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- bodydouble
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Speaking of v/oct, has anyone ever talked about writing a version that quantizes the pitch of the output? Now that I'm thinking about it, would that be possible?
Using a uBurst, I find it pretty tricky to dial in octaves, 5ths, etc and I often wish it would be easier...On a related note, I always feel like the max setting (2 octaves up) sounds pretty dodgy and wish it peaked at 1 octave up.
Using a uBurst, I find it pretty tricky to dial in octaves, 5ths, etc and I often wish it would be easier...On a related note, I always feel like the max setting (2 octaves up) sounds pretty dodgy and wish it peaked at 1 octave up.
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Hi,
so I have got everything I need to build a clouds and a plaits, but I don't know right which programmer suits the best to for plaits(swd) and clouds(jtag) ... a discovery board? And what about the programming process, i am on Mac and I am wondering if I can upload the firmware, which I already build in the dev environment with the discovery board or do I need a seperate program to go with? I am a bit confused and I don't want to risk, bricking the modules ..
thanks in advance
so I have got everything I need to build a clouds and a plaits, but I don't know right which programmer suits the best to for plaits(swd) and clouds(jtag) ... a discovery board? And what about the programming process, i am on Mac and I am wondering if I can upload the firmware, which I already build in the dev environment with the discovery board or do I need a seperate program to go with? I am a bit confused and I don't want to risk, bricking the modules ..
thanks in advance

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I haven't owned a factory clouds, so I can't speak to a direct comparison, but a DIY version that I purchased (with Parasites) at a reasonable price, from a competent and helpful builder via Reverb (After Later Audio), functions well, as expected. The only issue is a mild tactile one - the input gain knob feels a bit more wobbly than the others. That said, the pot for that control is a different component than the rest, with a plastic shaft that isn't secured to the front panel (see image), so perhaps this difference is also present on factory-issued models. Not a gripe, just a minor point. I'm sure those with a factory models can weigh in on this point as well. Sound-wise it does what the youtubes suggest clouds can (should?) do.linjirinzai wrote:is the general consensus that getting a DIY clouds off of ebay (so long as the seller has good feedback) is a safe bet/funcational alternative to the original?

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The gain control requires a stereo pot.
MOQ for a part with a similar feel than the other pots was 2000 pcs. Seemed too high... So the first 500 unit used a plastic pot, like on this photo. When I saw that the demand did not decrease, I took the plunge and ordered the better part. It's still quite fiddly (I must have replaced 50 of them already...)
MOQ for a part with a similar feel than the other pots was 2000 pcs. Seemed too high... So the first 500 unit used a plastic pot, like on this photo. When I saw that the demand did not decrease, I took the plunge and ordered the better part. It's still quite fiddly (I must have replaced 50 of them already...)
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Emilie posted a wav file that did this on the mutable forum a while back, i vaguely remember saving it, but i didn't upload it to clouds. you may have luck finding it if you search there.bodydouble wrote:Speaking of v/oct, has anyone ever talked about writing a version that quantizes the pitch of the output? Now that I'm thinking about it, would that be possible?
Using a uBurst, I find it pretty tricky to dial in octaves, 5ths, etc and I often wish it would be easier...On a related note, I always feel like the max setting (2 octaves up) sounds pretty dodgy and wish it peaked at 1 octave up.
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Issue with feedback parameter
Hello, everyone:
Please excuse the extreme necro-bump, I was late to the Clouds table.
I have not posted to the MW forum very much, but I am having an issue with a clouds module that I built (I have built two before, with no problems), that I am unable to resolve on my own.
I am getting absolutely no response from the blend knob when the parameter is set to Feedback. Like, nothing whatsoever.
Any guidance or prodding would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
Please excuse the extreme necro-bump, I was late to the Clouds table.
I have not posted to the MW forum very much, but I am having an issue with a clouds module that I built (I have built two before, with no problems), that I am unable to resolve on my own.
I am getting absolutely no response from the blend knob when the parameter is set to Feedback. Like, nothing whatsoever.
Any guidance or prodding would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
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It moves the reverb in the signal chain so that it affects the dry signal as well. I think.Granular wrote:Quick Parasites Question
I've heard that the Parasites Software does some changes to the Original Firmware when I switch to it.
But what are theses changes?

It's documented on the Parasite web page anyway.
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Re: Issue with feedback parameter
Post this in the DIY Forum, there is a "unsuccessful mutable DIY builds" thread that will be better suited to this question.madtextureenvy wrote:Hello, everyone:
Please excuse the extreme necro-bump, I was late to the Clouds table.
I have not posted to the MW forum very much, but I am having an issue with a clouds module that I built (I have built two before, with no problems), that I am unable to resolve on my own.
I am getting absolutely no response from the blend knob when the parameter is set to Feedback. Like, nothing whatsoever.
Any guidance or prodding would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
This is correct, which makes it very useful when it’s not granulating.cptnal wrote:It moves the reverb in the signal chain so that it affects the dry signal as well. I think.Granular wrote:Quick Parasites Question
I've heard that the Parasites Software does some changes to the Original Firmware when I switch to it.
But what are theses changes?![]()
It's documented on the Parasite web page anyway.
Full disclosure: I haven't had my coffee yet.
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How many other modules are as timeless and essential as Clouds? I can possibly only think of Maths... any others?
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I’ve just sold my Maths to buy a second hand Clouds, as I wasn’t really using Maths to its full potential. So far, Clouds has blown me away and I haven’t even started modulating it or tried Parasites yetOHEXOH wrote:How many other modules are as timeless and essential as Clouds? I can possibly only think of Maths... any others?
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The "Natural Gate" is definitly one in my book.OHEXOH wrote:How many other modules are as timeless and essential as Clouds? I can possibly only think of Maths... any others?
anything else i could list might be just halfways........
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Yeah, Clouds is definitely timeless. I'm not sure I agree with essential, but it is always amazing, fun, and surprising. Btw, here's a couple Top 100 lists, one by ratings ("Top") and the other by how many are in racks ("Popular"). Note the top two in the Popular list are Maths and Clouds.OHEXOH wrote:How many other modules are as timeless and essential as Clouds? I can possibly only think of Maths... any others?
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i did not like clouds when i watched the video, felt it lacked punch. however, i just purchased one and wiggling the thing, naively, is a tonne of fun.
i have two questions
does anyone run their entire -- noise -- whatever that means -- mix through the clouds? what do you think of it in those terms, is it bit too obvious, etc,?
https://soundcloud.com/noise_tests/clouds-test
i ran one channel through some DM distortions here, also... have no problem with signature sounds.
who uses clouds with a bit crusher: before / after?
i have two questions
does anyone run their entire -- noise -- whatever that means -- mix through the clouds? what do you think of it in those terms, is it bit too obvious, etc,?
https://soundcloud.com/noise_tests/clouds-test
i ran one channel through some DM distortions here, also... have no problem with signature sounds.
who uses clouds with a bit crusher: before / after?
i'm out, go circle someone else's corpse.
right now I only use clouds with a thunder patch input from the mother 32. I was having trouble getting the crack before the low rumble. By running the patch audio through clouds and modulating the v/Oct input, that crack sound is now present.vqlk wrote:
i have two questions
does anyone run their entire -- noise -- whatever that means -- mix through the clouds? what do you think of it in those terms, is it bit too obvious, etc,?
While that thunder is droning from either a m32 sequencer pattern or from the midi triggered note I'm playing, I play other synths and or guitar over that and not through clouds.
interesting / nice to read, thanks.Funch wrote:right now I only use clouds with a thunder patch input from the mother 32. I was having trouble getting the crack before the low rumble. By running the patch audio through clouds and modulating the v/Oct input, that crack sound is now present.vqlk wrote:
i have two questions
does anyone run their entire -- noise -- whatever that means -- mix through the clouds? what do you think of it in those terms, is it bit too obvious, etc,?
While that thunder is droning from either a m32 sequencer pattern or from the midi triggered note I'm playing, I play other synths and or guitar over that and not through clouds.
i would be looking NOT to play anything over the clouds, if that makes sense, whatever else is used on-top.
i'm out, go circle someone else's corpse.
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That's what I do, if only to add a bit of reverb. I'm using Monsoon rather than Clouds but it's the same thing really.vqlk wrote: does anyone run their entire -- noise -- whatever that means -- mix through the clouds? what do you think of it in those terms, is it bit too obvious, etc,?
Too obvious? I don't know, I'm still a noob. I find it fun, which is why I got in to this in the first place

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I'm very late to the party but this is a great patchnectarios wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:52 amYes, its an iteration of this patch.Raven_Martin wrote:Yeah that's real nice! Are you using the multi filter as a sine osc, then into clouds?nectarios wrote:Yes, this is the Toppobillo Multifilter the source, going into Clouds where extra notes are generated and very gently, mixed in and out.Raven_Martin wrote:Might not work for everything but it's absolutely belter for techno and the like.
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Thank you!tigersi wrote: ↑Sat May 16, 2020 2:13 pmI'm very late to the party but this is a great patchnectarios wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 6:52 amYes, its an iteration of this patch.Raven_Martin wrote:Yeah that's real nice! Are you using the multi filter as a sine osc, then into clouds?nectarios wrote:Yes, this is the Toppobillo Multifilter the source, going into Clouds where extra notes are generated and very gently, mixed in and out.Raven_Martin wrote:Might not work for everything but it's absolutely belter for techno and the like.
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