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*******how to use the search function*********

Post by ignatius » Sun Apr 26, 2015 10:35 pm

step 1 -

read this!

viewtopic.php?t=132482&highlight=

step 2 - be loved forever

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Muff Wiggler wrote::hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: :hail:

I don't even have words to describe how MASSIVE this is.

A chorus of praise (seriously now, he has done so much work for us) to analogdigital who wasn't simply content to help save all the missing posts, nor was he ready to relax after singlehandedly restoring the 'interim' posts, no....... and fuck no, he still wasn't finished after he added shortened youtube syntax to our video embeds......

No no no. Chris saw enough of the forum guts through all of this that he ended up (rightfully) disgusted with how the forum handles search and he built and implemented a completely new search engine for the site. Ripped the old one out and wired the new one in its place. This is massive surgery reconfiguring huge chunks of the forum's code to do things vastly different from the way it was originally designed.

We are enjoying many many benefits as a result. The site is under significantly less load now and performance will be significantly better in all operations, but will be most noticeable in speed when submitting a new post (and vastly, vastly less chance of double posts), and when searching.

In fact, double-posts should be a thing of the past completely now. I've also been able to lower the "forced wait" between searches to 1 second, so you won't see that stupid message about "you cannot make a new search so soon after your last search blah blah blah".

(Also if you have had "missing" threads since the hack and they are from the interim period, there are probably actually here, but haven't been in the search index. That has now been resolved - we've done a full re-index and you should be able to find ANY post now, so please look for your lost posts again using the search tool.)

But anyway, none of that is even close to the best part, the best part is what you can do with the search itself.

For one, the engine is providing results based on RELEVANCE, not thread or date. That's a massive change and you'll see a huge difference in accuracy.

Even better, there are many new operators supported, as well as changes to the existing ones. Here's an explanation of how they work....

These are the search operators:

& ("AND": the default 'assumed' operator)
| ("OR")
- ("NOT")
! ("NOT")
* (wildcard)
" " (exact match)

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Examples:
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Search: Korg Odyssey
May also be entered as: Korg &Odyssey
May also be entered as: Korg & Odyssey

This is the "and" operator and will return posts with the both the words "Korg" and "Odyssey" anywhere in the post ('&' is the 'assumed' operator when no operator has been entered)

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Search: Korg | Odyssey
May also be entered as: Korg |Odyssey

This is the "or" operator and will return posts with EITHER the words "Korg" or "Odyssey" in the post - much more results for this than the the previous example.

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Search: Korg ! Odyssey
May also be entered as: Korg !Odyssey
May also be entered as: Korg -Odyssey
May also be entered as: Korg - Odyssey

This is the "not" operator and will return posts with the word "Korg" in the text but only when the word "Odyssey" is NOT in the same post text.

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As before quotes can be used to specify an exact match.

For example placing "Korg Odyssey" within quotes in the search box will return posts with the text:
I'm happy about the Korg Odyssey!
......but will NOT return posts with the text:
What is Korg doing with the Odyssey?
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Also as before the asterisk character ("*") is available as a wildcard for partial matches.

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Finally please note the new search engine is not quite real time. It re-indexes new posts every five minutes, posts newer than this aren't searchable until the next re-index. I suspect no-one will mind!

Thanks, have fun, please thank Chris or buy him a beer if you live in LA. That dude rocks so hard. I hope you all enjoy the new search tools! We've worked hard and are really proud and excited to bring them to you.

Let me know if you encounter any problems - we've tested it pretty hard but there may be a small adjustment needed here or there. Thanks!

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tl:dr completely new search technology here now. Relevance based results. Better performance. Thank analogdigital for enormous effort. Here are the search operators:

& ("AND": the default 'assumed' operator)
| ("OR")
- ("NOT")
! ("NOT")
* (wildcard)
" " (exact match)
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Post by edgek8d » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:20 pm

LOL.....well done.

Its really pretty good once you get how to use it. These shortcuts are nice to know, I didn't know them.....until now.

Only thing, I wish you could save certain search settings. Like "eurorack modules" or alway be on "topic titles", and "descending/time".

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Post by listentoaheartbeat » Mon Apr 27, 2015 1:39 pm

Nice, best sticky ever. :tu:

Maybe add some info about "Search topic title only", I still find it incredibly useful.

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Post by ldavis123 » Tue Jun 09, 2015 12:10 am

haha

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Post by ignatius » Thu Aug 13, 2015 9:42 pm

please.

please.

please.

just try the search function. you'll like it. it's easy. it's fun.

it will deliver you answers quicker than you can ask a forum of thousands. :hug: :loves:

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Post by A UserName » Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:52 am

Thought I'd mention this also if people do not know, but using Google to search via the "site:muffwiggler.com x" function is very effective. It gives you the relevant text results in context under the link (which is the thread title). Sometimes the embedded search returns results in threads where the title has nothing to do with the search terms, so it is useful to be able to see an excerpt of text from the thread containing the matches when conducting a search.

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Post by lklk » Tue Feb 02, 2016 4:19 am

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Post by mdoudoroff » Mon Feb 08, 2016 8:10 am

So, once you get your search results, what do you click on to go to the exact posting? I find all sorts of links to the beginning of a thread, but that’s not very useful if you’re looking for a post buried in a multi-page thread.

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Post by ignatius » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:00 pm

just a reminder.. please try the search function.

i know everyone in the eurorack forum thinks they have a unique question not yet asked but c'mon... at least try first the search function before you ask...

even just searching "topic title only" for one or two words to lead you in the right direction usually returns some good search results.

please consider adding to an existing thread on a particular module before starting a new one.

if there's a 30 page thread that doesn't answer your specific question try asking your question in that thread since it probably has a lot of people participating in it or following it and you're likely to get an answer quickly.

thank you.

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Post by ignatius » Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:01 pm

mdoudoroff wrote:So, once you get your search results, what do you click on to go to the exact posting? I find all sorts of links to the beginning of a thread, but that’s not very useful if you’re looking for a post buried in a multi-page thread.
i don't know.. but sometimes i'll get the search results.. browse the multi page thread and "search topic" to narrow the results.

or if it's not too huge of a thread i'll click the "all" option and have the entire thread on one page so i can scroll through it quickly.

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Post by analogdigital » Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:00 pm

ignatius wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:So, once you get your search results, what do you click on to go to the exact posting? I find all sorts of links to the beginning of a thread, but that’s not very useful if you’re looking for a post buried in a multi-page thread.
i don't know.. but sometimes i'll get the search results.. browse the multi page thread and "search topic" to narrow the results.

or if it's not too huge of a thread i'll click the "all" option and have the entire thread on one page so i can scroll through it quickly.
Display results as: Posts

That'll get you to the exact post.

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Post by ignatius » Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:19 pm

analogdigital wrote:
ignatius wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:So, once you get your search results, what do you click on to go to the exact posting? I find all sorts of links to the beginning of a thread, but that’s not very useful if you’re looking for a post buried in a multi-page thread.
i don't know.. but sometimes i'll get the search results.. browse the multi page thread and "search topic" to narrow the results.

or if it's not too huge of a thread i'll click the "all" option and have the entire thread on one page so i can scroll through it quickly.
Display results as: Posts

That'll get you to the exact post.
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Post by Matos » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:17 am

This should be a quiz to sign up on muffs. Like read this sticky and then answer multiple choice questions about search, selling requirements, and political posts. If you get them all right you may enter. :deadbanana:

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Post by ignatius » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:35 am

Matos wrote:This should be a quiz to sign up on muffs. Like read this sticky and then answer multiple choice questions about search, selling requirements, and political posts. If you get them all right you may enter. :deadbanana:
haha... i'd be ok w/that. consider it a super long captcha

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Post by analogdigital » Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:46 am

A quiz based on all of the search operands would be quite funny ;)

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Post by thrills » Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:08 am

thank you :hihi:

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Post by kirklandish » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:17 am

I've successfully used the search function many times, but for some reason it isn't working for me today. I've tried multiple ways (all available, general gear, title only, etc.) of searching for "octatrack" and keep coming up with "no topics or posts met your search criteria." I know there are posts with Octatrack in the title and/or body and I've tried other terms as a test (like Moog).

Anyone else having problems today? It's driving me nuts. :bang:

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Post by mdoudoroff » Sat Apr 23, 2016 11:21 am

kirklandish wrote:I've successfully used the search function many times, but for some reason it isn't working for me today. I've tried multiple ways (all available, general gear, title only, etc.) of searching for "octatrack" and keep coming up with "no topics or posts met your search criteria." I know there are posts with Octatrack in the title and/or body and I've tried other terms as a test (like Moog).

Anyone else having problems today? It's driving me nuts. :bang:
I’ve pretty much given up on the search feature and now just use google, with the site:muffwiggler.com parameter. E.g.:

octotrack moog site:muffwiggler.com

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Post by dlabtot » Sat Apr 23, 2016 1:41 pm

It's broken. It used to work, but now, every search returns no results.

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Post by ignatius » Sat Apr 23, 2016 2:13 pm

yes everyone hopefully realizes it's broken now.

viewtopic.php?t=160092&highlight=

bummer. hopefully it gets sorted out soonish. in the mean time let's keep our fingers crossed.

edit: search function fixed long ago :tu:
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This is all so very useful

Post by boe_dye » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:15 am

Thank you for the information!

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Fri Aug 26, 2016 8:33 am

its working fine?

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Post by ignatius » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:16 pm

Muff Wiggler wrote:its working fine?
isnt it? fixed long time ago now right?

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Fri Aug 26, 2016 11:36 pm

:tu:

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Post by twistyknobs » Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:42 pm

this was super helpful to a noob, thanks! :hail:

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