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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by BrokenBo » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:50 am

study for self generating usta rhythm. lots of complex oscillator into amp & tone and fumana. sequence selctor switching stuff up. not a complete track but maybe still something worth sharing.


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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by trickness » Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:12 am

Paul_N wrote:
Wed Mar 11, 2020 8:29 pm
Using the pressure output from the mini horse to control the low pass filter is a lot of fun.


Are you using a quantizer in this patch by any chance?

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by zerodivide » Sun Mar 29, 2020 6:31 pm

BrokenBo wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:50 am
study for self generating usta rhythm. lots of complex oscillator into amp & tone and fumana. sequence selctor switching stuff up. not a complete track but maybe still something worth sharing.

crazy! mind sharing some patch notes?

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Paul_N » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:55 am

trickness wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:12 am

Are you using a quantizer in this patch by any chance?
I’m not - from what I recall, I had the a saw coming out of the HO into the dual pole filter. Gate output from the mini-horse was pinging a few of the harmonics as I hit the keys. The two outputs from the VMS were sent into the CVP which was mixed with pressure/position from the mini-horse and then routed back into the CV controls on the LPF.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Paul_N » Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:57 am

BrokenBo wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:50 am
study for self generating usta rhythm. lots of complex oscillator into amp & tone and fumana. sequence selctor switching stuff up. not a complete track but maybe still something worth sharing.
How do you like the USTA w/Verbos gear? I’ve been watching that module from afar and have been tempted to pick one up.

-Paul

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by BrokenBo » Mon Mar 30, 2020 12:28 pm

Paul_N wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:57 am
BrokenBo wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:50 am
study for self generating usta rhythm. lots of complex oscillator into amp & tone and fumana. sequence selctor switching stuff up. not a complete track but maybe still something worth sharing.
How do you like the USTA w/Verbos gear? I’ve been watching that module from afar and have been tempted to pick one up.

-Paul
i like it as it is very powerful (8x gate, 8x quant./ unquant. cv) but not that complicated to operate like other digital sequencers..some really nice balance between complexity and usability. built quality is top notch like all frap tools modules.

obviously it is not as immediate as the VMS but it has some very nice features which i do not want to miss anymore.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by zerodivide » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:40 pm

so has anybody had the chance to A/B the new oscillator and Amp&Tone with the old ones, in person?

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by trickness » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:26 pm

Paul_N wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 7:55 am
trickness wrote:
Sun Mar 29, 2020 9:12 am

Are you using a quantizer in this patch by any chance?
I’m not - from what I recall, I had the a saw coming out of the HO into the dual pole filter. Gate output from the mini-horse was pinging a few of the harmonics as I hit the keys. The two outputs from the VMS were sent into the CVP which was mixed with pressure/position from the mini-horse and then routed back into the CV controls on the LPF.

-Paul
I'm surprised - the pitch isn't wonky at all. Did you attenuate the pitch CV at all before going into the HO? Sounds great

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Hansi026 » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:43 am

zerodivide wrote:
Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:40 pm
so has anybody had the chance to A/B the new oscillator and Amp&Tone with the old ones, in person?
ATC vs AT : FB Verbos user group ;-)

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by zerodivide » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:39 am

based on that video, no FOMO at all. Seems the original Amplitude and Tone sounds way thicker and has way more beef in the bass

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Post by damase » Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:38 am

i dont think the comparison is very well level matched. the old one comes across as louder. the newer one has a more defined high end, which can often make people settle the volume at a lower point (this can be a good thing in a mix).

however you get a good feel for it just like when watching the verbos youtube videos featuring both modules. i can tell that i like the resonance on the original version more probably overall favor its tone as well, but both sound like they have a useful tone

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Paul_N » Thu Apr 02, 2020 5:27 pm

If the video exists off of Facebook, can someone post a link?

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Post by zerodivide » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm

random question: does anybody else perceive the "verbos red" as more orange than red?

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Post by mritenburg » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:08 pm

zerodivide wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
random question: does anybody else perceive the "verbos red" as more orange than red?
Yes, depending on the context and lighting. At the moment I have a harvestman module with orange knobs next to my Verbos modules, so the Verbos looks more red to me.
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Post by luketeaford » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:14 pm

zerodivide wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
random question: does anybody else perceive the "verbos red" as more orange than red?
I just want to go on the record in this 139+ page thread: yes, I do for sure.

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:27 pm

I clearly see them red ahah.

On another note I've been trying to fall in love with the Dual Four Pole and I think I'm getting there. I've loaded some chords I found on freesound into the Morphagene and sent that through it with a LxD behind and I'm really getting some nice, dusty stabs. Throw a delay and some CV on that and I could listen to this morphing for hours. I don't really use chords in my music though. However it also sounds great on super complex sources like the Loquelic or Complex Osc. I think it's a keeper.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by advrsry » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:26 pm

I have both the new and old ATC, and I like both very much. They are quite different. The new one is "faster", more detailed, but still distorts very nicely. The only thing I could do without is that it has a rather high noise floor when fully open. This is usually not that noticeable though and from what I understand it's a side effect of the filter design (ms20 like). 🤷

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by MindMachine » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:05 pm

zerodivide wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
random question: does anybody else perceive the "verbos red" as more orange than red?
Looks red to me.
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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by MindMachine » Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:07 pm

MindMachine wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:05 pm
zerodivide wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:02 pm
random question: does anybody else perceive the "verbos red" as more orange than red?
Looks red to me.
luketeaford wrote:
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I just want to go on the record in this 139+ page thread: yes, I do for sure.
Let the controversy begin...
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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by dros3raq » Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:36 pm

looks red to me.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by vytis » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:13 pm



Based around two sequencers running at different speeds (unsynced) feeding two analog oscillators. These are then summed in an analog filter which is modulated by an unsynced envelope generator. Reverb, pitch shifting delay and a bit of saturation for good measure.

Verbos Electronics Dual Four Pole Filter
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Post by pyjamarama » Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:35 pm

I have a suspicion my HO might be on the fritz. the pitch tends to wobble in almost a quantised manner when I turn the frequency knob before settling down. sounds kind of scratchy almost.. even on the sign output turning the freq manually has a less than smooth sweep. like it's very slightly stepped and unpredictable. anyone had similar experience?

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by zerodivide » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:23 am

advrsry wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:26 pm
I have both the new and old ATC, and I like both very much. They are quite different. The new one is "faster", more detailed, but still distorts very nicely. The only thing I could do without is that it has a rather high noise floor when fully open. This is usually not that noticeable though and from what I understand it's a side effect of the filter design (ms20 like). 🤷
can you pleeeeease make us a shootout demo using the same sound source right through each?

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Post by zerodivide » Sun Apr 05, 2020 12:24 am

MindMachine wrote:
Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:07 pm

Let the controversy begin...
this can be our blue vs gold dress

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Post by x2mirko » Sun Apr 05, 2020 2:38 am

pyjamarama wrote:
Sat Apr 04, 2020 2:35 pm
I have a suspicion my HO might be on the fritz. the pitch tends to wobble in almost a quantised manner when I turn the frequency knob before settling down. sounds kind of scratchy almost.. even on the sign output turning the freq manually has a less than smooth sweep. like it's very slightly stepped and unpredictable. anyone had similar experience?
Sounds like a problem with the potentiometer. Especially if this doesn't happen when you send an LFO into the 1v/o input (i.e. then it just sweeps smoothly). Try just turning the pot a lot for a minute or two. Sometimes that's already enough to get rid of any dust or other stuff that has gotten into the pot. Worst case scenario, you'd have to swap the pot out (which is still a very simple fix).

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