed an audio signal. Or it can turn pulses and gates into ramped waveshapes.

And it does portamento. thumbs up

It's a lot more useful that you think it's going to be. And the Doepfer one is good because it's small and does asymmetric shaping. Turns up in the majority of my patches, usually in quite unexpected places.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

cool thanks Umcorps.
Both the doepfer slew modules are 8hp, Asys one is actually smaller for once at 6hp!
But the doepfer is dual where as the asys is vc and a single slew. the other doepfer is a vc controlled one as well, single slew.

I think i am gonna have to buy another rack way sooner. Dead Banana
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

what´s about some LFOs?
MFB got some dual and small modules with sync feature
you can also go for the uLFO that is bigger but awesome
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

also, to add to the onslaught of pro-slew limiter propaganda, feed a slew limiter a gate signal and you have an ASR envelope. if you swapped the asys mult with the doepfer mult you could free 4HP (no need for a mult to be as big as the asys if it isn't buffered).

a comparator takes two signals and outputs a high signal if the first signal if a higher voltage than the low signal.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I came up with some ideas for the last 20hp

authorless, i already have everything in there on the first post on its way on some brown or white truck. It's peanut butter jelly time!

but yeah, slew seams big so I did find a Plan B model26 cv processor. it has three functions, slew, binary gate, boolean, and some other thing that i am unsure of. I know about the no plan b, But if i buy it from a store that has it in stock, isn't that supporting the retailer from losing money on stock sitting there? hmmm.....

Yes i would really love more lfo too! anselmi, the vulcan is a dual lfo i bealieve.

so here is one idea....
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

authorless wrote:
if you swapped the asys mult with the doepfer mult you could free 4HP (no need for a mult to be as big as the asys if it isn't buffered).


i can just take the ultiple out and have it there hanging on the side correct? huh?
it doesn't use any power.
that frees up 6hp( the Asys/doepfer swap would only save me 2 hp, though that would be valuable).
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

here is another idea... applause huh?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

this last one is pretty dope.

LFO? THe Envelope gens will oscillate too, which means including the Vulcan you're looking real good.

I would personally have gotten another "real" oscillator instead of the Asys VCA - including the QMMG you have 7 in that example. How about a second "normal" oscillator up in there?

How much of this have you bought already?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

a 4hp multiple like the doepfer would give you 4hp more space...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

astroschnautzer wrote:
a 4hp multiple like the doepfer would give you 4hp more space...
which was why I asked what was already bought smile Lets us critique this a bit better.
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you could have the mult outside of the case but just don't let it come into contact with the face plates of the modules in the case.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

the very first post in thread is what is coming on the 14th in an Asys 6u rack.
applause
It has 8 doepfer power supplies.So in the first set up i am using 6. The 160 and 161 run off one power supply. You guys probably know that though. thumbs up
If not there is the scoop. I do plan on growing soon enough, those 6u monorockets look pretty nice whistlin'

So, critique away my friends Rockin' Banana!

And about the multiple being outside, is it just the face plates that will cause trouble, or any metal woah
this shit i need to learns about..quckly d'oh!
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Okay better that I read the topic otherwise I will only give stupid answers smile

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

okay, in that case:

get the doepfer dual ring mod
get the doepfer dual s+h
get the MFB osc-02.

- on top of the original layout. You definitely don't need the a-147 when you have all that other stuff.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

wetterbug, i can only put two more doepfer power connecter style modules, my case only takes 8.
plus i am keeping my fingers crossed that the sem i ordered gets sent next month. So i do have lfo, 2osc, and such on that little gem thumbs up
Forgot to mention I had that coming. hihi
But the doepfer dual ring, and also the sample and hold are a great idea. As well i did check out the mfb offerings, i even thought about grabbing a kraftzwerg which has all kinds of goodies and saves rack space.

but that is out of budget at this point Dead Banana
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Here is another idea guys.



hmmm.....
what do you folks with experience think.
i know i end up with three sample and hold, but the rs 380 also has an lfo, vca, noise, s/h. the noise and lfo are nice and the xtra smaple and hold can be interesting. seriously, i just don't get it
i guess??
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

That makes 6 VCAs / Gates & two EGs - altho the LPGs will all respond OK to gate pulses from the 160/161 thats where Slew Gens. come in handy as really nice envelopes.

I can't see a S&H on the RS380 hmmm..... In that 6U I think there is alot of sound processing / interesting sound sources without the Dual Ring Mod.

Best bang for the space IMO would be the RS-40 - only downside is the Clock isn't VC but that saves your complex LFOs from being stuck doing Clock duties, also gives you a nice little performance interface with the manual S&H trigger, Noise level & Clock Freq. all next to each other.

Then the Doepfer Dual Slew in the last 8hp - that covers alot of bases for 6U & alongside the SEM makes a pretty good base from which to build.

With all this coming in big lumps watch out for modular induced cabin fever & don't forget to eat every once in awhile SlayerBadger! hihi
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Just out of curiosity, what case/rack are you putting these in? I'm trying to figure out which cases are available that will properly fit Asys modules along with the rest
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Thanks DGtom, i will go back to rackplanner, Oh darn hyper

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mateo, I am using an Asys rs15 i believe. It is the 6U version, from bigcity music.

Thanks again Josh! thumbs up
He was a big help in helping me get going. Put up with a few hours of me asking the same question ten ways upside down d'oh!
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Also DGTom, is the ext clock in on the rs 40 able to use a an audio source for time, like a click track or some other external audio input?
Or would that be the sample and hold function? I am still confused... ijust need to get in the machines and play abit and not worry about what "I need". I will buy more I am sure anyway soon enough!



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The RS-40 is pretty much like a standard "S&H" block you'd find on an old mono-synth or similar but its not normalled together - the lines on the panel between Noise Out -> Ext In & Clock Out -> Ext. CK In just imply those comman connections.

The Ext. CK In is the trigger for the S&H, it'll take the RS-40s clock, or any of the outs from the 160/161, an external click - say from a DAW or sampler will prob. work, I'd sample the RS-40s own clock & use that, I use my MPC for triggering / clocking modules - just sampled a modular clock into it.

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thumbs up I think you'll know within a week exactally where you find yourself saying 'dammit'

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Edit: That looks pretty tight nanners lots of juicy sounds in there for sure!! I would live with that for awhile before expanding anymore, theres loads you can do that probally isn't obvious at first, as is you've got a sequencer to build, up to four EGs, a buttload of modulation & (if 'musical' tuning isn't your thing) a crazy sick ass 3 Osc mono synth screaming goo yo Good call w/ the QMMG & ASys VCA as well, pretty much all the audio mixing you'll need all wrapped up nicely.
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loudone wrote:
mateo, I am using an Asys rs15 i believe. It is the 6U version, from bigcity music.

Thanks again Josh! thumbs up
He was a big help in helping me get going. Put up with a few hours of me asking the same question ten ways upside down d'oh!


Hmm, won't you have a problem mounting Asys modules next to the others due to the different positions of the screw holes? Might want to double check that, or you might find yourself with a couple of HP less than you thought!
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mateo
Well the borg filter has enlongated holes, and if i need too, i am pretty adapt with a file and can enlongate some holes myself on a modular or too if need be. I will see when i get most of the modules in and see what happens.
hmmm.....
i hope....
I can have one row all Asys, and the other all doepfer/other plus the multiple which i will not be all eek! about filling out holes or bringing it to my friend at the machine shop for a little trim or adjustment.
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If I understand correctly (I am new to this myself so don't take my word for it), you'll be able to do a Asys row with the borg filter fine, but your second row will have a gap at each end, totalling 1HP (and that's asuming you file holes into your asys multiple)
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loudone wrote:
mateo
Well the borg filter has enlongated holes, and if i need too, i am pretty adapt with a file and can enlongate some holes myself on a modular or too if need be. I will see when i get most of the modules in and see what happens.
hmmm.....
i hope....
I can have one row all Asys, and the other all doepfer/other plus the multiple which i will not be all eek! about filling out holes or bringing it to my friend at the machine shop for a little trim or adjustment.


I use the small round file from a set of Nicholson Miniature files. No. 12030
Works great for elongating round holes! I've had the set for years, and it works great as sharp as the day I bought them. The Analogue Systems faceplates are thicker than every other faceplace, I'll only file those if I have to.

I'd be careful about using anything from a machine shop since you'd have to take the faceplate off, or else risk damaging the module with a little slip. Small file takes a little longer than a drill or dremel, but it's rare I file more than a module or two at a time.

Hurrah for Cwejman, Malekko, Metasonix and any other makers who have elongated holes! applause thumbs up

Looks like if you put the borg and one more asys module together up there, you might only have to file one module. razz
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dkcg wrote:
loudone wrote:
mateo
Well the borg filter has enlongated holes, and if i need too, i am pretty adapt with a file and can enlongate some holes myself on a modular or too if need be. I will see when i get most of the modules in and see what happens.
hmmm.....
i hope....
I can have one row all Asys, and the other all doepfer/other plus the multiple which i will not be all eek! about filling out holes or bringing it to my friend at the machine shop for a little trim or adjustment.


I use the small round file from a set of Nicholson Miniature files. No. 12030
Works great for elongating round holes! I've had the set for years, and it works great as sharp as the day I bought them. The Analogue Systems faceplates are thicker than every other faceplace, I'll only file those if I have to.

I'd be careful about using anything from a machine shop since you'd have to take the faceplate off, or else risk damaging the module with a little slip. Small file takes a little longer than a drill or dremel, but it's rare I file more than a module or two at a time.

Hurrah for Cwejman, Malekko, Metasonix and any other makers who have elongated holes! applause thumbs up

Looks like if you put the borg and one more asys module together up there, you might only have to file one module. razz


Thats one big quote. meh

So yes, i will only have to adjust the multiple it looks like, and i can take the plate off that if need be for adjustments. And i already got me a bunch of nicholson files. thumbs up
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hehehehe....elongated holes.
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