Muff's Modules & More

flight · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:10 pm Post subject: V'Amp

Moving the discussion here. I'll give some details later - too damn busy!

wetterberg · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:18 pm Post subject:

I say hot DAMN!

DGTom · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:29 pm Post subject:

cchhhhiiiizzzzzz!!!

hyper

flight · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:42 pm Post subject:

Okiedokie, the carrot:

A morphing VCA. It morphs smoothly from AM>Ring Mod>Phase inversion.

The stick:
Voltage control only available for the AM. The morphing circuit is eluding all attempts at adding VC so far.

Mod1 controls the morphing - the balanced modulation.
Mod2 controls the VCA - the AM gain cell.

The jacks are wired as multiples, like on the Plague Bearer. The teeth show which ones are connected.

More details later, I gotta get back to work.

suboptimal · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:08 pm Post subject:

Flight, you're well on your way to having a complete synth on offer! Congrats on another awesome design.

parasitk · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:12 pm Post subject:

Very cool! thumbs up

DGTom · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:47 pm Post subject:

Synesthesia · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:02 am Post subject:

already added in the rackplanner twisted

attacksustain · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:10 pm Post subject:

Junk Rhythm · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:37 pm Post subject:

I'm diggin it.

Waz · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:58 pm Post subject:

I'd make those POT arrows little tiny bats or crosses, but that's just me.

I like this design tho. You definitely have my favourite designs by far. Make noise comes in second, but far behind yours. applause

Exuviae · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 5:42 pm Post subject:

Nice. Feature-packed and compact.

'Bout 8hp like the PB?

flight · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:49 pm Post subject:

Thanks everyone!

@ Exuviae: Yup, 8hp. Nice n' skinny.

aetherpulse · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:51 pm Post subject:

you're making it very hard to stick with just Serge! Maybe a Serge/FoH system?

Too bad you've given up on Frac, I have an empty one just waiting for FoH diseased goodness...

flight · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:09 pm Post subject:

johnnymad · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:57 pm Post subject:

Soy Sos · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:03 pm Post subject:

I don't understand why Frac users don't just buy the barebones kits. I can respect when Flight says the financial issues make it too difficult to support the format. Just about anyone should be able to put these kits together. I know the panel art is very cool though.

aetherpulse · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject:

DGTom · Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject:

barebones makes flight the Robin Hood of modular synthesis! wink

Kent · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:50 am Post subject:

And here I thought I was a freak with my Frac-format Mini-Disc player!

flight · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 2:26 am Post subject:

@ johnnymad: Oh, I still use them when I can, just not to the extent I did before. I lost the faceplate to the head unit in my truck, and they've all been discontinued. Minidiscs are harder (and more expensive) to come by as well these days. Also, the software for the minidisc bay on my 'puter is really out-of-date and buggy, and Sony-proprietary so I can't even erase and re-use any of the 400+ discs that I have.
angry

aetherpulse · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:40 am Post subject:

That sound's like a very good solution Flight.

Mood Organ · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject:

Soy Sos · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:06 pm Post subject:

Stickers, YES!!! I would proudly and with great joy put some lil FoH stickers with my 2 panel mounted PB's. Also the adhesive graphics sticker is a great idea for the DIY crew. I'm all about inexpensive solutions for this kind of thing.

@Mood Organ
The barebones are dead easy. If I can do it, I'm sure you can too. Aluminum is cheap and pretty easy to cut and drill. Plus it's a pretty good feeling that you at least part way made it yourself. Go for it.
thumbs up

Mood Organ · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:07 pm Post subject:

flight · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 4:09 pm Post subject:

Shawn is an incredibly great guy. He'll always talk to you if you have a proposal of some kind. He is quite a business man.

@ Mood Organ:
First, I just have to say that your hat is frikkin' awesome.
Barebones Packs (BP): They're almost completely assembled, all you need to do is knock some holes in a panel and connect the offboard components - pots, jacks, switches, etc. - which is why they are Barebones Packs, not kits. The BP come with enough panel components to have full functionality (no duplicates, like multiples, unless they are ordered extra), and the wire-to-PCB connectors for them - also the component-to-wire connectors if possible. The connectors are mostly IDT (Insulation Displacement Technology = no soldering), so you just need some wire & a smallish flat-blade screwdriver to push the wires in. The joystick connectors on the Choices require crimping because IDC are too fat to fit in that particular location on the PCB, and some components (like jacks) need the wires soldered on, but that's pretty much all aside from mounting everything to the panel.

Stickers: Hell yes, I'm gonna look into this when I have a chance. thumbs up

felix · Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 2:19 pm Post subject:

Exuviae · Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:31 pm Post subject:

Cybananna · Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject:

This sounds like another really cool module.

flight · Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject:

computer controlled · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 2:53 am Post subject:

How did i miss this thread?? I really am looking fwd to this module! Longer than most =oD Any guestimate on when it's completion will be?

I just got a nice new job applause

flight · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject:

computer controlled - There you are! I was wondering when you would pipe up. wink

computer controlled · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:33 pm Post subject:

I have, apparently, been under a rock

hmmm.....

transferpoint · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:17 am Post subject:

fucking dope!

shamann · Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:18 pm Post subject:

Bump!

When are you expecting this one to ship?

computer controlled · Posted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 6:30 pm Post subject:

Uh oh...

REwire · Posted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 3:37 pm Post subject:

I foolishly sold my Oakley RM then my ModDeMod in anticipation of this. Dead Banana

Any updates?

D

flight · Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject:

Ah shit.
Well, the V'Amp got sidelined during the Chaos of the SoS release. I'm freaking horrible at multitasking. I'll be back on this next week, but am not digging any more holes by announcing a release date.

@ REwire: That was foolish, but I started it so the blame's on me. May I send you a V'Amp prototype to play with in the interim?

stin-g · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject:

I'm hoping that REwire responded to you on that, because it's an incredibly rad thing to offer to do.

It's OK that you got busy with the SoS because it was totally worth it. It rules so superhard! I can feel my little earhairs dancing in anticipation of the V'amp (or is that quivering in fear?!?)!
thumbs up

computer controlled · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:49 pm Post subject:

I think about this little guy every day =o]

blungo2 · Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:54 pm Post subject:

i can't believe i ever assumed this would be a normal vca. d'oh!

looking forward to this one! all the foh stuff i have is completely amazing, but i need more...

flight · Posted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the support everyone!
I'm trying like hell to get back on track. This move (and everything else that happened concurrently) has thrown me off much more than I had hoped, but I'm working on it.

Lama · Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 7:41 am Post subject:

Analoguehaven list the Vámp as "coming soon". Any news on a release date, or are they just overly optimistic?

computer controlled · Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 3:11 pm Post subject:

flight · Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 5:00 pm Post subject:

VanEck · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 11:11 am Post subject:

Any updates on this guy?

I need some more VCA's, but am trying to hold out for this one maybe screaming goo yo

flight · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 3:24 pm Post subject:

In production right now.

megamouse · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:21 am Post subject:

lombrose · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:30 am Post subject:

computer controlled · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:42 am Post subject:

And it's loverly!

HeWhoWantsJeans · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:13 pm Post subject:

I keep hearing about how 'I need a VCA', and I'm eager to try out a V'AMP for that duty. SlayerBadger!

numan7 · Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject:

nrdvrgr · Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:17 pm Post subject:

Damn quiet about the V´amp here...?

I have been thinking about exchanging my Doepfer VCA for a V´amp.
How good is the V´amp as a "vanilla" VCA?

Exuviae · Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:14 pm Post subject:

nrdvrgr · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:05 am Post subject:

Bumping again. Noone here who owns one???

computer controlled · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:10 am Post subject:

The V'Amp works just fine as a normal VCA, because it IS a regular old VCA. It just has some neat tricks it can do. It only has 1 input though, so that might be a bit limiting to you.

nrdvrgr · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:14 am Post subject:

Thanks!

Scottzilla · Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:22 am Post subject:

Here's a Matrixsynth video of Computer Controlled playing with one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLNAa63r07s

CreepTheProphet · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:05 pm Post subject:

I've enjoyed playing with the V'Amp in conjunction with a couple of Plague Bearers and the Hertz Donut. Unfortunately I'm a total noob so I can't really say "go buy this."

The Ring Mod ability though is fun to tweak with though but it can take a little work to get it right.

flight · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:03 pm Post subject:

Oh yes, I forgot to mention:
It is possible to voltage-control the morphing (Mod1) function - to some degree, at least. With an audio signal into the first Mod1 input jack, apply a DC bias to the second Mod1 jack. You don't get the full range of morphing, but enough to do some neat tricks like bring it into ring mod, through into inversion, then back out again.

DGTom · Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject:

Would it be possible to have DC coupled I/O? or is that incompatible with the internal machinations of the V'Amp?

I'd love to be able to process CVs with this.

flight · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 5:40 pm Post subject:

space6oy · Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:37 pm Post subject:

does only the upper of the v'amp's audio in jacks work as an input for the VCA? seems like they both would, being a mult pair, but my lower in isn't letting anything through to the outs, just to the upper in. which does then send the signal to the outs if something's plugged into it as well...

space6oy · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:11 am Post subject:

eh?

flight · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:08 pm Post subject:

space6oy · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 5:50 pm Post subject:

ok cool, glad it's not something off about mine. thanks!

ben jah men · Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 9:21 pm Post subject:

I'm getting extra noise out of this guy.. is that normal?

basically I'm retarded and just now started using it as a vca (or using it.).

and I noticed immediately that when ONLY the output of V'amp is plugged into my Malekko output its got a strong BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ, it continues when plugging stuff in to the input as well..

none of my other modules do hmmm.....

flight · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 12:51 am Post subject:

ben jah men · Posted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:43 pm Post subject:

sorry... thats the name of the module itself... its basically just a 1/8 to 1/4 with attenuation..

so yeah, v'amp "output" to>malekko outputs "input"

flight · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 1:56 am Post subject:

Ah, gotcha. oops

I have never noticed this happening myself, nor has anyone else mentioned it to me yet. Does it do this when the output of the V'Amp is plugged into anything else, or just the Malekko Output?

joel1088 · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:30 pm Post subject: Tip Video

Just posted a video about how to get rid of bleed when using amplitude modulation on the V'Amp

HeWhoWantsJeans · Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:14 am Post subject: Re: Tip Video

computer controlled · Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 2:57 pm Post subject:

Just use Mod 1, this is your mod source input for AM/RM. That's what its for. Mod 2 is basically just an attenuated EG input.

box of monsters · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 7:27 am Post subject:

Hi, i'm thinking of picking up a FOH V'amp though i was wondering if anyone can tell me if the VCA side is of a logarithmic or linear response? (i'm assuming it's log).

Also, do one of the knobs work like the gain knob in Doepfer's A-130/A-131? As i often use it opened up for drones.

Thanks in advance.

computer controlled · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:27 pm Post subject:

To be honest, i'm not sure if its Lin or Expo. Let me find out.

And yes, you can open it up for drones.

box of monsters · Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject:

Good to know that it can be opened up, thanks! grin

mmm · Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:04 pm Post subject:

chvad · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 8:18 am Post subject:

Just wanted to chime in with some V'Amp love... picked it up a few weeks ago... didn't need another VCA.. I had 8 already but I have to say this has been my "go to" ever since. Not sure if it's the sound or the layout or what but when im patching that's the first vca i head to! awesome stuff!

computer controlled · Posted: Tue May 22, 2012 11:15 pm Post subject:

lilakmonoke · Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject:

being a devoted f(h) fan im thinking about getting one. just because i would have all the f(h) modules then ... main question is: what does it sound like? can somebody compare it to something? i know vcas are difficult to describe but when i use them they alle have a distinct sound.

mmm · Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 8:44 am Post subject:

Bakeneko · Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 10:47 am Post subject: V'Amp

I recently ordered a V'Amp, it landed this morning and I am very pleased with its functionality. My first piece of f(h) kit , it won't be my last. That is my evening sorted.

cheers