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Muff Wiggler
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hey the Schroff Europak chassis arrived today..... man this is one SERIOUS piece of over-engineered hardware. This thing belongs in a high-end medical facility or something.
I don't know how it compares to a standard eurorack frame - but I can tell you that I have NEVER seen a rack frame that was this heavily engineered. And it barely weighs anything either. serious stuff.
I'll find out tonight or over the weekend how well euro modules actually fit into it... will let you guys know
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:16 am Post subject: |
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Yes, received one here as well.
Same impression about the build quality.
It's very compact/lightweight and strong.
Thanks for the heads up MW. |
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Muff Wiggler
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hey what do you make of those rails inside the top and bottom that run through the depth of the chassis? I assume they are supports for some long PCB cards or something.... they may be a pain to remove, I'm waiting to see if they get in the way of the Euro modules.... i'd like them out of there but I don't really have any idea what they are for!
do you have a standard Doepfer frame? how does this beast compare?
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| Quote: | | hey the Schroff Europak chassis arrived today..... man this is one SERIOUS piece of over-engineered hardware. This thing belongs in a high-end medical facility or something. |
Well, eurorack IS a DIN industry standard for modular racking of electric equipment, including laboratory equipment... So you might be closer to the truth than you expected 
| Muff Wiggler wrote: | | hey what do you make of those rails inside the top and bottom that run through the depth of the chassis? I assume they are supports for some long PCB cards or something.... they may be a pain to remove, I'm waiting to see if they get in the way of the Euro modules.... i'd like them out of there but I don't really have any idea what they are for! |
I guess they're same kind of rails that I had in the old eurorack distribution amp that I modified to a modular synth frame. If so then yes, they were for supporting the PCBs of the modules that were fit into it. They weren't too hard to take off, even though I think I just ended breaking them up since I didn't have any use for them. Ones in my rack frame were plastic though, I'm not sure what material Schroff is using.
Oh yeah, and Eurorack modules should fit into those cases perfectly since it's a German industry standard after all... Even the '80s distro amp I used was a perfect fit for all the stuff I've bought so far. So if the modules don't fit perfectly, something is messed up. |
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, they look to be card supports.
Seems we really lucked out here. $35 for a fit and finish similar to the case of the mac pro. |
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Come to think of it, I wonder if the distro amp I got for free was something like a Schroff basic frame custom fit to a wooden box... It wasn't in a perfect shiny shape since it had been in use for around 15-20 years - but it was damn sturdy, light and looked like it had been an expensive job.
Can you guys post pics of the frame? |
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| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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Without camera right now - saving up for an infrared modded.
Yeah, looks like a hand-carved from solid hunk of aluminium jobby-save for the vast quantity of screws. Very bling.
Really thinking to buy several more. Wont be able to find real-estate at these prices again.
Now, onto power. Just received the latest digikey/mouser in the post yesterday. |
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Muff Wiggler
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quick update - i took some pics which i'll put up later so you guys can get a better look at this rack but......
1) the one euro module I have fits with military precision into this thing, they were obviously designed to go together
2) you have to get the strange inner rails (tons of them) out of the thing first, which is easier said than done
3) it's been said that if you flip the ears to the other side you can mount frac modules. i don't see how this is possible
4) getting the stuff out of the inside is HARD. I can't even get the rack ears off. all the bolts need a really strange driver that I don't have, some star thingy
5) my TipTop module looks super sweet sitting in here
6) i don't even have the right bolts to screw the module into the rack, frack screws won't work
7) eurorack is a strange world
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yep that's it - couldn't think of the name 'torx' when writing that post. i've been stuck needing a torx driver in the past as well, i should probably buy one
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| Quote: | | 2) you have to get the strange inner rails (tons of them) out of the thing first, which is easier said than done |
Are they plastic or metal? How are they attached? You might be able to just take a sturdy screwdriver and do like Luke - use the force 
| Quote: | | 3) it's been said that if you flip the ears to the other side you can mount frac modules. i don't see how this is possible |
I was wondering this too, I don't have a single frac module to try it out with so I couldn't figure out what they mean by "flipping ears to the other side"
| Quote: | | 4) getting the stuff out of the inside is HARD. I can't even get the rack ears off. all the bolts need a really strange driver that I don't have, some star thingy |
Luckily my box had a bog standard cross slotted screws.
At some point after I had to swap memory and HD in my old PowerBook, tighten the screws on my bicycle, open my mobile phone so my roomie could take a look at it, et cetera... I just gave up, went to ye olde tool shoppe and bought two or three sets of screwdriver tips for about every common screw out there. Standard, Philips/Frearson, hex (metric or imperial size), torx or whatever, I should be out of trouble as long as I actually have a large enough tip around... |
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lol. guinness.
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:03 am Post subject: |
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OK... Shit, that looks way more hi-tech than mine  Looks entirely different in construction but awesome. Time to get a PSU and the power distribution boards...
Oh, seems like you used the same method for inner rail removal than I did  |
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Muff Wiggler
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| flts wrote: | | Oh, seems like you used the same method for inner rail removal than I did |
were your hands all torn up and ground to shit like mine are?
oh those nice cheese-grater-alike panels on the top and bottom can do a job on you as well 
pretty damn happy for $35 though. I should have got 2 of them really....
i think i just tore up and threw away well over $35 of material from this thing to be left with a super-nice euro frame afterwards 8)
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| Muff Wiggler wrote: | | were your hands all torn up and ground to shit like mine are? |
Pretty much yeah even though mine didn't have the cheesegrater panels, just solid aluminium stuff... The best I managed to mess up was that I was trying to get something unattached with pliers (possibly one of the card holders), used about as much force as I could, and my hands slipped so the right hand hit the sharp corner of the damn rack. I still have a nice little mark in my right hand 
| Quote: | pretty damn happy for $35 though. I should have got 2 of them really....
i think i just tore up and threw away well over $35 of material from this thing to be left with a super-nice euro frame afterwards 8) |
Yeah, it was really a killer deal for all of you in Canada / USA... Lucky I still have 6U worth of frame to work on if I need another Euro box for myself. My friend already asked me to give it to him though, apparently he's got the modular lust again after filling up one or two racks of System 100 modular... |
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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Can't believe you tore out all of those guide rails.
Like to chew through mountains in your spare time?
Remind me never to fuck with you.
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Muff Wiggler
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| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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bare hands and all 
and i've got the missing skin to prove it 
| Quote: | | Like to chew through mountains in your spare time? |
actually.... kinda, yeah.
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