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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by mritenburg » Sat May 02, 2020 10:34 am

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Guys, is this for real or am I not seeing the forest because of all the trees? Just got an complex OSC from Verbos. There are two Kinds of Screws inside the Package. One normal one which screws into my rails nicly but doesn´t fit through the holes on the Module and thinner screws which fit through the holes but won´t screw into the rails of the case? Am I dreaming. Are Verbos Stuff not build by Eurorack Standards? I have no Idea to be honest how to mount the module now.
Which brand of rails/rack do you have?

If you have a Doepfer case (which is arguably the eurorack standard) the screws are the M3 x .5 x 6mm (the .5 means .5mm threads). Your module should include those screws and the should fit even with nylon washers.
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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Kroggel » Sat May 02, 2020 10:44 am

Frap tools sliding Nuts in Diy Case with Rails from Schneiders. It´s not about the length of the screws it´s about their diameter which is M3. But the Case is not the Problem, all other Modules fit well. But the Screw size they are all using is to big for the Holes on the Module so M3 doesn´t seem to fit through the CO Holes. Only way would be to screw them through the Holes and cut through...not good on an 650€ piece of gear to damage it right away.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by mritenburg » Sat May 02, 2020 10:51 am

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Frap tools sliding Nuts in Diy Case with Rails from Schneiders. It´s not about the length of the screws it´s about their diameter which is M3. But the Case is not the Problem, all other Modules fit well. But the Screw size they are all using is to big for the Holes on the Module so M3 doesn´t seem to fit through the CO Holes. Only way would be to screw them through the Holes and cut through...not good on an 650€ piece of gear to damage it right away.
Can you post a photo? M3 should fit with no problem.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Sat May 02, 2020 11:15 am

They definitely fit, if you module is new maybe just screw them in lightly. The paint inside of the holes might make it a tight fit at first.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Kroggel » Sat May 02, 2020 11:35 am

They really don´t fit, even with force. Of course it´s not that much, I could screw them in but I guess it would cut a thread in the Hole.
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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by mritenburg » Sat May 02, 2020 11:41 am

Are you sure that’s an M3 screw?
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Ummm, I guess you would call it techno.


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Post by Kroggel » Sat May 02, 2020 11:50 am

yeah, it came with the module and it screws perfectly into the M3 sliding nuts - without the Module in the way ;-)

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by mritenburg » Sat May 02, 2020 11:52 am

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Sat May 02, 2020 11:50 am
yeah, it came with the module and it screws perfectly into the M3 sliding nuts - without the Module in the way ;-)
Then it’s probably just the paint like Tumulishroomaroom said.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by damase » Sat May 02, 2020 12:08 pm

most of mine, purchased new, have the “hole too small” syndrome. (for m3 screws)
i just screw it in anyway, what else ya gonna do? gently turn and it will meet up with the hole, no big deal

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Kroggel » Sat May 02, 2020 12:16 pm

It´s just anxiety with such expensive stuff...you just expect it to fit proper

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Post by Kroggel » Sat May 02, 2020 12:25 pm

I did it :miley:
thanx for the mental support. I think I am just too careful with stuff.

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Post by valouxxx » Sun May 03, 2020 1:21 pm

The same here, with the delay, but not with the others. As said upper it's because of the paint. I just had to force a little bit, no big deal even if it's first surprising !

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by Paul_N » Tue May 05, 2020 2:17 pm

A few posts back there was some questions on the different versions of the complex oscillator. My original CO was a v2 version I picked up off reverb it had an incredibly smooth sound to it - much to my surprise as everyone said the v2 was problematic. I later acquired a v4 when I picked up a number of modules together as a package. The v4 sounded good, but I always preferred the v2 version until the modulating oscillator on it stopped working one day.

This past February, prior to the global lockdown, I finally had gotten around to upgrading the power supply in my case. A few days after the install, the -12v rail on one of the busses blew out and killed my v4 complex oscillator and verbos Random Source (they still work somewhat, but the CO sounds very diff, and the RS no longer provides random gates).. As the CO was one of my primary oscillators, I ordered another as I wasn’t quite sure when Verbos would be back open and accepting modules to be repaired. And thats how I ended up with a new 2019 CO (and most likely the last CO I ever buy). As mentioned earlier, this version doesn’t have any vactrols.

I’m attaching pics of the backs of all 3.

I can also confirm that I’ve had paint issues w/M3 knurlies on every new verbos module I’ve purchased.
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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by mritenburg » Tue May 05, 2020 4:02 pm

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My original CO was a v2 version I picked up off reverb it had an incredibly smooth sound to it - much to my surprise as everyone said the v2 was problematic.
I own a v2. The v2 was actually the first production version released by Verbos in early 2014. There was never a v1 available for purchase AFAIK. The first few batches of v2 CO’s were produced before Verbos acquired a pick-n-place machine to do their own PCB population & soldering in-house. My v2 CO that I have owned since 2014 has never had a problem. I’d be curious to know if any v2 modules were assembled on the Verbos pick-n-place machine and if those are the v2 modules that are perceived as unreliable? I had read elsewhere that some of the module designs were reworked to make them more suitable for their pick-n-place machine.

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Post by zerodivide » Tue May 05, 2020 4:52 pm

btw how come all the Verbos modules are lumped into one super mega thread unlike all other posts on MF? makes it so hard to dig through stuff with 142 pages now of comments

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by mritenburg » Tue May 05, 2020 4:58 pm

zerodivide wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 4:52 pm
btw how come all the Verbos modules are lumped into one super mega thread unlike all other posts on MF? makes it so hard to dig through stuff with 142 pages now of comments
There are some module specifics threads, but it seems like everyone comes back to this one eventually.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by burgers » Thu May 07, 2020 8:07 am

fav non-verbos modules to pair with your verbos modules?

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Post by Tumulishroomaroom » Thu May 07, 2020 8:24 am

Make Noise LxD is a firm favorite.
I also like to run the CO into XAOC Kamieniec or the recently added RML Electron Fuzz Custom. Lots to bite into/further mangle.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by mritenburg » Thu May 07, 2020 10:24 am

burgers wrote:
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fav non-verbos modules to pair with your verbos modules?
Maths + Optomix + Verbos CO is the essential “west coast voice” in my rig.

Doepfer A-160/161 + Verbos VMS for clock division.

Rossum Control Forge for sequence branching and crazy probability stuff.
Disappointment with any module is usually a failure of imagination.

Ummm, I guess you would call it techno.


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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by valouxxx » Thu May 07, 2020 1:37 pm

Pairing the Harmonic Osc and the Mimeophon sounds gorgeous. Also DPO In the Amp Tone. Agressive to smooth sounds 😁

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by youkon » Thu May 07, 2020 2:31 pm

I can recommend Dynamix for vca duties and Shakmat Timewizard for clocks and resets

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by burgers » Fri May 08, 2020 6:28 pm

mritenburg wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 10:24 am
burgers wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 8:07 am
fav non-verbos modules to pair with your verbos modules?
Maths + Optomix + Verbos CO is the essential “west coast voice” in my rig.
just got the opotmix....cant wait to jam with it!!!

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by burgers » Fri May 08, 2020 6:28 pm

valouxxx wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 1:37 pm
Pairing the Harmonic Osc and the Mimeophon sounds gorgeous. Also DPO In the Amp Tone. Agressive to smooth sounds 😁
been doin that and i love it too

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by yellowecho » Fri May 08, 2020 9:14 pm

burgers wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 8:07 am
fav non-verbos modules to pair with your verbos modules?
PNW and/or Zularic Repetitor :sb:
I've been having a blast with the Zularic sending gates to the Multi-Envelope, ATC, and VMS. Quick way of getting grooves and ideas flowing.

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Re: VERBOS ELECTRONICS

Post by zerodivide » Sat May 09, 2020 12:36 am

happy to see so much new activity with the Verbos stuff. We should start sharing more patch ideas guys. Especially with the Complex Osc :)

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