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Post by FatRocky » Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:51 am

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Post by FatRocky » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:24 pm

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Post by bkbirge » Fri Jan 20, 2012 12:34 am

My wallet hates you. How's this one track? Not that it matters since I'm sure I'll succumb to the call and buy it anyway.

Modular & Dork Rock:
https://bkbirge.bandcamp.com/
Racks:
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/88730
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/89177
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/379579


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Post by baker » Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:01 pm

Mr. Metasonix have you forsaken the ones like me that do not use modular gear this year? Are you guys done with doing standalone gear? So sad I was hoping for something new I just bought a Icunt, Assblaster and D-1000 this year and have been yearning to have a new tube destroyer this year. Please, please, please don't forget about the non modular users. :waah:

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Post by askthedust » Sun Jan 22, 2012 3:48 am

Or get a modular! You'll have even more fun with your D-1000.

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Post by weinglas » Sun Jan 22, 2012 4:37 am

baker wrote:....So sad I was hoping for something new I just bought a Icunt, Assblaster and D-1000 this year and have been yearning to have a new tube destroyer this year. Please, please, please don't forget about the non modular users. :waah:
This is simple: Get a wretch :twisted:
Album with Kozepz:"FRNDS"
"All Tubes"
"Game Over!"
mirarimusic wrote:... This fucking blows away Beyonces release today as well!!!!
dan_p wrote: I'll still be listening to this one in years to come. best thing I've heard for ages
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Post by MisterBrown » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:32 am

Will the current tiptop powered boards work with the R55?

This thing sounds so unique!!! Count me in!

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Post by bendedavis » Mon Jan 23, 2012 9:47 am

how much 12V does the R55 require? Can I use one of these regulators to provide the 5V needed from a Modular World 2A supply - http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/STM ... 5Mmg%3d%3d ?

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Post by Cat-A-Tonic » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:09 am

TM-3 is rated for 1A.
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Post by metasonix » Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:55 am

MisterBrown wrote:Will the current tiptop powered boards work with the R55?
no
Can I use one of these regulators to provide the 5V needed from a Modular World 2A supply
you must be joking.....if you want to melt the MW supply, go ahead.

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Post by FatRocky » Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:20 am

metasonix wrote:Does it suck power? You betcha, dooood. It sucks a LOT. Of power, and everything else.

Your Euro cabinet HAS to have a big +5v supply. I mean a LOT of +5.
Because it's running both tube heaters, and the 2D21 thyratron sucks
shit-tons of current at turn-on.

Directly from the press release:
WARNING: the R-55 draws a LOT of power from the +5v line when first powered up. Your cabinet MUST be able to produce 1.8 amps at +5v to warm up the tubes in the R-55. Doepfer and Kilpatrick +5v power adapters cannot supply this much current. Addition of a large +5v supply to your Euro cabinet may be required. Monorocket now offers a special cabinet with +5v power sufficient to run at least three R-55 modules, plus +-12v power sufficient for many other Metasonix R modules plus modules from other manufacturers.
No pussies allowed. :monkey:


Do you know the Analogue Systems RS-15 cabinet? it includes +5v but not sure how much. Maybe I can ask Bob Williams if it can handle one or two R55's or do you think there's no point in asking?

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Post by bendedavis » Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:05 am

FatRocky wrote:
metasonix wrote:Does it suck power? You betcha, dooood. It sucks a LOT. Of power, and everything else.

Your Euro cabinet HAS to have a big +5v supply. I mean a LOT of +5.
Because it's running both tube heaters, and the 2D21 thyratron sucks
shit-tons of current at turn-on.

Directly from the press release:
WARNING: the R-55 draws a LOT of power from the +5v line when first powered up. Your cabinet MUST be able to produce 1.8 amps at +5v to warm up the tubes in the R-55. Doepfer and Kilpatrick +5v power adapters cannot supply this much current. Addition of a large +5v supply to your Euro cabinet may be required. Monorocket now offers a special cabinet with +5v power sufficient to run at least three R-55 modules, plus +-12v power sufficient for many other Metasonix R modules plus modules from other manufacturers.
No pussies allowed. :monkey:


Do you know the Analogue Systems RS-15 cabinet? it includes +5v but not sure how much. Maybe I can ask Bob Williams if it can handle one or two R55's or do you think there's no point in asking?
I doubt the AS supplies are gonna provide that much 5V. I just rigged up an adapter to use a 5V wall wart supply with my tiptop passive board. It's supplying 4A. The supply was only $20 and was simple enough to rig up a board to adapt the DC jack to a 16pin connector.

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Post by zerosum » Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:31 am

The sound of dentage! :sb:

R55 droning while I twist the 3 knobs
R55 filtered through R54
R55 FM'd by R54
Massive Heavy
R60 R55
R60 to R55 to R54
R55 used as an oscillator and VCA by Modulating the R55 VCA CV input with a VCS

[video][/video]

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Post by metasonix » Mon Jan 30, 2012 2:53 am

Ah, is that what you were doing yesterday? (I was in a coma myself.....)

Very nice, thanks.

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Post by FatRocky » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:08 pm

apart from the span and offset external trimpots (which is great) , how different are these oscillators from the ones in the wretch?

no waveshape but overdrive level here , and vca cv in ...

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Post by FatRocky » Mon Jan 30, 2012 10:21 pm

bendedavis wrote:
FatRocky wrote:
metasonix wrote:Does it suck power? You betcha, dooood. It sucks a LOT. Of power, and everything else.

Your Euro cabinet HAS to have a big +5v supply. I mean a LOT of +5.
Because it's running both tube heaters, and the 2D21 thyratron sucks
shit-tons of current at turn-on.

Directly from the press release:
WARNING: the R-55 draws a LOT of power from the +5v line when first powered up. Your cabinet MUST be able to produce 1.8 amps at +5v to warm up the tubes in the R-55. Doepfer and Kilpatrick +5v power adapters cannot supply this much current. Addition of a large +5v supply to your Euro cabinet may be required. Monorocket now offers a special cabinet with +5v power sufficient to run at least three R-55 modules, plus +-12v power sufficient for many other Metasonix R modules plus modules from other manufacturers.
No pussies allowed. :monkey:


Do you know the Analogue Systems RS-15 cabinet? it includes +5v but not sure how much. Maybe I can ask Bob Williams if it can handle one or two R55's or do you think there's no point in asking?
I doubt the AS supplies are gonna provide that much 5V. I just rigged up an adapter to use a 5V wall wart supply with my tiptop passive board. It's supplying 4A. The supply was only $20 and was simple enough to rig up a board to adapt the DC jack to a 16pin connector.
The 5V wall wart supply sounds good to me I'll have to find out how to make that for two r55s

When are they going to be ready for pre order?

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Post by metasonix » Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:24 am

Probably not till April....sorry......

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Post by askek » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:39 am

hello this is my first post:)

here's a little something i did with the r55

https://soundcloud.com/aske-krammer/mofo-boobs-on-fire

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Post by M6live » Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:54 pm

Redacted.
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Post by malnatim » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:28 am

M6live's video above helped convince me to get an R-55. great sounding oscillator.
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Post by malnatim » Wed Dec 17, 2014 4:45 pm

tracks no probs

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Post by metasonix » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:43 am

malnatim wrote:tracks no probs
What did you control it with?

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Post by malnatim » Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:00 am

controlled by a dpo square being sequenced by metropolis / er-101.

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Post by metasonix » Thu Dec 18, 2014 6:44 pm

malnatim wrote:controlled by a dpo square being sequenced by metropolis / er-101.
So, you're feeding the CV input another VCO. That's the easy way to make an R55 "volts-per-octave", and that's what most people do with R55s and with Wretch Machines.

It's very simple and works very well, and yet a few people keep demanding that we make an accurate, reliable, perfectly-in-tune-always v/octave VCO. Not gonna happen.

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Post by QuantumMechanakillWave » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:13 am

:agree:

I have never touched the trimmers on my wretch.

Here is an easy trick to improve the tracking stability even further:

1. Mult the pitch cv that is being fed to the osc that you are using as your audiolation source.

2. Patch 1 point from the Mult into your audiolation source osc, and another into an attenuverter, and from the attenuverter into the pulsewidth input of your audiolation source osc.

3. Invert and attenuate the pitch cv so that it gently narrows the pulsewidth as you play higher notes, and increases pulsewidth as you play lower notes.

4. Patch the raw output into your metasonix osc. Tweak the attenuverter until you have found the most stability within the specific range that you wish to play.

This will work best if you do not have a filter or vca between the audiolation osc and tube osc. The response of these osc's are very state specific due to the nature of the tubes used. I think some of it has to do with the ionization time of the gases used in the particular Thyratron tube. Having the Thyratron constantly tracking a Frequency that is relatively close to the next frequency which it will be expected to follow will reduce the stabilization time for the new note. I think that keeping a narrower pulsewidth at the higher frequencies helps to stay away from the ionization rate limit by having the transients further apart?? Dunno. It is supposition, but it works. :hmm:
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