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since getting into modulars a few months ago, i've been trying to get my hands on a wiard filter boogie or borg 2, but they are hard to come by. i've decided to look into an alternative... i read the very informative frac filters thread, but i was hoping maybe someone can offer a bit more insight into these two specific blacet filters: FINAL FILTRE AND FILTHY FILTER. If you had to go with one, which do you pick? i'd prefer something more aggressive, more korg sounding, so maybe "filthy" is the way to go.... does anyone of sound samples or videos of either of these filters in action?


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The Final Filtre is my favorite VCF! However, I'm not very much into typical synth sounds such as modulated filters.
The Final Filtre is great to shape an almost perfect sound and it makes an outstanding sound source itself. Blacet never has disappointed me with any of his modules.
IIRC there are a couple of reviews online at Analogue Heaven.
The Final Filtre is great to shape an almost perfect sound and it makes an outstanding sound source itself. Blacet never has disappointed me with any of his modules.
IIRC there are a couple of reviews online at Analogue Heaven.
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i agree w/ you first thought... if you want something a little more agressive, the Filthy is the way to go. it's got some bite and character, but not so extreme that you couldn't use it as your only filter. would be a good complement to either of the wiard filters, if/when you can find one (they are so great, none of us that have 'em ever want to sell). another rare one to look out for is a mankato, but again good luck.
if you're willing to go DIY, there have been several runs of LPG printed circuit boards, and they are relatively easy builds. on the agressive side, the catgirl Synthacon (steiner inspired) is great, but a little more finicky to build.
agree w/ babaluma on the motm 1490 as a good plain vanilla filter (better than the final), but disagree abt the filthy. failing to find one fo the exotics, that pair (filthy/1490) give be a good complementary set.
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i agree w/ you first thought... if you want something a little more agressive, the Filthy is the way to go. it's got some bite and character, but not so extreme that you couldn't use it as your only filter. would be a good complement to either of the wiard filters, if/when you can find one (they are so great, none of us that have 'em ever want to sell). another rare one to look out for is a mankato, but again good luck.
if you're willing to go DIY, there have been several runs of LPG printed circuit boards, and they are relatively easy builds. on the agressive side, the catgirl Synthacon (steiner inspired) is great, but a little more finicky to build.
agree w/ babaluma on the motm 1490 as a good plain vanilla filter (better than the final), but disagree abt the filthy. failing to find one fo the exotics, that pair (filthy/1490) give be a good complementary set.
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another option to think about: i wonder if the malekko versions of the borg/boogie would work on 15v? if so, you could probably buy one new and repackage it behind an FPD frac panel, cheaper than you could pick up an original frac version on the used market.
and just to add: i think personal subjective taste is more of a factor in picking filters than any other module. you just have to trust your own ears
and just to add: i think personal subjective taste is more of a factor in picking filters than any other module. you just have to trust your own ears
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try and find an MOTM 1490 like babz said. the blacet filters do leave something to be desired IMO.
i suppose you could also look out for the minijack version of the Bugbrand SVF.
plus any of the STG filters.
frac is weird for filters. but theyre out there.
i suppose you could also look out for the minijack version of the Bugbrand SVF.
plus any of the STG filters.
frac is weird for filters. but theyre out there.
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Seth nemec (ban analogue) did a nice Analog Metropolis 4075 clone in Frac, I think both full and a 'light' version. We are also working on a line of clone filters in frac and frac banana formats starting with the Analog Metropolis 4023 , in hopes of expanding frac filter options.
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Cool! Be interesting to see what you come up with.synthcube wrote:Seth nemec (ban analogue) did a nice Analog Metropolis 4075 clone in Frac, I think both full and a 'light' version. We are also working on a line of clone filters in frac and frac banana formats starting with the Analog Metropolis 4023 , in hopes of expanding frac filter options.
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Depending on one's prelediction for DIY I doubt there's much available as a PCB/kit that won't fit behind a frac panel. See attached for an example - clearance on this is tight but it WILL fit in a frac rack:
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Or this - DJ TW LPG
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Or this - just ordered a variant on it - Oakley Synthesizers' "Superladder" this one not tried out yet!
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exciting! can't wait to see that 4023.synthcube wrote:Seth nemec (ban analogue) did a nice Analog Metropolis 4075 clone in Frac, I think both full and a 'light' version. We are also working on a line of clone filters in frac and frac banana formats starting with the Analog Metropolis 4023 , in hopes of expanding frac filter options.

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I'm not sure if you are looking for filthy the Boogie would suit you anyway - I find it very refined.
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This is SO NOT READY for prime time, because we are formally launching later in December along with the new website--- but here is a (very rough) photo of the 15V format AM4023 LPF . We are doing kits, assembled modules, PCBs, individual panels & parts for 1U&2U Frac and Frac Banana, a Buchla-esque one, 1U and 2U MOTM and a 2U dotcom (with dotcom panels by re:synthesis)
The MOTM 1U is done and tested; other mockups to be tested in the next couple of weeks.
Rob Keeble retains the rights to all his Euro versions of these modules. We have licensed the full range of his circuits for 15V formats.
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after the AM4023 is 15V versions of the AM2140 ResFilter (SSM2220 and SSM2020 based) and the AM3320 VCF (CEM3320 based)
The MOTM 1U is done and tested; other mockups to be tested in the next couple of weeks.
Rob Keeble retains the rights to all his Euro versions of these modules. We have licensed the full range of his circuits for 15V formats.
Next

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woah!!! new banana frac! the modular gods have smiled upon us.synthcube wrote:This is SO NOT READY for prime time, because we are formally launching later in December along with the new website--- but here is a (very rough) photo of the 15V format AM4023 LPF . We are doing kits, assembled modules, PCBs, individual panels & parts for 1U&2U Frac and Frac Banana, a Buchla-esque one, 1U and 2U MOTM and a 2U dotcom (with dotcom panels by re:synthesis)
The MOTM 1U is done and tested; other mockups to be tested in the next couple of weeks.
Rob Keeble retains the rights to all his Euro versions of these modules. We have licensed the full range of his circuits for 15V formats.
Nextafter the AM4023 is 15V versions of the AM2140 ResFilter (SSM2220 and SSM2020 based) and the AM3320 VCF (CEM3320 based)
please tell me this module will be shallow...


ps- the knobs on the jack frac panels are personally not to my taste. i'll take blacet style rubber or davies any day.
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define 'shallow'
feedback noted about the knobs... still looking at options... original blacet style hard/impossible to come by but maybe davies

feedback noted about the knobs... still looking at options... original blacet style hard/impossible to come by but maybe davies
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davies are good.synthcube wrote:define 'shallow'![]()
feedback noted about the knobs... still looking at options... original blacet style hard/impossible to come by but maybe davies
shallow would be enough to fit in a bugbrand rack... those are like 3 inches.
really shallow would fit in a bugbrand shallow case... which i believe is closer to 1 inch.
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